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yamato77
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Obviously some of you think he's mafia, such as jay and Oats, so why don't you guys make your own case? I think Djo made a decent point, yes, but I still think he might be town despite it. I thought my case was good, too, but he still might be town despite that. Yes, this is wishy-washy, as I've been accused of, but in all honesty D1 reads change very quickly. If you think I'm bad/scum for thinking he might be town after all this, you need to justify your read better. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 07 2013 13:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: lol jay i barely read dessert, just did the sexy flavor. Oh Yamato and that list post. Palmar should be null imo Do you disagree with any of my reads? | ||
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yamato77
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On February 07 2013 13:18 Mocsta wrote: Djodref, I already explained. I did a randomization as well. and it listed you for lynch. Why can I not follow through with that? Why cant my RNG on you, be a valid medium for discussion. The day you tell me that you are willing to lynch yourself UNCONTESTED if your name pops up on the RNG, is the day I will actually give it real thought as a mechanism to fight scum. Mocsta, if my newly minted town read on you is correct, I would suggest you stop wasting your time debating RNG lynches and instead focus on what actually going on in the game. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 07 2013 13:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Personally idk about Sloosh or prplhz being in the townie section. You seems to give town cred fairly easily. I don't even think I've earned a townie stamp as of yet. What would you consider if one of your 3 scummer reads were to flip town? One of JX and palmar is likely town. two mega lurker scum is unlikely. Town cred comes easily. One of the weaknesses of my play in the past was ignoring town tells, so I think I've gotten a lot better about that. There are four mafia, and of the four I think might be right now, Palmar is the most likely to be town because this type of behavior is alignment-null for him, in general. If we lynched him and he flipped town, I would say Mocsta and Djo would be the next two I would want to reassess. Right now I'm pretty sure about Sloosh/Prplhz/Oats/Jay/You though. | ||
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yamato77
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yamato77
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Jay may not be playing superstar mode town, as he's often scummy even as town, but I don't think he's mafia. He was way lurky day 1 as mafia in Dessert and I caught him easy that game in obs so I'm not worried about him. What town needs now is to consolidate, and I don't think anyone would oppose a JX lynch. | ||
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yamato77
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Having played with him as mafia in Normal IV, he's like this as scum. He spams up the QT and only rarely posts in the thread. He's the best lynch for today by a mile. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 07 2013 23:05 Palmar wrote: I can't be much around today. Very quick reading makes me want to lynch cheescake, snarfs, prplhz maybe phagga or yamato So I'll leave my vote on prplhz Posts like these make me feel good about my red read on you. | ||
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yamato77
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JX Palmar Phagga Snarfs Lynch JX today, see which of them pop up tomorrow, if any, and go from there. Should be easy to lynch down this list and win. Everyone else has given me good reason to think them town, either through meta, activity, or simply giving a shit about what is going on today. Snarf's read in VE is an excuse to not comment on anything else except giving a really silly defense of Palmar when Palmar has only a couple votes at most. Phagga is more concerned with himself than finding mafia this entire game. He's the one I'm lest confident about on this team, but he's fairly red all on his own. Palmar is continuing to do nothing, but as has been said this is par for the course for him as any alignment. However, what he has contributed feels very superficial. His Bugs policy lynch from LVIII had more depth than his play this game. JX I have covered thoroughly. There's no reason to think he's town at all, especially since we're more than three quarters done with day 1. He dies today. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Let me know, concisely, why you think prpl is mafia. I don't think he is and I'll be glad to show why, but first I want you to explain it in short form, just the outline reasons. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 08 2013 00:49 JieXian wrote: WAIT............ I was about to dig through Djo's filter but how is RNG possibly useful to lure scum? wtf? And sorry guys I posted yesterday and went to sleep, have been busy the whole day. I probably will be here for a few hours now. I'm sorry you rolled mafia two games in a row, JX. Kinda kills your will to play, huh? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Well, um, you're kinda going to die today. Any last words? | ||
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yamato77
