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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 20 2013 01:44 GMT
#1786
@CC if we can convince Oats and crew. We should be able to win this easily. Open and shut case.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 20 2013 01:52 GMT
#1788
On February 20 2013 10:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Yeah. Seriously if you're scum jay fuck you.

lol you really are paranoid. Dont worry I was paranoid of you too that you bussed your team. But you defense of me made me see the light. Like legit when i play this scummy all the scum pile on top of me for the easy lynch. The few people that defend me cause they know my meta are almost always townies.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 20 2013 08:09 GMT
#1819
On February 20 2013 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok everybody.
Top 2 scum reads.
And quick summary on why they are scum
If you dont do it, its a scum tell.

For me
Jay:
Scum.

He doesnt care who is scum, his sheeping off Palmar to make a horrible case on yamato which doesnt say why he is scum at all. Then he doesnt care to follow up at all.
he seems too proud that his town meta is sheeping people and he is self deprecating.
Djo/Debears
Scum

Djo did the really really bad RNG idea for lynching and thats pretty much ALL his contribution before he replaced.
Debears also seems to not really be involved in the game, like he has no convictions in his reads.



I do care who is scum. Thats is why I wanted to nail VE so bad my number 1 scum read at the time. Sheeping off Palmar is a town trait silly XD. Also I left Yamato lynch after he supplied some good responses and I wanted to consolidate on one lynch. And I thought SlOosh had a good case on VE.

Meh your meta is your meta. I want to improve hell I even said that in the first post in the game, I admit that sometimes I can come of scummy. And my thoughts are hard to track. But this game I must of done something right as I haven't been mislynched yet and we are starting to hone in on the scum.

Also I had a scum read on Djo from day 1. And I also want to lynch debears. Soooo how about we just kill debears together :D
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 20 2013 08:10 GMT
#1820
Also on the topic of lynching scum I think we should kill VE first.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 20 2013 23:56 GMT
#1856
##Vote SLOosh

If we can kill SlOosh then maybe Oats can find out hes town get off him. Also Oats is the only person I think is townie that isn't coop-orating.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 00:03 GMT
#1857
On February 21 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:

jaybrundage has been crying "best mislynch NA" all game, like he does every game these days...except, if that's the case, then why hasn't scum tried to mislynch him yet? Something to consider. He wanted me gone bad on D3, and like everyone, is (somehow) convinced that the D3 lynch was between 2 scum. You need only look around today at the state of town, two mislynches away from losing the game, to see that this CAN NOT have been the case. I think debears is onto something with his case on jaybrundage. I think jay is scum.

.


Lol scum are trying to lynch me silly. The people I have a scum read on. Debears, You, and Phagga are all trying to mislynch me. The bait is op. Im talking teemo levels of global taunt. You guys had no pull on D3 as your third scum member (Djo) was MIA. So you didn't have the pull to help steer the lynch in a different direction.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 03:09 GMT
#1874
On February 21 2013 11:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Is VE just a retard?


lol asking the questions that need to be asked.

CC go look at what SlOosh posted about me. If we agree that the nominees are town. Then we a a pool of five people to lynch from. 3 of those 5 are scum. The four people in that pool all want to lynch me. Could be a crazy bus. But the Occams razor would suggest that its a mislynch as Scum only need one mislynch to win.

On February 21 2013 10:32 slOosh wrote:
You guys really don't see a concerted effort on the part to push this jay lynch through? VE, phagga, debears and Oats all joining hands saying, let's lynch jay, even though we have scum reads on each other?

Whichever one of you is town (I think it's Oats but it could be debears), aren't you worried? If you think the nominees are town, then you got 3/5 scum that aren't nominated. You seriously, seriously should think about what is being said and what is being pushed right now.

Also note that VE is straight up slinging mud on yamato, even though he has on multiple occasions said that he is a strong town read. Also notice how his reads magically change over time despite no discussion or involvement with the thread

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On February 12 2013 15:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I read over Yamato's filter and it's gleaming green. I can't understand what you find scummy about it at all. He's consistently pushing his reads, and he explains his thought process clearly when those reads change. In the last game I played with Yamato he replaced into a prime scum position - a fake miller claim from a respectable town player...and he fucked right off. He did a little pseudo push on me, but he didn't do shit with that claim. If he's scum this game he's done something like the most spectacular turnaround in scum play I've ever seen.

