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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 06:17 GMT
#2441
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.


Gonzaw just flipped mafia mason. Yeah there can be multiple masons but with 5 mafias in a 22 player game, with mafia having a jack as well I really doubt it.

On top of that mafia can choose who ends up being what role for them. Here's a bunch of questions:

Do you think they would give Grush that role? (okay... wifom)
If he's a mafia he got in his QT telling people "DUDES I TOTALLY WANT TO BE A MASON" because he masoned early. Do you think he'd get in a game with that attitude as mafia and then just not use his mason powers as all? I mean look at the "conversation" lol.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 25 2013 06:18 GMT
#2442
On January 25 2013 15:10 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:07 DearestSnot wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.


I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you

Are you a detective?


no, are you?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 25 2013 06:19 GMT
#2443
On January 25 2013 14:55 DearestSnot wrote:
I'd like to hear from anyone who wants to speak with me.

Talk to me.

Mocsta, interested?

Talk to me about who can be scum in your opinion and why. Perhaps even who can't.

In WBG's advice corner for tonight, remember that at this stage of the game, townreads can be just as useful, if not even more useful, than scumreads. Perhaps it's best to keep those to ourselves for now, though. Happy scumhunting!

My heads in work right now (some major shit happened) but to promote some discussion this is the best I can do right now.
  • Well kinda like Gonzaw I like the way BKE writes, just connects with me for whatever reason. But int he end the actions BKE has taken, even after starting to post more, have not really contributed to anything.

    He has been "active" for over 24hrs, so I expect him to be up to date with the thread but isnt.

  • Still whats your take on AxleGreaser? He has really fallen off the charts. When he posted yesterday he made an excuse for not being around, was something emotional IIRC.

  • hmm DeBears, from memory he doesnt post often but when he does its only regarding his agenda. im finding him forgettable.

  • Stutters is the same. Im finding him forgettable too.


Will prob take you up on this offer later tonight when I have a chance to clear my head.



annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 25 2013 06:20 GMT
#2444
On January 25 2013 12:35 debears wrote:
5touch I have to talk to you about said mason and figure out whether he contacted you already or not and why he masoned me

I will think of encryption


encryption is illegal btw dont do it
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 25 2013 06:21 GMT
#2445
I guess its more likely that grush is town cause I could see myself and by extension, grush, just masoning a player at the start of the game and forgetting about it. Damn.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 25 2013 06:21 GMT
#2446
On January 25 2013 15:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.


Gonzaw just flipped mafia mason. Yeah there can be multiple masons but with 5 mafias in a 22 player game, with mafia having a jack as well I really doubt it.

On top of that mafia can choose who ends up being what role for them. Here's a bunch of questions:

Do you think they would give Grush that role? (okay... wifom)
If he's a mafia he got in his QT telling people "DUDES I TOTALLY WANT TO BE A MASON" because he masoned early. Do you think he'd get in a game with that attitude as mafia and then just not use his mason powers as all? I mean look at the "conversation" lol.


Damn it.. thats actually compelling.

so...STARSENSES was true again

FFS
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 25 2013 06:22 GMT
#2447
On January 25 2013 14:55 DearestSnot wrote:
I'd like to hear from anyone who wants to speak with me.

Talk to me.

Mocsta, interested?

Talk to me about who can be scum in your opinion and why. Perhaps even who can't.

In WBG's advice corner for tonight, remember that at this stage of the game, townreads can be just as useful, if not even more useful, than scumreads. Perhaps it's best to keep those to ourselves for now, though. Happy scumhunting!

debears, though that idea is kind of weak admittedly. I've given my reasoning for this.

Vivax, again farfetched but he's been so wrong on everyone he didn't have a red check on it's mind boggling. There's a lot of things that he's doing that make zero sense to me but unless I feel there's a reason to doubt his claim I am willing to ignore him for now. I should, as FT suggests, not entertain his suspicions.

Chez, maybe, no way to know.

Grush, perhaps, but again there's very little to say either way, though his breadcrumb is a strong indicator to me

Austin maybe, because he did provide some resistance to the gonzaw lynch. Mafia may have figured out that being on the gonzaw wagon that late could be even worse than not being on it at all, and what the heck, why not try to save him if possible?

Annul is really scummy to me, as is BKE. They'll be getting my votes tomorrow. Aside from a few town tells you guys see in Annul I don't see any disagreement with this idea.

Fuba I actually lean town on, but that's a weak read.

Oats, Mocsta, Stutters, Toad, WBG, FT all as green to me, for varying reasons.

Clarity/Adam, I hope is town. We'll see. Sorry for being a dick earlier, I am extremely tired and was frustrated at this game.

Whatcha think about them reads, bro?
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 25 2013 06:23 GMT
#2448
On January 25 2013 15:21 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.


Gonzaw just flipped mafia mason. Yeah there can be multiple masons but with 5 mafias in a 22 player game, with mafia having a jack as well I really doubt it.

On top of that mafia can choose who ends up being what role for them. Here's a bunch of questions:

Do you think they would give Grush that role? (okay... wifom)
If he's a mafia he got in his QT telling people "DUDES I TOTALLY WANT TO BE A MASON" because he masoned early. Do you think he'd get in a game with that attitude as mafia and then just not use his mason powers as all? I mean look at the "conversation" lol.


Damn it.. thats actually compelling.

so...STARSENSES was true again

FFS

Im not fully sold on the guy though , but what you did present was compelling.

The guy has made an effort not to get modkilled, but has done sweet fuck all.

i havnt played with him before.. maybe this is his style IDK, but AFAIK he is optimal lurking.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 25 2013 06:25 GMT
#2449
Yamato
curious what makes stutters confirmed townie for u

did i miss something?

