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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2013 11:36 GMT
#281
On February 06 2013 20:28 Djodref wrote:
Mocsta play reminds me of his play in the last newbie where he was scum, accusing people to not particpate in the pointless early game discussions and focusing on town atmosphere type arguments. The thing is that he did similar things in the games he was town but not in the game he replaced in. Slightly scum on Mocsta.

Right, because meta in a newbie matters?
Either way, why dont you read the posts before Oats started cherry picking things, and contesting everything I said. + I already pointed out the differences between me n oats headbutting when I was scum, and the my alignment now.
On February 06 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote:
Fair comment. we did butt heads (me scum, you town). But I think this exchange has gone differently.
  • That game I called you out for killing atmosphere by being too aggressive, and then went into flame wars.

  • This game, I am calling you out for thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game. I am actually asking you to realise that it is imperitive that we open our eyes to the challenge that this game presents.

Do you disagree with this statement? Your post above indicates that you do..
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2013 11:37 GMT
#282
On February 06 2013 20:32 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:23 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
The way Mocsta attacked it was subtly saying that I am a hypocrite because I attacked him for doing the same thing, in his words.
However, he didnt say that the sentence was scummy, condemn me for personally attacking another player, which is the 'normal' way to it.

I didnt say the sentence was scummy, because I didnt think the sentence was scummy.

Whats your point; your rational for why it is a scum tell is weak, and clutching at straws. Not only that, its poor scum hunting, because everyone else knows its clutching at straws; so you cant achieve anything by submitting for discussion either.


@ Mocsta

I propose a radom lynch on Oats today.
Are you in ?

No I am not
I already listed my read on Oats,
and why I am against RNG lynch.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395690&currentpage=14#277
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 11:38 GMT
#283
Nope you are not getting away with that explanation.

My thoughts using your words.


This means that you basically 'wrote' the words by quoting.

Which means you said that my 'rage post' was scummy.

DO YOU DENY THAT?

I found your posts and pointed out something you would have said to me; if i had made the joke to VE.

No I didnt say that to you. Your posts about me leaving and getting a replacement were totally serious, and thus, my response was serious. My post was a joke, and you saying that it was scummy, is a scumtell.

Anything else you dont understand?
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 06 2013 11:39 GMT
#284
On February 06 2013 20:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:57 Djodref wrote:
@ Mocsta

What is your read on Oats right now ?
Also regarding the nomination mechanics, I think we should keep this for nomination events.
It gives scum an easy way to participate to the discussion and maybe give them ideas on hpw to use these mechanics at best. I think we can see which strategy they decide to use when we know the nominees.

@ everyone

I saw that phagga brought up the statitics gathered by kita lately. Debears also mentioned it in LVIII and I shat on it because I was scum and him town at that point, but I would like to see how a random lynch would work out for this day1. I would like to propose a way to randomize the lynch in my next post.
(1)
I have a leaning town read on Oats. As scum, Oats has a tendency to puff out his chest in front of mice; and whimper in a corner in front of a lion. To him I am not a lion, but his one-track mindness on him being right, is in my opinion a confidence obtained by being town.

(2)
Nomination mechanics: I agree its not validity to discussion at this point in time (not even half the players have inputted).. but I think it needs to be discussed at the latest after Day1 lynch (i.e. Day2 dawn phase).. the things I already listed are not rocket science. its probably things everyone else has alraedy considered, thus, its not like im developing a super-awesome battle plan that no one else can figure out. The setup is out in the open, and I think its beneficial to discuss with town the potential ramifications; it is our way of indirectly influencing scum options. Why not take this little advantage?

(3)
As for RNG, im not in favour. If you do that, might as well not play forum mafia, and just play in excel, where each person is a number. And every 2minutes you lynch someone randomly, until no players remain. I would think 9-4 ratio results in town winning a vast majority. If thats your cup of tea, go ahead be my guest; but Im not in support of that actoin.


1. Mmmm. Did your read change since the beginning of this game ?

2. Yeah, I was basically saying that we should discuss then when we know the nominees i.e.during the day 2 dawn phase.

3. I only propose a random lynch for today.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 11:40 GMT
#285
Mocsta
Right, because meta in a newbie matters?

Clearly it does, as Marv showed in LIX, where he meta'ed me very accurately. You were also in that game, dont tell me you forgot. I made the same argument too.
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 06 2013 11:41 GMT
#286
On February 06 2013 20:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:28 Djodref wrote:
Mocsta play reminds me of his play in the last newbie where he was scum, accusing people to not particpate in the pointless early game discussions and focusing on town atmosphere type arguments. The thing is that he did similar things in the games he was town but not in the game he replaced in. Slightly scum on Mocsta.

