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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 15:42 GMT
#355
On January 31 2013 00:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I warned that this would basically take over D2, and it has. Good job guys.


If we lynch scum day 2, then it was a very worthwhile day...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 15:43 GMT
#356
On January 31 2013 00:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 00:24 zarepath wrote:
More scummy in this post is something that he also did on Day 1 -- couch his decisions with town reads on other people. He's not just unvoting because Corazon thinks it's bad policy, but because Zarepath also told him to, and Zarepath is town.


I just want to highlight the third-person town claim by Zare.


Not really, he was outlining the decision process and specifying that WB's decision hinged on WB's perception of zare as town
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 17:29 GMT
#360
Going through some more filters, and it occurs to me that zarepath has recieved an unbelievably easy free ride without posting much. I mean, yes he just posted 2 big analysis posts but one is on warbaby (easy target we all want to lynch atm anyways) and one is a pretty weak case on Cora (who is pretty clearly town imo).

I'm not saying he is scum, but if he is he is having the easiest game of his life, while every so often popping in to toss out an easy post without any real goal. There isn't any fire in him to kill scum.

His filter is decently short, if anybody wants to go have a quick read.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 17:46 GMT
#362
I wasn't really interested in YOUR opinion of yourself zare

Glurio has been mentioned before, and while admittedly he isn't the most brilliant scumhunter my read on him is the noob town read, where he tries but really is pretty clueless. I don't really see any scum motivation there.

Slayalot is admittedly getting it pretty easy (especially from Warbaby o.O) but they have at least been mentioned. I'll prolly scroll through their filter again. For some reason I keep wanting to use female pronouns to describe slayalot (teacher gender-bias maybe? dunno).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:01 GMT
#363
Okay slayalot has a fantastically short filter o.O

The scumteam could easily be like Slayalot/Cakepie and we would never know because they essentially don't post...

Yuck.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:16 GMT
#368
At this point the game is getting so confused.

I'm less sure that warbaby is scum, although his play is pretty hard to explain. I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game. Plus there is still a better chance of him flipping scum than anybody else right now.

My worry is if WB flips town, then we have no leads (acid still doesn't seem scummy, just annoying atm) and not much time.

Another part of me wants to lynch CakePie since he has quite simply posted essentially nothing. The classic lurker lynch. While I know he doesn't have a ton of time blah blah blah, all he has done is a tiny bit of setup discussion. Thats it. 1 post worth the name. Admittedly he hasn't even had 48 hours to contribute, but he has had long enough to do more than 1 post.

Oh yeah,

If we could get a votecount as well as updated OP with flips and Cakepie that would be awesome thanks
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:20 GMT
#373
On January 31 2013 03:18 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game.


When you see my flip, should I be mislynched tonight, it will blow your mind. Guaranteed. And then you will realize you should have kept me in the game.


If you wish to make a doctor claim, I'm all ears.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:25 GMT
#378
On January 31 2013 03:20 warbaby wrote:
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On January 31 2013 03:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 31 2013 03:18 warbaby wrote:
On January 31 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:I still feel like killing him will be the easiest way to bring clarity to the game.


When you see my flip, should I be mislynched tonight, it will blow your mind. Guaranteed. And then you will realize you should have kept me in the game.


If you wish to make a doctor claim, I'm all ears.


Not yet, hun. We're still too far from deadline.


Time to deadline isn't terribly relevant during the day. Blue claims at night need to be right up on the deadline to ensure that the NK doesn't change to get the blue. Blue claims during the day should be early in the day so that they can be fairly examined and accounted for. Unless you wish to make the blue-claim last minute so that nobody can dispute it... which sounds pretty scummy.

I think it is already decently clear that you will get lynched today without a blueclaim and proof (although the requested votecount should clear that up).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:33 GMT
#381
On January 31 2013 03:30 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:25 Acid~ wrote:

Why did you not urge town to take their vote off SkaPunk when you did? You said you switched because you had a town read on him. You had been leading town all day, why did not lead town away from what you thought would be a mislynch?

