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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 22 2013 07:20 GMT
#1161
Yeah Vivax being mafia doesn't really make any sense unless I think Toad is mafia, so for now I'll take my tinfoil hat off and just agree with you vets because your reads so far are pretty good.
Writer@WriterYamato
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 22 2013 07:22 GMT
#1162
On January 22 2013 16:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 16:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta. L2R.
[b]
Must be an honest mistake and not you trying to misquote me right?
[b]

Going on to the might be scum read due to the fact that you dont want to admit your mistake.


You can read me however you want.

But I added in your reasoning you gave to FT.. it was not relevant to what I pointed out

which was that the conviction in your post reads as if you knew 100% who is mislynch and who isnt.

That type of certainty is either over-confidence, or you have information others don't.

Considering this game in general your aggression has been toned down, I can not attribute the read to over-confidence.. that leaves us you have information others don't.

In fairness, I did not consider you could be a mason .. but I cant see a reason for you to mason prplhz, so this again becomes moot.


YO. STOP AND READ MORE CAREFULLY.

If he is town he is talking about HIMSELF. Ofc he HIMSELF would be 100% mislynch.

Come on, this is not rocket science.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 22 2013 07:23 GMT
#1163
I mean ffs even the word "me" was in there.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 22 2013 07:24 GMT
#1164
Mocsta, last time I am mentioning this, its fucking stupid.


Oatsmaster
Ok on to FiveTouch,
He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads.

I am saying that his mislynch WOULD BE ME, cause thats who he said he was gonna lynch at that time.
I have no idea how you twisted it into prp would be a mislynch.
Read the quotes properly next time so you dont accuse someone on a made-up argument based on misreading a quote.
No gg, No skill.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 07:28 GMT
#1165
On January 22 2013 16:20 DearestSnot wrote:
Toad do you feel like there was resistance to the prpl lynch?

from people I'd consider town maybe. Although I wouldn't call that resistance. Mostly people saying "yeah I agree prplhz is a good lynch but I don't think he's the best. I'd rather lynch X instead". Like I did as well.

I don't recall any real resistance besides Annul I guess? But that might have just been "Toad's a dick, fuck that guy" when he was posting it, because he didn't like me getting votes at all. Have to check it again.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 22 2013 07:31 GMT
#1166
On January 22 2013 15:49 DearestSnot wrote:
Mocsta you should read more carefully. Oats was against electing FT because FT wanted to kill him.

Upon rereading and looking back at things I actually think Oats is town. Anyone agree?

As soon as FT is back perhaps he can explain further why he thinks Oats actually looks worse, because I disagree on that.


Noted on what you are saying.

I re-read.. I did not think my critique of Oats was related to him being against FT election however?

It was related to his conviction in saying prplhz was a mislynch.

Perhaps you realised this so if you went out of your way to pointing it out prob means Im missing a piece of the puzzle?!?

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 22 2013 07:32 GMT
#1167
On January 22 2013 16:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta, last time I am mentioning this, its fucking stupid.

Show nested quote +

Oatsmaster
Ok on to FiveTouch,
He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads.

I am saying that his mislynch WOULD BE ME, cause thats who he said he was gonna lynch at that time.
I have no idea how you twisted it into prp would be a mislynch.
Read the quotes properly next time so you dont accuse someone on a made-up argument based on misreading a quote.

Fuck sorry man.. your right

Thats embarassing.

I apologise and will go back to work. Obviously I cant multi task.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 22 2013 07:32 GMT
#1168
On January 22 2013 16:31 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 15:49 DearestSnot wrote:
Mocsta you should read more carefully. Oats was against electing FT because FT wanted to kill him.

Upon rereading and looking back at things I actually think Oats is town. Anyone agree?

As soon as FT is back perhaps he can explain further why he thinks Oats actually looks worse, because I disagree on that.


Noted on what you are saying.

I re-read.. I did not think my critique of Oats was related to him being against FT election however?

It was related to his conviction in saying prplhz was a mislynch.

Perhaps you realised this so if you went out of your way to pointing it out prob means Im missing a piece of the puzzle?!?



Bugs pls disregard.. i misread.. which was teh piece of the puzzle.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 22 2013 07:35 GMT
#1169
I want to see what sandro will have to say when he sees prpl has flipped scum. The PM exchange between you two made him look considerably more townie, but honestly his public reads are not very good IMO.

What do you make of debears basically trolling?

On January 22 2013 16:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 16:31 Mocsta wrote:
On January 22 2013 15:49 DearestSnot wrote:
Mocsta you should read more carefully. Oats was against electing FT because FT wanted to kill him.

Upon rereading and looking back at things I actually think Oats is town. Anyone agree?

As soon as FT is back perhaps he can explain further why he thinks Oats actually looks worse, because I disagree on that.


Noted on what you are saying.

I re-read.. I did not think my critique of Oats was related to him being against FT election however?

It was related to his conviction in saying prplhz was a mislynch.

Perhaps you realised this so if you went out of your way to pointing it out prob means Im missing a piece of the puzzle?!?



Bugs pls disregard.. i misread.. which was teh piece of the puzzle.


hahahaha trust me, you'll be laughing about this in a couple of minutes. Come back to the thread when you have a clear mind :D
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 22 2013 07:39 GMT
#1170
Well based on how oats reacted. Im going for town now.

Man. Still feel like an idiot.

Gonna come back after work. Maybe 6hrs
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 07:40 GMT
#1171
On January 22 2013 16:35 DearestSnot wrote:
I want to see what sandro will have to say when he sees prpl has flipped scum. The PM exchange between you two made him look considerably more townie, but honestly his public reads are not very good IMO.

What do you make of debears basically trolling?