Right, because meta in a newbie matters?
Either way, why dont you read the posts before Oats started cherry picking things, and contesting everything I said. + I already pointed out the differences between me n oats headbutting when I was scum, and the my alignment now.
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote:
Fair comment. we did butt heads (me scum, you town). But I think this exchange has gone differently.
  • That game I called you out for killing atmosphere by being too aggressive, and then went into flame wars.

  • This game, I am calling you out for thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game. I am actually asking you to realise that it is imperitive that we open our eyes to the challenge that this game presents.

Do you disagree with this statement? Your post above indicates that you do..


The last game where you were scum was your last newbie and not so long ago so it's relevant for me.
Did your read on Oats change since the beginning of this game ?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2013 11:44 GMT
#287
On February 06 2013 20:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nope you are not getting away with that explanation.

Show nested quote +
My thoughts using your words.


This means that you basically 'wrote' the words by quoting.

Which means you said that my 'rage post' was scummy.

DO YOU DENY THAT?

Show nested quote +
I found your posts and pointed out something you would have said to me; if i had made the joke to VE.

No I didnt say that to you. Your posts about me leaving and getting a replacement were totally serious, and thus, my response was serious. My post was a joke, and you saying that it was scummy, is a scumtell.

Anything else you dont understand?

Yeah, i dont understand your point, as you are mixing two completely different issues.

I am going to make one final post regarding matters, if you reply, good for you, I am not going to bother.

(1) Me asking you to leave was a serious request, that I did not ever expect you to take seriously. I still think your treating this game as if its a newbie; and not giving it the respect it deserves. I am going going to insult you on why I think that is the case, only you know the real answer.

(2) My post, referencing your quotes, was indeed a joke as i specified. You have already called me scum several times, for doing lesser things than your joke post to VE. I wanted to return to you the favour; you obviously can only dish it out, and not receive.

So to answer your question; i dont think your "rage post" was scummy; I have already given my initial read on you (obviously subject to change as the game progresses). So yes, i deny the statement.
=======
Done with you on these topics, Oats.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 11:44 GMT
#288
That game I called you out for killing atmosphere by being too aggressive, and then went into flame wars.

This game, I am calling you out for thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game. I am actually asking you to realise that it is imperitive that we open our eyes to the challenge that this game presents.


This game:

On February 06 2013 13:26 Mocsta wrote:
You say I am not helping town? All you have done is try to fling shit at the only active participant thus far.
Great help your doing.

On February 06 2013 13:39 Mocsta wrote:
You are trying to shit all over them, without providing additional avenues for discourse. There is nothing solid in your play so far.


I would say that you are calling me agressive and saying that I am causing a bad atmosphere. Similar to in your scum game hmm?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2013 11:46 GMT
#289
On February 06 2013 20:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta
Show nested quote +
Right, because meta in a newbie matters?

Clearly it does, as Marv showed in LIX, where he meta'ed me very accurately. You were also in that game, dont tell me you forgot. I made the same argument too.

This is a separate conversation. And again, last I will say.

Marv targeted you based on your actions, and your 180' changes in opinion on him (i.e marv is scum.. ohh marv is super town within 2 posts). He then followed up with meta.

I targeted you based on meta. I have played now 3 games in a row with you, and I do think I have a grasp on your style.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 06 2013 11:46 GMT
#290
And to answer your question, I did not say that you did exactly what you did in your last scum game. But while reading, I also thought about this game before Oats brought it up in the thread.
So, yeah, I'm suspicious of you but not enough to drop my random lynch on Oats ^^
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 11:47 GMT
#291
Mocsta
I still think your treating this game as if its a newbie

Explain how a newbie is treated differently?

Also, so you are saying that your response to my joke, was a joke?

Anyone else think that?

Im quoting it again just in case.
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 06 2013 16:53 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck you VE, I WILL NEVER SUBMIT. I AM ALWAYS RIGHT AND ALL OF YOU ARE FOOLS.

==================

My thoughts using your words.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
whats the point of writing this.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 13:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
And I dont know why a town player would do this, therefore you are scum.



No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 11:50 GMT
#292
Mocsta, learn to read.
Seriously you seem to be the only person with this problem.

On February 06 2013 20:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:28 Djodref wrote:
Mocsta play reminds me of his play in the last newbie where he was scum, accusing people to not particpate in the pointless early game discussions and focusing on town atmosphere type arguments. The thing is that he did similar things in the games he was town but not in the game he replaced in. Slightly scum on Mocsta.