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On February 17 2013 00:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
prplhz
Jaybrundage

? phagga
? Djodref/debears
? Oatsmaster
yamato
slOosh
Cheese


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On February 19 2013 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll write up something more in-depth during the next cycle, but I'm approximately standing at

jaybrundage, phagga, X

Where X = one of yamato/slOosh

I don't want to lynch either of yamato/slOosh though because I had a town read on them until now and I feel like whichever one is scum is going to help me lynch his buddies (thanks slOosh if it's you - you're a bro. )

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On February 19 2013 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually Oats is on my todo Yam...and you/slOosh are by far my weakest read.


Right now VE is just sweeping this aside because by killing yamato he doesn't have to properly address it. As it is I think this is the strongest way to go about lynching VE.

##Unvote: yamato
##Vote: slOosh


Oats I would like your thoughts now that SlOosh has flipped green. He's not scum so his reads are genuine. Do you understand what he is talking about with the scum all agreeing to mislynch me. Also besides me who else is a scum read.

##Vote VE
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 03:12 GMT
#1875
VE why am I scum. Can you give some kind of case. I dont believe i have seen one yet.

Also dont try to play the martry with you getting lynched as Mocsta would say. http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion

Get a case up. You know how I play as town. The fact that your pushing me shows your scum like you did in Hero MM.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 05:16 GMT
#1877
On February 21 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
GG slOosh <3 you :D


##Vote VE

I would like some reasoning. Do you still think im scum. What are your thoughts on the current scum team. Im pretty sure your town. But the more discussion we have the more likley we are to keep solidifying our town reads and scum reads. And not get over confident the game is in the bag. If we are wrong about just one of the members of the scum team we loss the game. So your thoughts on your vote. As well if you still consider me scum.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 06:05 GMT
#1889
@debears I responded to your case. Good job ignoring it. But at this point you should just bus VE. Try to save some face.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 06:09 GMT
#1892
On February 21 2013 15:05 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 15:03 yamato77 wrote:
On February 21 2013 15:01 debears wrote:
Oh, look, Oats and Jay instantly vote VE. They sure want this vote over fast

##Vote Jay

That's a bad attempt at making the VE lynch look bad.

Why do you think VE is town, debears?

Let's talk it out.


1) Namely, a scum (snarfs) pushed him solely from the beginning of day 1 on.
2) My 2 top scumreads are voting him so quickly
3) My 2 top scumreads have no case on him. They are pure sheeping

WOW PREASSOCIATION CASES BEFORE A FLIP. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID TO THINK SNARFS WAS TOWN AND YOU CALLED IT SCUMMY. YOU CONTRADICTING YOUR SELF BRA IT'S SCUMMY.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 07:48 GMT
#1951
Man Debears is really trying his best to get the mislynch lynched.

DEBEARS STOP FUCKING IGNORING ME I RESPONDED TO YOUR CASES YOU HAVEN'T POSTED ANYTHING IN RESPONSE. AS TOWN YOU WOULD TRY TO SEE MY REASONING AND RESPOND IN KIND. BUT INSTEAD YOU IGNORE ME AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIND OUT MY ALIGNMENT YOU SCREAM SCUM.

Also this is blatantly wrong SlOosh was not considered town he was afk most of day 1 and even got warned for not putting a vote in. He was scummy for lurking if anything. VE as town would of been put up in a heartbeat. Also VE doesn't seem to care about this game. He isn't even in here defending himself.

On February 21 2013 16:08 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 16:06 yamato77 wrote:
CC, THINK ABOUT THIS:

If VE is town, why would either of me or you (and Mocsta) be put up as nominations before him?

Palmar and Sloosh, two veteran players, were nominated day 2, yet the third is NOT VE, but one of the newest players, Mocsta. D4, you were put up. D6, me. Is VE really less of a threat as town then either of us? No. He's fucking mafia, and mafia aren't nominating themselves at all.