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 16:32 Mocsta wrote:
On January 22 2013 16:31 Mocsta wrote:
On January 22 2013 15:49 DearestSnot wrote:
Mocsta you should read more carefully. Oats was against electing FT because FT wanted to kill him.

Upon rereading and looking back at things I actually think Oats is town. Anyone agree?

As soon as FT is back perhaps he can explain further why he thinks Oats actually looks worse, because I disagree on that.


Noted on what you are saying.

I re-read.. I did not think my critique of Oats was related to him being against FT election however?

It was related to his conviction in saying prplhz was a mislynch.

Perhaps you realised this so if you went out of your way to pointing it out prob means Im missing a piece of the puzzle?!?



Bugs pls disregard.. i misread.. which was teh piece of the puzzle.


hahahaha trust me, you'll be laughing about this in a couple of minutes. Come back to the thread when you have a clear mind :D


oh he has been back and we have been talking a bunch. He just hasn't posted in here. He's afk as of now though.

debears looks bad... and when I say bad it usually means "weird" or "out of character" and not "bad" but in this case it's actually bad and not weird.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 22 2013 07:41 GMT
#1172
yo Toad that last post was directed at you, btw.

How would you call the scumteam right now if you had to? All 4, maybe give some possibilities out of a max 6 let's say. Explain if you can, I'm curious to see if it matches up with my reads.

I'll be back in a couple hours, I'm gonna go watch a movie.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 22 2013 07:42 GMT
#1173
can you post those logs with sandro whenever?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 07:44 GMT
#1174
I could, I'd rather not. Needs a lot of editing.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 07:50 GMT
#1175
On January 22 2013 16:41 DearestSnot wrote:
yo Toad that last post was directed at you, btw.

How would you call the scumteam right now if you had to? All 4, maybe give some possibilities out of a max 6 let's say. Explain if you can, I'm curious to see if it matches up with my reads.

I'll be back in a couple hours, I'm gonna go watch a movie.


slot #1: Annul or Chez. Leaning on Annul, if he's not Chez is mafia imo. If stuff goes south and they SOMEHOW manage to flip town it has to be somenoe like gonzaw/you/austin but I really doubt that. So answer for that one would be Annul / Chez

slot #2: 1 out of oats / djo / JX

slot #3: 1 out of remaining out of (oats / djo / JX) + / Grush / debears / stutters

slot #4: 1 out of clarity / BKE ?

I don't have a lot of reads about people posting very few. So slots 3 and 4 are based and character treats I'd tell my buddies (assuming I'd be mafia) to play to make sure team mafia has diversity. Nothing else.

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 07:53 GMT
#1176
If you're pressing me to formulate a real list with the guys I'd pick if I had to right now I'd say it's:
Annul as #1, oats or JX as #2, debears as #3, BKE as #4.

clarity seems very unlikely to be mafia but it's possible I guess.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 08:04 GMT
#1177
Quadruple-post ftw:
JX might actually be more likely mafia for the #2 slot than oats, but that'd make oats go to #3 together with debears. I know JX somewhat from the TL-language exchanging thread. He has my skype and we're skyping in german every once in a while. I'd say every 2nd or every 3rd day for an hour, maybe a bit longer? So I'd say I know him somewhat outside of the game.

That being said I think he'd be the kind of guy who'd have troubles to post as mafia while talking freely about what's on his mind as town. I obviously can't back that one up at all and it's a personal opinion that could be wrong but I think so :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 22 2013 08:06 GMT
#1178
Toad, just to make it easier to read, do you mean
Character Treats where treats mean
An event or item that is out of the ordinary and gives great pleasure.
or Character Traits where traits mean


A distinguishing quality or characteristic, typically one belonging to a person.



No gg, No skill.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 08:10 GMT
#1179
On January 22 2013 17:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Toad, just to make it easier to read, do you mean
Character Treats where treats mean
An event or item that is out of the ordinary and gives great pleasure.
or Character Traits where traits mean


A distinguishing quality or characteristic, typically one belonging to a person.




second one.

slot #4 is "the lurker" :p
BKE being the prime candidate because clarity got almost (?) modkilled for not voting and call me old fashioned but outside of newbie games mafias don't get modkilled for not voting.
WBG remember the game where you were mafia with RedFF? I think rad or BC or both were mafia together with you, the one were VE was SK and was really good?

BKE is redFF.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
January 22 2013 08:12 GMT
#1180
As of my reads now I see Vivax and Annul as scum.

Vivax:
I see mayor post as null in itself, but his follow up was quite strange. It never seemed as if he wanted to take the position, and his scumhunting (possibly to give him credibility in the election) was very forced. If you read the questions that he asked they are basically the same questions that he asks to each person.

On January 20 2013 20:26 Vivax wrote:
Allow me to correct: Toad should consolidate, Axle should just learn to format his posts properly. Gonzaw is also one of those able to produce hurricanes of text.

mkfuba07 /confirm'd but didn't post anything since Daypost. Other "lurkers" didn't /confirm at all.

@ mkfuba07

Why so silent?Who do you think is scum?Who would you elect?

@ Djodref

Hello Djodref.

You have been asking a lot of questions lately.
May I beg for you to answer mine first?

What do you think of JieXian?
Who would you vote for Mayor right now?
Any tentative scumreads?




This means that he wasn't looking for scum though their filters, but rather was trying to look like he was scumhunting by asking questions. The fact that he doesn't follow up on any of the questions is even more concerting, wouldn't a townie much less a mayoral candidate be more meticulous about his scumhunting? Letting questions drift into the abyss is something scum would do.

Annul is more of a gut read for me. He is tunneling and acting pretty oblivious to things, which strikes me as scummy since he is a more experienced player.
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