Also, could u check on teh previous page, I had some questions regarding Chez directed to u. (mroe out of curiosity)
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 25 2013 06:27 GMT
#2450
He's playing exactly like the town Stutters from YAN.

If you haven't yet, read his filter in that game. It's like a carbon copy.
Writer@WriterYamato
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 25 2013 06:27 GMT
#2451
should I do a "this is where we are right now" kind of post?

Because basically I have absolutely no problem with outting every single read of mine on every single player, but I don't want to taint everyone else's reads. Basically if I'm wrong anywhere I don't want people sheeping me; different perspectives are useful, and I'm asking people to name these reads so I can see what you guys think before I just flood the thread with what I think could be game-breaking reads if they are 100% correct.

I need to be absolutely sure of almost everything though. At the moment I'm like...95-97% sure of everything. There's a few tiny holes but honestly...I don't see us losing by basically just taking a list of 6-7 players and lynching them indiscriminately.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 06:29 GMT
#2452
On January 25 2013 15:27 DearestSnot wrote:
should I do a "this is where we are right now" kind of post?

Because basically I have absolutely no problem with outting every single read of mine on every single player, but I don't want to taint everyone else's reads. Basically if I'm wrong anywhere I don't want people sheeping me; different perspectives are useful, and I'm asking people to name these reads so I can see what you guys think before I just flood the thread with what I think could be game-breaking reads if they are 100% correct.

I need to be absolutely sure of almost everything though. At the moment I'm like...95-97% sure of everything. There's a few tiny holes but honestly...I don't see us losing by basically just taking a list of 6-7 players and lynching them indiscriminately.

yeah same here.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 06:29 GMT
#2453
On January 25 2013 15:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:27 DearestSnot wrote:
should I do a "this is where we are right now" kind of post?

Because basically I have absolutely no problem with outting every single read of mine on every single player, but I don't want to taint everyone else's reads. Basically if I'm wrong anywhere I don't want people sheeping me; different perspectives are useful, and I'm asking people to name these reads so I can see what you guys think before I just flood the thread with what I think could be game-breaking reads if they are 100% correct.

I need to be absolutely sure of almost everything though. At the moment I'm like...95-97% sure of everything. There's a few tiny holes but honestly...I don't see us losing by basically just taking a list of 6-7 players and lynching them indiscriminately.

yeah same here.

just that I'd make it even more extreme than you worded it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 25 2013 06:31 GMT
#2454
On January 25 2013 15:18 DearestSnot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:10 Chezinu wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:07 DearestSnot wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.


I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you

Are you a detective?


no, are you?

Some people called me a mad detective in the past.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 25 2013 06:32 GMT
#2455
Well people aren't going to sheep me and mafia isn't going to shoot someone they weren't going to before just because I have a town read on them so I did it already.

That is the only group of people I think is worth lynching into at all, unless something drastic happens.
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 06:32 GMT
#2456
I guess there's no reason to post it right now. We can both post our reads at deadline and see where we disagree and for what reason although I doubt you're stupid enough to not have this game figured out 99% by now bugs :p

Don't feel like editing out info I shouldn't post right now in my sheet...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 25 2013 06:35 GMT
#2457
On January 25 2013 15:31 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:18 DearestSnot wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:10 Chezinu wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:07 DearestSnot wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.


I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you

Are you a detective?


no, are you?

Some people called me a mad detective in the past.


humour me, Chezinu.

Who is scum?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 25 2013 06:36 GMT
#2458
[fluff]

After this game I would love to know how u guys make notes etc

i just read the thread, and get a gut feeling.. if i dont like someone, i read the filter and then makes notes as im reading the filter

you guys seem to make notes as you read the thread; and seem to have detailed noted on all players

is that correct?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 25 2013 06:39 GMT
#2459
On January 25 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
[fluff]

After this game I would love to know how u guys make notes etc

i just read the thread, and get a gut feeling.. if i dont like someone, i read the filter and then makes notes as im reading the filter

you guys seem to make notes as you read the thread; and seem to have detailed noted on all players

is that correct?

You want to know things like who each person was suspicious of, whether you thought that was reasonable or justified, and who the person wanted to lynch, didnt want to lynch, when they did what they did, etc.

It doesn't hurt to at least have a document where you keep track of your reads and have some justifications for it.
Writer@WriterYamato
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 25 2013 06:40 GMT
#2460
On January 25 2013 15:22 yamato77 wrote:

Clarity/Adam, I hope is town. We'll see. Sorry for being a dick earlier, I am extremely tired and was frustrated at this game.


No problem. Frustration shows you give a shit. Its a good thing.


On January 25 2013 15:27 DearestSnot wrote:
should I do a "this is where we are right now" kind of post?

Because basically I have absolutely no problem with outting every single read of mine on every single player, but I don't want to taint everyone else's reads. Basically if I'm wrong anywhere I don't want people sheeping me; different perspectives are useful, and I'm asking people to name these reads so I can see what you guys think before I just flood the thread with what I think could be game-breaking reads if they are 100% correct.

I need to be absolutely sure of almost everything though. At the moment I'm like...95-97% sure of everything. There's a few tiny holes but honestly...I don't see us losing by basically just taking a list of 6-7 players and lynching them indiscriminately.


I intend to do something similar when I eventually catch up. I'm currently on page 30, I hope to be caught up by before midnight KST (like 8 or so hours from now), then Ill lay all my cards on the table so you can see where my heads at.

By all means, post your reads when you feel comfortable doing so. Ill read them and comment when I get caught up to current.
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