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On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba
If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.
If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.
Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.
I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah. Vivax wtf kind of post is this? Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise. Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate. This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you. Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me. I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?
Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] +remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town
You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats.
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On January 21 2013 13:32 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 13:31 Djodref wrote:On January 21 2013 13:03 yamato77 wrote:
Djo, Toad, Vivax all lean red.
Sandro is close to red for how lazy his scumreads are.
Five and WBG are in a similar area to Sand, but WBG looks the towniest of them all so far.
I would lynch into any of the first three. @ YamatoWhy the scum read on me ? I don't like what you're doing today. I think I've explained this read in my filter already.
I told you that the townread I gave on you was an answer to Mocsta. Also, it's pretty normal to discuss about mayor and sheriff today imo.
Anyway, regarding Clarity, he had an excuse for not participating so much the first day in LVIII (he was sick) and at that time he did already more than what he did today in this game.
He shouldn't have run for mayor if he had IRL stuff this week-end. So I'm very suspicious of his candidature.
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On January 21 2013 13:38 Mocsta wrote:@All Mayor CandidatesAre any of you willing to lynch Grush? He is my best scum read so far, and i WILL share my vote with you, if you are willing to lynch him first. His filter is full of fluff. And his response to my question is still scummy as all fuck. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:04 grush57 wrote:On January 20 2013 22:08 Mocsta wrote:On January 20 2013 13:24 grush57 wrote:
Hello everyone.
I am town.
I am running for mayor, FOR STARSENSES!
##Vote: Grush57 @Grush57.. I have a problem, and your the man to fix it. STARSENSES... Why are you unleashing your "famed" town breadcrumb so early. 1 Post in, and going for the trademark. This is scummy as fuck to me. + Show Spoiler +On January 15 2013 05:32 Promethelax wrote:But I think he is town, at first I thought the green starsenses was different than his usual bread crumb but I went and looked. LVII Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 07:28 grush57 wrote:
AWWW SHEEEEEEEEEET.
I KNOW WHY TOAD CALLED ME SCUM
I FORGOT
STARSENSES. Hero Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 06:00 grush57 wrote:
Adam, Tunkeg, Vivax and a vet is my bet on scumteam.
STARSENSES. LVIII Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 06:29 grush57 wrote:On January 05 2013 06:17 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 05 2013 06:15 grush57 wrote:
Okay I just read the thread.. I'm going to go throw a vote on Hopeless.
##Vote: Hopeless1der Comment on Palmar, Marv or BC in the meantime Palmar- He was trolling and now he is being super op scumhunter. Now he is a good player so is that necissarily town?Idk, I don't think marv is scum but palmar has been wrong every time I played with him so far. Marv- He just claimed cop, and I don't think eh should be lynched on D1. BC- He is pretty inactive but he sais he will be back soon. He is a mega vet so I don't think we should lynch him while there are other MUCH MORE SCUMNMY LURKERS LIKE YOU HOPESS Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.[ b]Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.[/b] Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.ALSO, STARSENSES so I'd say he is town. Just annoying not here town. Because people freaked out last time.
You taking something like when I say STARSENSES seriously enough to consider my reaction scummy as fuck is pretty scummy yourself.
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Btw. We are NOT putting Vivax as sheriff
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Okay, so apparently Fivetouch is making sense now.
I didn't understand him going against Oatmaster out of nowhere because of the "he defended Jiexian" thing, which doesn't make much sense to me, as it is not alignment-indicative.
I do have to agree with the things said about Oatmaster though (other than that).
On January 20 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey,Toad why are you so concerned about voting a vet as Mayor? Can you read all the vets in this game?
Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game.
Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont.
Any Questions?
On January 21 2013 08:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Your some random smurf, regardless, what sandro said was that he would be gone for 15 hours. So you need to fucking read the thread.
Vivax
I want to communicate that I am a good candidate for mayor too.
How good do you think your reads are? Isnt it a benefit for mafia if we ended up voting for you and you keep mislynching? Is anyone else that is running that you think is town and has better reads than you?
Every post of his has this "I don't give a fuck" attitude. He shows unnecessary aggression at anything at all, from random people posting to people accusing him, to even abstract concepts like a mayor election itself.
Examples of that are the bolded bits for instance. That kind of aggression comes out of nowhere and is completely unnecessary, and it serves no purpose other than showing everybody you are the "boss" or something.
I can't really see town motivation behind that.
I wouldn't mind lynching him, as I wouldn't mind lynching Stutters.
Stutters hasn't shown up yet, specially with his "catching up" post; which doesn't make things any easier.
I'm still having trouble reading sandro, now that he came back he seems way too lazy, even for a scum sandro (as I remember from Liar Game).