Palmar is a better town player than VE. Sloosh was considered town (I believe). Mocsta was considered town. VE was not (if i remember correctly)

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 07:55 GMT
#1956
Oh and that reminds me. Debears your little piece about how Snarfs was calling VE scum. Makes it unlikely that both are scum is bullshit.

In Dessert MM me and Xalatos were at each other throats all of day 1 and day 2 even a bit in day 3. You act like scum wont interact with each other. Its called distancing. Because of our early play we made it so that no one ever suspected us as a scum team.

Keep in mind we were hardcore tunneling each other day 1. To give VE a town stamp cause Snarfs called him scum a couple times is bad reasoning.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 07:56 GMT
#1958
On February 21 2013 16:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
I managed to correctly identify prplhz as town early on in the game by similar heuristics,

You dont get to claim that your method of reading people is good because YOU mislynched Prp.

You know my town meta pretty well. Hell you were defending me for a while. Why do you act like your ignorant about it now?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 07:57 GMT
#1960
On February 21 2013 16:55 yamato77 wrote:
Go read the damn games yourself, Oats. I can't possibly hope to encapsulate the broad-strokes analysis of Jay's filters in just a few posts.

Having been in or actively obs'd both those games, I can say with relative certainty that jay is town. If you don't want to read the games and see for yourself, then just trust me on this one, because I know.

All of you may think I'm not a good player but you'll be very glad to know you'll win if you stop thinking I'm so terrible at this game.

Yamato your terrible at this game.








lol
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 07:59 GMT
#1961
On February 21 2013 16:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 16:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
I managed to correctly identify prplhz as town early on in the game by similar heuristics,

You dont get to claim that your method of reading people is good because YOU mislynched Prp.

The mislynch was days later, and it was an oversight mainly.

But it's besides the point, because the point is that both of them are very similar, and that you have to use similar logic to arrive at the conclusion that they are town.

If you're not going to do any meaningful reading or analysis of your own on this matter, Oats, then just sheep me. You'll be glad you did in approximately 42 hours.

Wait a second If anything Oats should sheep me.

I was on the Wagon of Justice long before you were. I where on a lesser Wagon of Justice (of snarfs).

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 08:00 GMT
#1963
EBWODP
On February 21 2013 16:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 16:57 yamato77 wrote:
On February 21 2013 16:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
I managed to correctly identify prplhz as town early on in the game by similar heuristics,

You dont get to claim that your method of reading people is good because YOU mislynched Prp.

The mislynch was days later, and it was an oversight mainly.

But it's besides the point, because the point is that both of them are very similar, and that you have to use similar logic to arrive at the conclusion that they are town.

If you're not going to do any meaningful reading or analysis of your own on this matter, Oats, then just sheep me. You'll be glad you did in approximately 42 hours.

Wait a second If anything Oats should sheep me.

I was on the Wagon of Justice long before you were. *You were* on a lesser Wagon of Justice (of snarfs).


The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#1992
Rofl the defense of VE is lolzy.

Lemme refute that for you. Its called distancing. Here lets look at this. Its me and Xatalos doing the same damn thing day 1.
(But we did it better)

We both tried to lynch each other HARD. We completely focused each other. "Losing 2/3's of the scum's thread presense as debears would say" We only pushed for each others lynch. We would of bussed the other person as well if the opportunity came up.

You make a big thing of them having to plan it. Its not that hard. Also as scum you should go with the flow and comment on things as you see them. If VE sees something Snarfs did that was scummy. Then he should comment on it as scum and do the same thing he would do if he was town. But his hesitantcy shows he didn't do it well. And he easily switched to another townie lynch. While at the same time distancing himself from Snarfs.

Your argument that VE is town cause Snarfs is scum doesn't hold water.

On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.



On January 13 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:
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On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.

Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have.

Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game.

The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads.

Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal?



On January 14 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.

Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have.

Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game.

The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads.

Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal?


I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.

- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)

And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.

##Vote jaybrundage




On January 14 2013 11:34 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.

Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have.

Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game.

The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads.

Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal?


I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.

- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)

And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.

##Vote jaybrundage

I wanted to pressure Kush with my post. I believe i succeeded in that.