Right, because meta in a newbie matters?

(not important)
+ Show Spoiler +
Either way, why dont you read the posts before Oats started cherry picking things, and contesting everything I said. + I already pointed out the differences between me n oats headbutting when I was scum, and the my alignment now.
On February 06 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote:
Fair comment. we did butt heads (me scum, you town). But I think this exchange has gone differently.
  • That game I called you out for killing atmosphere by being too aggressive, and then went into flame wars.

  • This game, I am calling you out for thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game. I am actually asking you to realise that it is imperitive that we open our eyes to the challenge that this game presents.

Do you disagree with this statement? Your post above indicates that you do..


Djo is meta reading you and you say that his argument is invaild. Why? Considering with what happened in LIX
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 06 2013 11:52 GMT
#293
On February 06 2013 20:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta
Show nested quote +
I still think your treating this game as if its a newbie

Explain how a newbie is treated differently?

Also, so you are saying that your response to my joke, was a joke?

Anyone else think that?

Im quoting it again just in case.
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 06 2013 16:53 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck you VE, I WILL NEVER SUBMIT. I AM ALWAYS RIGHT AND ALL OF YOU ARE FOOLS.

==================

My thoughts using your words.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
whats the point of writing this.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 13:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
And I dont know why a town player would do this, therefore you are scum.





I'm disappointed by Mocsta, I was hoping that he could join my random lynch on you.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 11:53 GMT
#294
Djo,
You said the random lynch was to choose the target right? And to start discussion around the target right?
So what do you think about lynching me?
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 06 2013 12:12 GMT
#295
On February 06 2013 20:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Djo,
You said the random lynch was to choose the target right? And to start discussion around the target right?
So what do you think about lynching me?


I'd like to answer this question after I get the input from other players if you don't mind.
I also would like Palmar to weight in on the random lynch thing ^^

How sure are you that Mocsta is scum by the way ?
What is the most definite case you can bring against him ?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 12:25 GMT
#296
Quick summary


Excessive personal attacks,

Trying to pass off stuff as a joke when it clearly isnt

You say I am not helping town? All you have done is try to fling shit at the only active participant thus far.

For day1 i have been trying to promote discussion. I would contest he was actively killing the discussion.

He did the EXACT same thing in XXXV where he was scum

thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game.

Uhuh. yeah personal attacks.

I AM NOT SETUP SPECULATING. The fuckn setup is 9 town, 4 mafia.

Looks like he is willfully misunderstanding what I am saying .

I kept saying in the Obs QT when you do it, its scummy as fuck.

No effort to explain why.

And now he says he has a town read on me
After saying stuff like

On February 06 2013 13:26 Mocsta wrote:
You say I am not helping town? All you have done is try to fling shit at the only active participant thus far.

On February 06 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
You realise that your post structure is mimicking your play from Mafia LIX right? (You were scum)


No gg, No skill.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2013 12:50 GMT
#297
I'm on page 15 and scrolling down and seeing who is discussing I just want to say something really quick.

Oatsmaster, Mocsta: Stop focusing on each other. Just by your activity neither of you are up for lynch right now so stop focusing on each other. Whatever useful you could be doing by arguing with each other you've done it by now so quit it and stop messing the thread up. It is bloating the thread and for hardly any reason. Take a deep breath and a step back and focus on something else, if you want better reads on each other then just reread your discussion, I'm sure there's something you missed.

Alright going to read page 15 now.

But seriously, quit it and do something else.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 06 2013 12:53 GMT
#298
Hey,
Respond about Djo's random lynch idea and VE's LYNCH ALL LURKERS policy. Is it normal for VE?
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 06 2013 13:02 GMT
#299
On February 06 2013 21:50 prplhz wrote:
I'm on page 15 and scrolling down and seeing who is discussing I just want to say something really quick.

Oatsmaster, Mocsta: Stop focusing on each other. Just by your activity neither of you are up for lynch right now so stop focusing on each other. Whatever useful you could be doing by arguing with each other you've done it by now so quit it and stop messing the thread up. It is bloating the thread and for hardly any reason. Take a deep breath and a step back and focus on something else, if you want better reads on each other then just reread your discussion, I'm sure there's something you missed.

Alright going to read page 15 now.

But seriously, quit it and do something else.


@ prplhz

Could you expand on your activity argument ? Are you implying that you are going to lynch a lurker today ?
Why wouldn't you lynch Oats especially ?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2013 13:22 GMT
#300
Djo. I explained why I don't support the RNG lynch.

For funzies I ran a RNzg and it identified you as the random lynch for day 1.
Will u support me with this campaign?
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