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This is prplhz's filter from LIX where he was mafia, lynched D1. While this is only somewhat useful on its own, what is important to note is how he was caught that game, which was through analysis of his meta. So, at the very least, we can assume that some of his posting this game is similar to how he usually plays mafia, and especially so at the beginning of the game. So what characteristics do we use to define that filter? Trollish, disconnected, and overall useless to town. Devoid of reads, or any real interaction. Yes, at some point he realized he was dead and did nothing, but that wasn't the whole day. At least some part of that filter is indicative of his meta, and he hasn't matched it at all this game. On February 06 2013 21:50 prplhz wrote: I'm on page 15 and scrolling down and seeing who is discussing I just want to say something really quick. Oatsmaster, Mocsta: Stop focusing on each other. Just by your activity neither of you are up for lynch right now so stop focusing on each other. Whatever useful you could be doing by arguing with each other you've done it by now so quit it and stop messing the thread up. It is bloating the thread and for hardly any reason. Take a deep breath and a step back and focus on something else, if you want better reads on each other then just reread your discussion, I'm sure there's something you missed. Alright going to read page 15 now. But seriously, quit it and do something else. This is his first post this game. What is he doing here? Caring about town, and actually giving out reads. Town reads, but reads nonetheless, and some insight into how he got them. This is a stark difference from the trolly attitude he got caught with in LIX. On February 07 2013 04:39 prplhz wrote: Dude, just tell him now. You don't want slOosh and his case on your back today because you're going to end up getting lynched. The case is pretty decent and I'd say you stand a good chance of getting lynched today, or at the very least you're going to attract a lot of attention to yourself which is not something we generally want out of a townie on day 1. So just say what you found in phagga's filter that makes you see him as town in spite of how he has done things that put you on to your main scum read. Your excuse that you wont say because "mafia will just talk about it" doesn't hold. Your read is absolutely void unless you can explain it to other people in this thread so get going please. This post, he keeps with his pro-town theme and gives two more reads. He says I could be lynched, that he agrees with Sloosh's case. Again, he is thinking about who he wants to lynch, why he wants to lynch them, and being townie about it. The dude is green. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 08 2013 01:14 prplhz wrote: Will people please comment on jaybrundage. JieXian sucks and he'll need to do something about that but in the meantime I want some feedback on jaybrundage. You think he's mafia because of the way he went about pressuring Djo, correct? I'll take a look, just because I think you're town and might be right. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 08 2013 01:15 JieXian wrote: I'm not saying he's scum yet, I just can't rationalise with it. I'll decide after his promised post on VE Who is scum right now JX. Today is almost over and you've done nothing but make a case on Mocsta today, and now you're not even pushing that read. If you're town you have zero reason to play this way right now. | ||
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yamato77
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Jay, for instance, I said I would look into. How does he play as mafia? Aloof, trollish, lurky. Is he any of that this game? Maybe kind of lurky, but he did pressure Djo on a valid point. He backed off because he realized Djo might not be mafia after all. Why would a mafia player draw attention to himself with a dumb idea like a random lynch? As CC said, he's much more likely to be silly town like thrawn from Hero Mini. I think jay realized this somewhere along the line. He gets townie points for picking out JX as a read, too. No reason to think he's mafia yet, to be honest. | ||
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yamato77
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yamato77
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JX, Palmar, Snarfs, Phagga Most of you want to lynch at least one of them, no? Why not lynch JX first? I want reasons he is town before we consider anyone else today. | ||
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yamato77
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On February 08 2013 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Also Yamato, I feel the need to say this. You are the towniest I've ever seen you in any game I've played with you. And that disturbs me lol. Your town play was always confirmation biased "kill cheesecake RAWR RAWR". Either your playing a great scumgame here or you've actually leveled your head. As far as I see it Oats, JX is equal to Palmar right now. Both have been similarly as useless, just throwing random names out there with little justification. JX seems scummier marginally. Palmar is all lurky and stuff, sure, but if he's town we will KNOW it tomorrow (or tonight). I agree wholeheartedly with what you say here. I feel exactly the same way. | ||
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yamato77
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Why are people switching off JX? I need to know why he's not dying if people want to lynch other people. | ||
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