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On January 21 2013 13:25 Mocsta wrote:
yamato.. i have to agree with toad on this one (unfortunately)
that listing was stupid, and contains all the active vets.
your trying to canabilize active players for whatever fallacies you choose.
I am suspicious of Toads motives currently; but there are also a bunch of people who have posted SWEET FUCK ALL in over 24hrs.. How convenient that we are canibalizing....
As for oats being scum.. I said I would read his filter. When I get home from work, I will do so.
Djo's points on oats, on first glance read well... but will make up my mind after filter check.
2 of those vets are smurfing. One is WBG, a player I know to have reads different from mine almost always, so him wanting to lynch those people means little. The other, however, I don't know and doing trust.
Sandroba is noticeably different from when I played with him as town. Gone is his aggressive scum hunting, replaced by a soft, agreeable tone of uncertainty that does not belong to town Sandroba.
Toad is being Toad. He might be town, as his interaction with me is wholly unnecessary as scum, and he refuses to explain himself which is annoying, but actually a town tell when you get right down to it. I'm probably wrong about him.
Djo is neither a vet nor is he being useful with his activity. I would definitely lynch him.
Vivax I might be tunneling a bit because I saw one really scummy post and jumped. I still think his play is worth a look.
I have counts about my reads but most if the time I don't post them because there's no point in second guessing myself openly.
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I don't really agree with a prplhz lynch this D1 though.
It seems like his normal play, and I don't think there's much to go on to be sure he's scum this game. He's not the paragon of townieness but I don't remember him being so in any town game from his (granted I only obsed games he played, I don't remember playing with him I think).
There are better candidates out there.
To be honest I wouldn't mind lynching Clarity either, dude has been passive as fuck every post of his, and just straight up disappeared. I take it he wouldn't just completely go AFK as scum after posting "I'll promise you reads", and he has to vote so he has to come back and post something. I suggest we pay attention to when he does.
I am still running for mayor. I take it being sheriff wouldn't be bad, I'd still get protection so I can fuck with scum for more time and I trust myself with a JK; but I prefer to trust my judgement this D1 and lynch who I think is likelier to be scum.
If I can't be mayor...hmm, I'll have to think about it.
I think I'd prefer Toad, because I don't see him playing like TLI (was it?) at all and seems the most likely one to be town. Plus he's making sense and active and that shit.
Fivetouch is making sense, but I'm not sure I trust him to be town yet.
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On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba
If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.
If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.
Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.
I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah. Vivax wtf kind of post is this? Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise. Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate. This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you. Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me. I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time. Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor? Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours? Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills. Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia? Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] +remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town to stay in the open, getting heat from everyone and do all that on purpose? You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats.
It's a "too stupid to be scum" defense I guess.
Though I thought the same thing about him on Day 1 of YANMM when I thought he was being scummy, so I ignored him then. He was attacking people on Wiggles' wagon and posting really dumb attacks on me for doing townie things. I can see how some if that could be surfacing this game, just manifesting in his stupid post there, and his OMGUS of me that made zero sense and felt like desperation,
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Chez who are your scumreads after prplhz?
The Brown Brotherhood needs to put on it's thinking caps
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On January 21 2013 13:42 yamato77 wrote:
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Djo is neither a vet nor is he being useful with his activity. I would definitely lynch him.
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So do you want to lynch me because I'm useless or because I'm scum ?
What do you make a my last post about Oats ?
+ Show Spoiler [here] +On January 21 2013 12:43 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:On January 21 2013 12:18 Djodref wrote:But I think we should privilege a player looking obviously town than a good player for sheriff. Hence my candidature  Noted that you followed up on Clarity not once, but twice. Please indulge your scum read/lynch candidate if you were instated. I would like to see some detailed insight too pls. As stated before, I would like to lynch Clarity. Because he is running for mayor, but has failed to provide any post with content so far, and that really doesn't look like town Clarity. Also, I could lynch debears for not spamming the thread as usual when he is town. Regarding Oats, I agree with the scumread on him by other players. Some things tipped me off in his filter. Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey,Toad why are you so concerned about voting a vet as Mayor? Can you read all the vets in this game?
Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game.
Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont.
Any Questions? Let's take a look at his opening post. He announces that he is not going to run, but asks if anyone has questions for him. Why would he think that people would interrogate him about his opening post ? It could be self-guiltiness here. Also his posts are lacking of content. For example, his call to the lurkers is quite useless. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Got sniped by yamato, URGH.
Grush,
Mkfuba,
Jiexian
Annul.
Where did you guys go??
Especially Annul. Pops in, posts random shit and fucks off.