Supersoft had just called Zentor scum with no base and just some red txt. I dont find anything wrong with calling him out on it. He hasnt done much this game and I have no qualms with my suspicious of him.

Why do you say I freakout. The only thing you have done so far of any significance is to put a vote me. Hell i prefer this then that questioning bullshit you been putting out. At least your doing something. My only concern is im not sure whos more scummy you or supersoft.



On January 15 2013 01:38 Xatalos wrote:
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On January 14 2013 13:11 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 14 2013 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 14 2013 10:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think xatalos is a fine lynch for today, but I need to read up on his past games to make sure that he is the best lynch.

I don't agree with lynching super, so whoever is on him should probably consider moving their votes. On reread Hopeless doesn't seem that bad, just really lazy. I want him to actually do something though, or I may consider pushing him tomorrow, assuming I'm alive.

Ruuch: play the game or I'll stop giving you the newbie free card.

##vote Xatalos


Why Xatalos over SS I think both of played scummy so far.

WBG Answer this plz.

I could lynch either one. But imma gonna go ahead and go with Xatalos. I dont like his posts. His attack of me doesnt seem to have much merit.

I dont like his hard flip on Kush. Hes calling me out for doing nothing when hes done less. He throws some baseless accusations at me and just seems like hes trying ot go for an easy mislynch.



On January 14 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.

Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have.

Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game.

The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads.

Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal?


I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.

- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)

And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.

##Vote jaybrundage



Scum seem to have a habit of trying to get me mislynched day one. Soo why not use it to my advantage. I think your scum trying to put some pressure on an easy target. Well fuck that.

##Vote Xatalos


What's with this vote? Let's look at the arguments:

- My case doesn't seem to have much merit (what's this supposed to mean? it does have some merit but not enough? how is that scummy?)
- You don't like my hard flip on Kush (as I said, I've had a townread on Kush ever since he entered the thread by grabbing attention, and only for a moment did I suspect him after one blatantly scummy post - after his response I concluded that it actually belonged well enough with his "too scummy to be scum" verdict and dropped that line of thought - there's a fast switch of stance there, but it's nothing out of the ordinary when considering his scummy posting and especially that one post)
- You say I've done less than you (really? all you've done is call Kush scummy for grabbing attention, take a stab at supersoft for being useless, and call me scum for... basically posting a case with some merit, giving serious thought to Kush's alignment and apparently doing less than yourself, although I've clearly been more active and taken more stances than you)

This whole case feels forced and unconvinced. Even more so with vague wording like "his attack of me doesn't seem to have much merit", "I don't like his posts" and "seems like hes trying to go for an easy mislynch" (and what the heck, how is this an "easy mislynch", since most people here think you're town?).

Speaking of that, MrZentor, do you currently think Jay is town? What do you think about his latest posts?


On January 14 2013 13:11 jaybrundage wrote:
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On January 14 2013 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 14 2013 10:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think xatalos is a fine lynch for today, but I need to read up on his past games to make sure that he is the best lynch.

I don't agree with lynching super, so whoever is on him should probably consider moving their votes. On reread Hopeless doesn't seem that bad, just really lazy. I want him to actually do something though, or I may consider pushing him tomorrow, assuming I'm alive.

Ruuch: play the game or I'll stop giving you the newbie free card.

##vote Xatalos


Why Xatalos over SS I think both of played scummy so far.

WBG Answer this plz.

I could lynch either one. But imma gonna go ahead and go with Xatalos. I dont like his posts. His attack of me doesnt seem to have much merit.

I dont like his hard flip on Kush. Hes calling me out for doing nothing when hes done less. He throws some baseless accusations at me and just seems like hes trying ot go for an easy mislynch.



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On January 14 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.

Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have.

Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game.

The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads.

Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal?


I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.

- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)

And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.

##Vote jaybrundage



Scum seem to have a habit of trying to get me mislynched day one. Soo why not use it to my advantage. I think your scum trying to put some pressure on an easy target. Well fuck that.

