Am I misinterpreting the OP or are mafia limited to one Jack? If so then we can confirm Yamato which narrows that pool even further.

Annul does concern me though that he was asking to save chez but if he is a hatter it makes sense so we can't really get much out of that.

Gonna look into a vivax lynch just due to how anti town he is. Maybe I missed something

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January 28 2013 02:33 GMT

#3256

On January 28 2013 11:29 FiveTouch wrote:
We need to stop gaming the setup and look for mafia the normal way, I think.

It's worth getting out of the way. If we happened to confirm/catch someone that'd be huge, wrist case we've just wasted an hour but we still have plenty of time today. As I said before I'm still really focused on vivax.

Vivax - who did you check night 2 and did they return red or green? You don't have to say the role unless it hit scum.

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January 28 2013 03:38 GMT

#3262

On January 28 2013 11:34 FiveTouch wrote:
Already stated in thread, Stutters. I don't know why you haven't read the thread to be honest.

I stopped reading his posts part of the way into the day because I would have argued with everything he said and it would have been pointless.

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January 28 2013 21:15 GMT

#3439

FT: What do you think makes me scum except ignoring Vivax discussion d3? If you think I've been playing a scum game so far, why would I come out and admit I hadn't read something instead of just not commenting? There was zero reason for me to ask that excerpt to satiate my own curiosity. It would have been much safer to not say anything if I had nothing to hide. Seems like an incredibly drastic change from before the flip from not mentioning me at all before bke flipped town.

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January 29 2013 03:30 GMT

#3533

On January 29 2013 12:26 FiveTouch wrote:

Show nested quote +

Because I don't know who's mafia, it's quite simple.

The reason I keep asking Vivax, and anyone who will listen, about what they thought about the day 3 lynch, is because;

it seems absolutely apparent to me who was getting lynched on day 3, so the fact that annul had his bomb on chezinu should at the least be a cause for concern. But if a bunch of other townies for some reason didn't think it was a forgeone conclusion, then something I find obvious clearly isn't obvious to everyone else. Which changes how I view things.

I asked him that question a while ago. I would have to check his filter and remember what he said though. I had that same concern. Especially with BKE flipping town.

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January 29 2013 04:24 GMT

#3570

Still would love to hear an answer as to why you kept your bomb on chez annul.

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January 29 2013 16:26 GMT

#3640

This is pure WIFOM but the only thing that gives me pause about an annul lynch is how obviously of a bad play it was for scum if he knew BKE would flip town. He pretty much asked us to keep scum at 2kp another night without suggesting a solid case for the double lynch. Surely he'd know how bad that would bite him in the ass as soon as the flip happened?

But his lack of truly explaining why he kept his bomb on chez and the convenience of his claim from a scum perspective (no way to verify other than role cop) doesn't look good. Additionally the whole mason thing with Mocsta didn't sit right with me. At the time it was hard to explain since he just abruptly stopped talking to Mocsta so he wouldn't potentially get framed. That's all well and good, but why wouldn't he push him after. He said another Mason was scum, voted Mocsta (mason) and tried to save Chez (confirmed scum mason). These are an awful lot of coincidences in addition to not being a very town player in general.

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January 29 2013 16:27 GMT

#3641

Also Mocsta can you provide the timestamp for the first PM Annul responded with? Thanks.

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January 29 2013 16:31 GMT

#3643

Oh goddamnit. I was working when the day post happened. Read it and moved on.

Annul what time did you send the PM?

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January 29 2013 16:39 GMT

#3647

Well other than that I asked a dead guy something, what do you think about what I said?

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January 29 2013 22:09 GMT

#3702

So if axle flips town who would you think is the best 2nd lynch tomorrow? Ditto if he flips scum.

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January 30 2013 00:31 GMT

#3712

On January 30 2013 07:10 grush57 wrote:
either you or annul.

Care to explain or are you just going to throw out names that aren't considered confirmed town without actually explaining why? Other than the fact you're a mason you've provided nothing that suggests you're town. Care to contribute?

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January 30 2013 02:35 GMT

#3723

On January 30 2013 08:40 annul wrote:
yeah, mafia have to achieve one less mislynch, so they get a jack, gf, at least 2 masons, and probably an rb and framer, right?

Can you give me the time stamp on the first PM you sent to Mocsta? Thanks.

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January 30 2013 22:47 GMT

#3788

And if we hit a scum before we double lynch we're guaranteeing a mislynch. Odds are we won't hit two scum double lynching with two scum up but we're taking out unreadable people. This is beneficial for us because we will be wasting less days with agreed lynches where the people in question won't say shit. I haven't seen you say a single reason except towns power goes up as we have less people (obvious). That also regardless of when we use it.

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January 31 2013 00:45 GMT

#3831

Annul please post the timestamp for your first pm to mocsta. I'm serious about this.

Catching up on the thread now.

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January 31 2013 07:42 GMT

#3875

the only thing that concerns me about an Adam lynch would be that he did actually take a stand on bke (guaranteed lynch anyway) and called axle scum at the same time. However since then, he hasn't once pushed him again(before the lynch) or publish a read. He's definitely getting a vote unless someone has a really good reason. not sure on who I think else would be good.

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February 01 2013 01:19 GMT

#3955

On February 01 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Stop trolling. We kill annul. austin is kinda tempting because he deserves to be lynched for being wrong the whole game and not submitting to me.

If Toad jked annul doesn't that prove he can't be scum?

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February 01 2013 05:49 GMT

#3991

really would love to hear your thoughts Toad.

annul did you get a rb notification.

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February 01 2013 16:27 GMT

#4117

On February 02 2013 01:25 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm not really willing to consider a 3 GF scenario in an already-nerfed setup for town. I don't think BC is that bad at balancing.

We just lynch down my list and win. Oats/fuba today, annul the next day, grush the next, Adam the next. Something like that.

In between you confirm someone as not-mafia OR give us an extra lynch (same difference) if mafia withold their kill.

It's really easy and people need to stop overcomplicating.

Agreed. I'd have to see some really convincing shit to consider you or toad scum and your plan is sound otherwise. I'll be sheeping it.

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February 01 2013 16:55 GMT

#4132

If I'm somehow alive as the only unconfirmed it means you need to figure out which confirmed it would be who really isn't (if it's not lylo I don't give a shit if I die, but I will fight tooth and nail if it gets to lylo with me unconfirmed (I really don't see that happening though). I just want us to win, so whatever gets us to that point works for me.