I also don't like his reaction when Toad said he could be a good lynch. I'm expecting town Oats to be more aggressive, but his reaction here is quite passive. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Toad
Reasoning for lynching me
Oats looks like a decent lynch
uhuh. Besides that post, you havent mentioned scum at all.
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Yamato, the chances of Vivax being scum are kind of low I think. He's had a LOT of posts, even more than when he was town in games like Can't Believe and the like. Also seems too confident to be scum.
At worst let him be for a few days, if he's scum he'll surely "break" and go lurking or something.
Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1.
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Djoref, what do you think of Stutters? I didn't really notice you mentioning him that much.
Also, do you think Clarity has more chances of flipping scum than Oats or Stutters or maybe even sandro, etc?
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On January 21 2013 13:51 gonzaw wrote:
Yamato, the chances of Vivax being scum are kind of low I think. He's had a LOT of posts, even more than when he was town in games like Can't Believe and the like. Also seems too confident to be scum.
At worst let him be for a few days, if he's scum he'll surely "break" and go lurking or something.
Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1.
Debears is being weird, I agree, but he's been weird for a few games now so I don't know what to make of it yet.
Grush is always like this IIRC.
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I only remember debears claiming SK on that other game, I don't remember any other games from his. Does he act like this as scum (troll and not give a shit about anything)? He has his previous games in his profile so I'll go check some of those
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On January 21 2013 13:50 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 13:42 yamato77 wrote:
[<snip>
Djo is neither a vet nor is he being useful with his activity. I would definitely lynch him.
<snip> So do you want to lynch me because I'm useless or because I'm scum ? What do you make a my last post about Oats ? + Show Spoiler [here] +On January 21 2013 12:43 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:On January 21 2013 12:18 Djodref wrote:But I think we should privilege a player looking obviously town than a good player for sheriff. Hence my candidature Noted that you followed up on Clarity not once, but twice. Please indulge your scum read/lynch candidate if you were instated. I would like to see some detailed insight too pls. As stated before, I would like to lynch Clarity. Because he is running for mayor, but has failed to provide any post with content so far, and that really doesn't look like town Clarity. Also, I could lynch debears for not spamming the thread as usual when he is town. Regarding Oats, I agree with the scumread on him by other players. Some things tipped me off in his filter. Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey,Toad why are you so concerned about voting a vet as Mayor? Can you read all the vets in this game?
Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game.
Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont.
Any Questions? Let's take a look at his opening post. He announces that he is not going to run, but asks if anyone has questions for him. Why would he think that people would interrogate him about his opening post ? It could be self-guiltiness here. Also his posts are lacking of content. For example, his call to the lurkers is quite useless. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Got sniped by yamato, URGH.
Grush,
Mkfuba,
Jiexian
Annul.
Where did you guys go??
Especially Annul. Pops in, posts random shit and fucks off.
I also don't like his reaction when Toad said he could be a good lynch. I'm expecting town Oats to be more aggressive, but his reaction here is quite passive. Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Toad
Reasoning for lynching me
Oats looks like a decent lynch
uhuh. Besides that post, you havent mentioned scum at all.
Why do you care so much about my scum read on you?
I have said what I think about Oats. You making a case on him after everyone else calls him scum doesn't make me see you any townier.
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On January 21 2013 13:55 gonzaw wrote:
I only remember debears claiming SK on that other game, I don't remember any other games from his. Does he act like this as scum (troll and not give a shit about anything)? He has his previous games in his profile so I'll go check some of those
He kind of did this early in LVIII. Though later it got a lot better, so time will tell with him I suppose.
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On January 21 2013 13:51 gonzaw wrote:
Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1.
Awesome next time i roll scum. I can troll and post fluff. Knowing im safe to day2 guaranteed.
Cheers...
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Damn phone. Didnt see blindly lynch.
K sorry for sarcasm
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On January 21 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 13:51 gonzaw wrote:
Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1. Awesome next time i roll scum. I can troll and post fluff. Knowing im safe to day2 guaranteed. Cheers...
The problem is that this is a mayor lynch, not a normal lynch.
If you do that on a normal game you wouldn't survive at all because everybody would be on your back and vote for you.
Here only 1 guy decides the lynch, and to him alone it is just based on his judgement alone, even if other people agree with him or not. That "trolly" behaviour alone may or may not be enough for a sole guy to lynch you.
It certainly is not for me, at least regarding debears and grush which I remember kind of play like this in some games (don't really remember much though).
I think the way to handle "lurkers" and "trollers" is obviously different this D1 than a normal D1.
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Mocsta would you rather lynch someone who is acting scummy or someone who posted "fluff".
People are discussing lynching me and if no one was scummy then I would definitely get lynched.
I just hate day1
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