On January 25 2013 12:42 DearestSnot wrote: Why is BKE so focused on speaking on behalf of Chezinu? Literally 3/4 of his filter is talking about the vote business.
Cause we are/were having a discussion about whether or not scum tried to get Gonzaw elected. There are things that Chezinu has said already, to indicate that his vote switching was not indicative of a scum sheriff push. I'm seeing you put scenarios out there, that are as likely as they are not likely(50/50 chance), which is basically WIFOM.
yet you are not interested in any sort of other discussion, i.e. posing alternatives to my ideas.
All you do is shoot them down, instead of coming forth with people you actually think are scum.
Nice try bro, you're doing the same exact thing as the two guys who flipped scum before you.
After going through Yamato filter. I think he is town.
He has been an active participant in town discussion, and even built a decent profile on why he thought Gonzaw was scum (which came about way before Vivax released the DT check info).
@Yamato77 I would like to know some insight into why you were keen on Chezinu. I didnt think it was clear from your filter; and you have continued to defend him past Day 1.
On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote: You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate.
On January 21 2013 09:34 yamato77 wrote: You have yet to address any of that. All you did was repeat yourself and do all of it some more. Another silly justification for voting Sandroba. Another attack on Chezinu.
On January 21 2013 09:41 yamato77 wrote: The main thing is that I don't think Chez is trying to be unreadable this game.
Most games he is trying to be that way because he doesn't want mafia to shoot him, but this game he seems to be playing straight up which makes him way easier to read and understand.
So the attack is baseless and scummy to make. Chez is not a bad candidate for mayor.
Whats interesting here you recognise the divergence in standard play.. is there not the possibility he doesnt have to worry about mafia KP, because he could be mafia?
On January 21 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote: I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth. Comprende, hombre?
On January 21 2013 11:51 yamato77 wrote: The only people I'm interested in voting for are Austin, Gonzaw, Chezinu, and maybe FiveTouch (but he's a special case).
I am not voting for Vivax, Toad, Djo, or any other random person running.
On January 23 2013 00:47 yamato77 wrote: The question is, why do you think Chez might be scum?
I don't.
Please explain why? Chezinu barely contributed and you have a "not scum" read?
On January 25 2013 13:26 FiveTouch wrote: I pretty much agree with everything you say on BKE and Chezinu there. fuba? You might be correct, but I have him lightly town for the fact that he supported me killing prplhz on Day 1. He simply didn't have to do that. And I know he's an intelligent enough guy not to do such things just because.
For what it's worth, my two comments on him in my notes read, from Day 1: "even less content than usual. but voted me wanting to kill prplhz. could easily have kept his vote on austin or elsewhere." and Day 2: "nothing i wouldn't expect him to do as town"
It's possible that I'm wrong on him, but there's a couple of other players I'd look at first.
yeah pretty much that.
On a sidenote now that we've got 2 mafias down: I will jail offensivly tonight. No need to protect Vivax if you're a medic. That guy is going to get roleblocked into eternity, assuming mafia has a RB and mafia ALWAYS has a RB. There's other people that are better of protected and I'm trusting your judgement on that one.
I'm still considering to jail Vivax isntead of an offensive jail because he's going to get RB'ed anyways and maybe mafias shoots him after all but I doubt it's going to happen.
Repeat: I will most likely not use my powers to protect someone or safe Vivax. Your call to what to do if you're a medic.
On January 25 2013 12:42 DearestSnot wrote: Why is BKE so focused on speaking on behalf of Chezinu? Literally 3/4 of his filter is talking about the vote business.
Cause we are/were having a discussion about whether or not scum tried to get Gonzaw elected. There are things that Chezinu has said already, to indicate that his vote switching was not indicative of a scum sheriff push. I'm seeing you put scenarios out there, that are as likely as they are not likely(50/50 chance), which is basically WIFOM.
yet you are not interested in any sort of other discussion, i.e. posing alternatives to my ideas.
All you do is shoot them down, instead of coming forth with people you actually think are scum.
Nice try bro, you're doing the same exact thing as the two guys who flipped scum before you.
Fair, I'll reevaluate my scum reads (given that one is totally wrong XD), and get a better alt.
EBWOP god it's early. Made perfect sense in german, but not so much in english :p
On January 25 2013 13:43 Toadesstern wrote: [...] Repeat: I will most likely not use my powers to protect someone unless maybe Vivax. Your call what to do if you're a medic.
On January 25 2013 10:12 Vivax wrote: So, two out of FT/Toad/austin/Mocsta have to be town.
Just...who is it?
You perfectly explain that everyone out of those (besides austin) has to be town over here:
On January 25 2013 09:51 Vivax wrote: I'll give you an example of a "townslip" :
I thought gonzaw was a "Jack Mason" in the meaning that his currently selected power is mason. That's why I started speculating about him being vig yesterday and mason today. I wouldn't have said these things if I was scum, cause I would have known how things work. If you think I "built them in" in the hope that someone would see this as a townslip, then you overestimate both me and this town.
That's why you have to look at the people who seemed to know how things worked on the mafia side. You will most likely find them in the moments after my claim.
and yet you're claiming the opposite. wtf are you doing.
I don't really care. At this point we have 5 people who aren't confirmed town. Out of those 5 people 3 are mafia. Chez and BKE with almost 100% certainty (hinthint: I was pushing for BKE yesterday instead of lynching oats, Bugs was pushing for Chez instead of oats, FT lynched prplhz d1, mocsta knows his shit).
I exagerated a little when I said everyone but 5 people is confirmed. In reality only half the game is confirmed town by now but you're still looking very much townish. Just not confirmed.
On January 25 2013 14:29 Toadesstern wrote: I exagerated a little when I said everyone but 5 people is confirmed. In reality only half the game is confirmed town by now but you're still looking very much townish. Just not confirmed.
The statement still holds true. Everyone but 5 people is either confirmed town or looking really townish.
I'd like to hear from anyone who wants to speak with me.
Talk to me.
Mocsta, interested?
Talk to me about who can be scum in your opinion and why. Perhaps even who can't.
In WBG's advice corner for tonight, remember that at this stage of the game, townreads can be just as useful, if not even more useful, than scumreads. Perhaps it's best to keep those to ourselves for now, though. Happy scumhunting!
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok WBG, I think grush could be scum. Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.
I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok WBG, I think grush could be scum. Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.
I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you
On January 25 2013 06:27 austinmcc wrote: annul, you looked more towny in my eyes for continuing to ask anyone masoned by Gonzaw to come forward.
Then I look and your vote is on Gonzaw...
i went to sleep after i asked that question. you can check #tlmafia logs for when i log on and log off. it is always consistent with when i stop and start paying attention to mafia games. at this point in the game i am still on page 114 catching up so perhaps this post will be irrelevant when i get caught up.
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok WBG, I think grush could be scum. Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.
I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you
On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok WBG, I think grush could be scum. Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato.
I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you
STARSENSES!
Do you know what happened to the last person who said that?
EPT
