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Adam4167
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You do not have a say in the matter of when I do or do not initiate duels | ||
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On February 28 2013 11:57 iamperfection wrote: Guys Guys Guys I have a sick case for hapa He said he would be back in an hour and then he didn't You know what this means well do you? It means he does not care about town. hapa can die. He can be a leader and he isnt he could name the whole scum team as town by now he isnt hapa is Mafia Push legitimate cases. Then Ill agree with your duel choices. | ||
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Adam4167
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How the hell is not being here 24/7 mafia motivated? its calling having a life outside this forum. | ||
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Adam4167
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Until I give you a reason to think i'm not gunning for scum anymore, you have nothing to worry about. This fascination with the double lynch is just, frankly, lazy. Its going to lead to an entire cycle of people sitting around doing absolutely nothing. | ||
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On March 01 2013 07:02 yamato77 wrote: Lol, what a weird fucking reaction to an NK. Not really. I went to bed last night expecting that either iamp or myself weren't going to be here in the morning. | ||
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I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined. | ||
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On March 01 2013 07:20 Acrofales wrote: If you want to catch the scumteam all at once, what is it according to you? This is about my 16th or so game, so still more than keirathi, according to his profile. Regardless.. Deino needs to flip. That will give me a very good indication as to yourself, considering how you were defending him on D1. Deino flips scum, the remaining scum will probably be yourself and one of Zare/Yamato - as per my reads post. | ||
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I don't like your interactions with deino. I don't like his flip-flop on Keirathi. Him attacking you hours before a daypost that some expect you to die in could be a convenient ploy. | ||
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Nope. Did you read my list? | ||
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You've since dumpstered his initial post, for exactly the same reasons that I did on day 1, yet after your first read on day 1, he was 'top 4 town' and now hes scum for the same post. | ||
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On March 01 2013 07:40 cDgCorazon wrote: So as long as he doesn't do anything "bad", you're still not going to have a scum read on him? I feel like he cares town. I have higher priority scum reads elsewhere. If hes scum playing for endgame, hes going to have a heck of a time trying to convince anyone to do anything he says when we get there, so we kill him later. | ||
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On March 01 2013 07:53 Acrofales wrote: Two ways of reading that post: scum flailing around or newbie town flailing around. At the time I gave him doubt. If YOU had made that post I would have nailed you to the cross. Or Hapa. However, it was someone who is legitimately a newbie town and I remembered making strange nonsense reads. Two things have changed since then: 1. Newbie town generally gets its shit together with as little pressure as there was on him and starts trying to contribute. Dieno never made that transition. So that leaves the "scum flailing around" explanation. 2. I refreshed my meta read on Dieno and found that while his reads were sometimes nonsensical, he took firm viewpoints and argued for them. Both of these point to a scum Dieno, rather than a town Dieno. Anyway, I caught scum D1. WTF is your problem. 'WTF is my problem?' You think i'm 3rd party, why do you give a shit what my problem is! This is a setup that favors the bus. I bet my life that its 11 v 4, considering scum have only shown a single KP all game and we have no evidence of 3rd party -which means their KP will most probably remain fixed at 1. That is a bus-setup as losing additional members does not impact KP potential, as long as they get one of their members in towns good graces, they can ride it out til end game while people work out the carnage. Go read Arkham City, Radfield identified a bus-friendly setup, and the entire scum team filled the town with so many bogus reads that when it came to endgame, we were completely lost. I consider it likely that you bussed Keirathi due to his poor activity. I think you tried to save Deino D1 because double bussing seemed excessive but his play was so hard to defend that you got caught out. But of course, I cant confirm any of my suspicions until Dieno is dealt with. | ||
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I think you were dealt an AFK team and tried to make something out of it, yes. I could be wrong, you are not my priority right now. Dieno I feel far more strongly about. But these are the thoughts running around in my head, and I have no reason to hide them. | ||
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Think of it from a scum perspective. You're going down today, so your dying act is to drag down one of your teammates.... to what end? Get this game closer to finishing? Nah. To no-ones surprise here, i'm backing my reads in: Dieno scum, Sylencia town. ##Vote: Deinosore | ||
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On March 01 2013 11:32 Acrofales wrote: Before I go to bed, there's one thing that I thought of for the redacting of the scum wincon: there might be two scumteams. Just a theory for now, but it's one of the few reasons I can think of for redacting the wincon. I find it unlikely that there are two scum teams. There's only been 1KP. Having two teams, with one KP between them, is horribly unfair to the team not shooting. | ||
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On March 01 2013 10:32 Acrofales wrote: Both scum should not be ruled out entirely. They were under significant pressure to duel each other and they know that this way they *might* have an opportunity for one of them to clear his name. It's a risk, but they were almost certainly both going to end up on the chopping block anyway (one today, other tomorrow). This way it can maybe work in their favour. Anyway, I'll assess them individually, rather than as an either/or pair. It's not the same situation as Adam/Keir, where Adam could have picked virtually anybody to duel. I'm comfortable ruling out both scum - to expand on what I said earlier: With this towns rampant attitude towards double lynching before the duel began - Acro, Thrawn, Oats, Corazon, the odds of reaching a single majority in this duel seemed pretty unlikely, as we needed 6 to hammer. With both Dieno and Sylencia being first and second on a majority of the towns lynch list, a double lynch looks to be almost a sure thing. Why would you drag your scum teammate into a duel against a kill-happy town that is more than likely just going to kill you both, shredding any form of cred you were hoping to gain and leaving the scum team in an unwinnable position. Assuming we only kill one, the remaining member is still very high on everyones kill-list for the rest of the game. The risk is enormous, the payoff is nothing. Now look at it the other way - them being opposite alignments. Dieno came into today with a bullseye on his head. I made it known that if he wasn't in today's duel, hes a dead man tomorrow, even if I had to die with him via town revenge. So he calls this duel with a bad looking townie that he hopes to take out with him to not die empty handed, assuming the town falls for the double lynch, as looked likely from the start of the day. I don't buy for a second that there's two scum here, and I'm going to save any townie I can, regardless of how useful they're being. | ||
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Assuming you start with the premise that dieno is scum, which I have no issue doing as his filter just smacks of scum. | ||
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Dieno's filter has all the hallmarks of new scum. Being overly friendly, not ruffling feathers, being wishy-washy, overreactions to pressure, zero scum-hunting, backing in a teammate with non-existent logic. While I see little redeeming in Sylencia's filter in the way of progressing the scum hunt, he was willing to butt heads with Cora with his very first post, what new scum does that? His very first post draws attention to himself by starting a shit-fight. In a game with half a dozen well-versed town players, that's NUTS. He also didn't have a problem putting me in my place for being a Cowboy. With super-shark Marv swimming around the tank, I expect the scum, at least the newer scums, were all laying quite low N0 until they could bump him off and go to work. | ||
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I know you want him dead so badly, but strategically for him and dieno to both be scum, they're declaring they're throwing this game and killing off two of their members for zero gain. | ||
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