##Vote Xatalos



On January 15 2013 03:19 Xatalos wrote:
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On January 15 2013 02:55 jaybrundage wrote:
I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

On January 14 2013 19:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can lynch Jay. He is super non-commital this game. He basically doesn't have any strong reads at all. Everytime he posts about someone he is saying stuff like :
filter
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.
On January 13 2013 11:08 jaybrundage wrote:
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?
He is doing this all the time and its a great way to appear contributing when you are in fact not.

Look at his filter from Hero MM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=56992&currentpage=All
He seems way more active and dishes out alot of scum reads during the strat of D1. He doesn't this game.

Also, his vote on Xata is pure OMGUS

##Vote: jaybrundage

@X Im not gonna go down a useless arguement about who has done what in cases of usefulness. And yes usually im an easy mislynch because I dont properly display townie traits when I am in fact town. Regardless I have been trying to change this British MM was a result of that.


Why won't you do something useful then instead of complaining how much of a lynchbait you are?



On January 15 2013 03:37 Xatalos wrote:
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On January 15 2013 03:13 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Just so yall know i will be leaving in 2 hours for work so I wont be here for the deadline.
Then by all means, post everything about everything. You will probebly not get lynched today anyway.

Eh thats the problem i have trouble having opinions on people day 1.

And I'm hesitant to post with out coherent thoughts on people.

I still think Xatalos has a good chance of flipping scum. His early game questioning seemed alot like scum probing peoples thoughts early with out really giving his own thoughts. Then when some pressure was applied on him he went to a case on me. I was pushed on as a mislynch in Hero MM day one VE who was scum actually made a pretty big case on me. So I have a feeling like that is what is happening here.



Why are you so vague in your suspicion of me? You use wording like "his play seemed a lot like scum" or "I have a feeling like that is what is happening here". Do you think so or do you merely suggest that thought to others? And that last part is just WIFOM.



On January 15 2013 02:55 jaybrundage wrote:
I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

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On January 14 2013 19:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can lynch Jay. He is super non-commital this game. He basically doesn't have any strong reads at all. Everytime he posts about someone he is saying stuff like :
filter
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

I have been quieter this game unfortunately a combination of my work schedule, and I find it hard to contribute day one especially with so many new people I haven't played with before. During Hero MM i got mislynched so I have been working to change the way I play the game. Look up my most recent game in British MM if you wanna see my most recent play. One of the things I have been trying to eliminate is posting with out having a clear goal in mind cause people usually end up mislynching me : (

Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.
On January 13 2013 11:08 jaybrundage wrote:
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?
He is doing this all the time and its a great way to appear contributing when you are in fact not.

Look at his filter from Hero MM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=56992&currentpage=All
He seems way more active and dishes out alot of scum reads during the strat of D1. He doesn't this game.

Also, his vote on Xata is pure OMGUS

##Vote: jaybrundage

@X Im not gonna go down a useless arguement about who has done what in cases of usefulness. And yes usually im an easy mislynch because I dont properly display townie traits when I am in fact town. Regardless I have been trying to change this British MM was a result of that.


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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
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February 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#1993
Oh that was all in day 1 btw
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 21 2013 20:41 GMT
#1994
On February 22 2013 05:30 debears wrote:
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On February 22 2013 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:27 debears wrote:
I love it when peoplr don't make cases, don't refute cases, and then just automatically assume they are right.

Yamato you can't deny what's right there in my cases, that's why you wont refute them

This loss is on you and cc

I did make a gigantic fucking case about VE.

I will not listen to anything else today.

You cannot discredit me or WIFOM anything about what VE's done because I'm right, and the townies following me know I'm right.

I know the mafia team, and you guys are showing your true colors today, just as I expected. But more in that later, if you don't just concede.


Yeah and I just made a huge counter case showing actual context refuting your case. You just refuse to reply to anythung in it specifically because you are wrong and know it

Fuck this you are actually scum yamato. Maybe phagga is town after all


Explain why Yamato wanted to lynch himself then so that his reads could be proven to be from a confirmed town. The only reason we lynched Snarfs instead was because Oats had doubts about him and his motives. Why would scum want to kill him self so that he could be a confirmed townie. That makes no sense. In the slightest. Also the fact that no one that has been nominated has been scum yet.
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