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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 00:25 The Macho Man wrote: Right, so are you willing to vote for Grush based on prome meta read?because we want town in those positions not mafia. We figure out who town is vote them thats why town reads are useful right now. And pls comment on what I said regarding Vivax | ||
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MilkSuckler
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I have to say... now that I know mr. super duper pro-town is hard defending prome, I am even more concerned.... | ||
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MilkSuckler
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Well now that I know you are != n00b .. I expect more rational that what has been presented from you. Im not a heretic on prome; I identified behaviour I think is consistent with a scum mentality. Everything you have declared as reasons for prome to be town are weak at best and defending a scumbuddy at worst. e.g. Scum can easily say Grush is town; as much as prome can due to starsenses... the point is m00t and thus NOT alignment indicative. yet you advocate it is..... This in conjunction with not being a n00b, is far from perfect play.... | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 01:16 Vivax wrote: It's obvious milkman is yamato. Actually not sure if I want to lynch him. His head over heels blind frothing aggressiveness would mean he's likely town. But his points are so stupid and his behaviour so anti-town that I really feel like. Cant be He hasnt shared a list of Day1 reads on every player. Guess I am scum now for disagreeing with you? | ||
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MilkSuckler
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You guys have stuck up for prome. Obviously he won't be here to mount a defense. I have not been swayed by any of the light comments you three have made that indicate his mentality is *not* scum mentality. As it stands: I am voting a mayor who will lynch prome. ================= If you truly believe he is town; are you willing to provide a more reasoned defense on his behalf? i.e. more than light comments | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 01:31 Vivax wrote: What I meant there is that a scum prom would try to associate himself to me as much as he can instead of acting flexible with his read in front of VE. Ohh you mean like this? On February 26 2013 09:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Prom that's closer to what I'm looking for. Why do you prefer to lynch WoS over Vivax? On February 26 2013 10:07 Promethelax wrote: Because I don't care to lynch Vivax. I know I'm the only guy on the forum who thinks this but Vivax is a good player and useful to town when town. Also, as Marv showed in fruity, he is catchable as scum on meta alone. Tl:dr I have a scum read on WoS and not on Vivax. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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Y.. Vivax, enlighten me with your espresso like enthusiasm. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote: Why do you want us to write a defence for the guy you want to lynch? Because I am trying to ascertain if I am missing something. I wrote a pretty good case detailing the scum mentality in his play. You three have simply refuted prome being scum with light comments, that in my opinion are not even town tells. ========= This reminds me of a situation in Nomination Mafia with JX being lynch bait. Town was sold on him as scum; and it was scum who came in and gave soft-defenses on JX with no committment ========= If you are scum, you know prome alignment you are either giving an easy soft-defense on a confirmed townie.. OR defending a scum buddy. If you are town, I can understand giving a light comment; however, again, considering prome is not here for a defense - I am asking this to be upgraded to a heavy comment. I think the request is reasonable. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 01:51 Vivax wrote: You could try to convince me Prom is scum and debunking my mentioned point instead of asking me to write a defence. Not ask others to defend someone most seem to believe to be scum. Let's assume you and Prom are scum together, then you're currently trying to manipulate people into incriminating themselves. LOl.. now I know why BH responded to aquanim by pasting the link to his case. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=37#726 I still think it is a solid behavioral analysis from the information we have.. I have yet to see this debunked by you, JJ or iamp. Do you take issue with any of the points? | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 02:05 Vivax wrote: I think the points I mentioned for Prom being scum are more reliable than the ones you use, subjectively. ? On February 27 2013 00:27 Vivax wrote: I am null on Prom given how he's been handling his reads of me. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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due to a null outcome.. the second instance would be mocking my case. Noted it is the first instance. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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Thats indeed funny, and an astute observation from layabout. I am gonna let you in on a secret VE; just 'cos I said i thought u was town before; doesn't give you permission to be all useless and stuff. Why do you think Dr.H had to step up for mayor after all.... ======= You filter dived me; and the best you could come up with was one question regarding a comment to Geript. Now I am a top 3 scum read lol... all you say is you keep watching; but then where is the actual probing? You focus on the minutiae - i.e. cherry pick to satisfy your confirmation bias. You say I was trying to take credit for Prome.. it doesnt matter who said someone was scum first. its about who manages to campaign successfully for traction (which appears to be Wade). I brought new points to the prome discussion; with content you yourself agreed with and chose not to dispute. ======= I said it before to you to man up and call me scum. You have done that: now back it up with more than association flip reasoning. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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its 6.50am i am @ work I dont feel a need to defend myself.. i feel a need to say your reasoning is weak and confirmation biased | ||
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MilkSuckler
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My main problem with your read on me: is that prior you self-proclaimed you were an expert on reading thread status quo. If so, it should be pretty obvious (with hindsight) that Wade and myself were two alphas duking it out. Nothing more, nothing less. Im not particularly sure what you can't get over; but my concerns with Wades play have been completely transparent. if you filter dived me as you said you did; that should be obvious. And if you read his first post, you would realise where it all originated from. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 26 2013 22:50 MilkSuckler wrote: @Geript I have some serious problems with this post. Aquanim and you had some foreplay, but my issue was not directly tackled. You do your dance and explain your three tones. Blah blah. Then the colossal disappointment of a conclusion. I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case. Wtf is this meant to mean.... You have two top scum reads.. but until you see a flip you can not make a strong case. Explain in gratuitous detail NOW! From http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=43#859 | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 07:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Confirmation bias you say. What's funny about that is the fact that I had a solid green townread on you until your little freakout on WF last night. It wasn't until I dissected it and ended up filtering you that the scum read came about. And since then, I haven't looked at you at all - I'm simply not interested in lynching you today, so I saw no need...yet you say I'm "confimation biased". Cherry-picking. All I've done is tell another player to go filter one of your town games (or what I'm presuming is one of your town games  ). Yet, somehow, that seems to make you think that I'm stuck in my read on you...to the point of not only fabricating reasons to think you're suspicious, but verily selectively choosing specific posts that "confirm" my read on you...when I've done nothing of the sort.It just looks bad. Keep trying to discredit me though, it didn't work for Toad but maybe it will for you...you're slightly more verbose and coherent than Toad anyway.  No I didnt say the read was stuck. I said I think the reasoning behind the read is severely flawed, and I am going about querying it because YOU put it on the table to share in public. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 07:59 geript wrote: I think if I get a scum flip on WoS I can make a strong association case on Vivax. Really.... thats the epitome of the good play you promised post NMM37? (according to your filter) | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 27 2013 08:01 VisceraEyes wrote: That's what "confirmation biased" means jerk. I surmise this is directed to me. | ||
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MilkSuckler
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On February 26 2013 12:25 MilkSuckler wrote: hhhmmm, I must say the "read" - if you can call it that - on Wade Fell was weak at best and scummily deprived of stance at worst. And serves as stark contrast to the pardoner request post. I noticed in NMM37 some players were writing posts for the lurkers to contribute with; so could be a valid tactic going forward here. @Geript Can you please identify which components of his post read forced and scripted to you. Do you still feel that way now WoS has increased his post count? + the question in the quotes pls | ||
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