You've been dodging this question all day.


I never said I swtiched from Ska because I had a town read on him. I voted for Ska in the first place to pressure him into posting. It didn't work. I thought maybe there was some >0% chance pressuring someone else to post would work.

Imagine I am the doctor. The doctor NEEDS to make town reads to be an effective doctor (unlike a VT who only really needs to make scum reads). Does that help you understand my play?


Soft roleclaims like this only get you NK'd if you are actually blue (looking highly unlikely at this stage).

You actually did say something about a weak town read on SkaPunk, tbh. Hell, I'll dig it out:

On January 28 2013 08:35 warbaby wrote:
If SkaPunk's single post was a scum trying to blend in then he's the worst scum ever. My (very weak) read on him is that he's town

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:34 GMT
#383
EBWOP:

Soft roleclaims like this only get you NK'd without actually helping town if you are actually blue.

The help to town only comes post-flip which is too late.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:36 GMT
#386
On January 31 2013 03:34 warbaby wrote:
That's not the reason I switched my vote from him.


The argument is that if you have a weak town read on ska, you would defend him more, no matter how weak the read was.

Why, if you think he was town, did you not make any kind of post trying to save him?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:40 GMT
#389
On January 31 2013 03:36 warbaby wrote:
If I'm alive at the start of D3 I'll consider claiming, if I still have no useful scum reads.


IF you are town AND alive at the start of D3 (and we mislynch somebody, plus doctor misses a save), we will be in MYLO (mis-lynch loses). In that case, a blue claim wouldn't be something you would "consider" it would be straight up REQUIRED (if you were blue).

Something gives here. You are NOT blue, and you are soft-claiming to get us off of you. It looks scummy as hell and I'm getting progressively less likely to switch off of you.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:46 GMT
#393
On January 31 2013 03:44 zarepath wrote:
Stalling to blue claim until just before lynch makes it seem as though you're hoping there's no time for a counterclaim.

If you role claim any later than the next hour or so, I'm going to ignore any further role claims from you. You're in no position to be a tease about this.


Thats pretty much exactly what I said.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 18:50 GMT
#396
Your Grave = dug, warbaby.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 19:03 GMT
#399
Well, first off, if you are feeling sick I recommend doing everything in your power to get better. Forum mafia is pretty irrelevant compared to real life health problems.

That out of the way, don't fake a blueclaim then fail to back it up. Its suicide. I'll admit we might not be giving you a fair chance at other things.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 19:12 GMT
#404
On January 31 2013 04:07 warbaby wrote:
I tried to hunt scum, and you guys went all Spanish Inquisition on my ass. I still tried to hunt scum, while explaining my actions, since you guys were grilling me so hard I figured you must really not get it.

What the fuck else am I supposed to do? I'm not SkaPunk's defense attorney.


The quality of the scumhunting was, in our opinion, questionable.

It certainly isn't helping your cause that there are still 2 ultra-low content posters in this game, which kinda make it both hard for you to scumhunt and at the same time focus a lot of attention on you, but I still think you are scum so we are gonna let the flip decide. I do feel bad because the vibe that I get from you right now is that this is causing you legitimate distress, which really isn't the point of forum mafia, especially when you are sick.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 19:15 GMT
#405
If you wish to roleclaim to avoid being mislynched, then roleclaim.

A soft roleclaim that is then backed off of is simply a scumclaim not a roleclaim.

You essentially claimed doctor, but refused to come out with it. Not good enough. Until you actually make a real blue claim, with good points, your actions look scummy.

My point about WHEN to roleclaim is merely that a last-second roleclaim is less helpful to town than a roleclaim now, so why postpone it as town?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 20:05 GMT
#410
On January 31 2013 04:55 Acid~ wrote:
Maybe it's confirmation bias, but warbaby's whole soft-claim thing reads to me like an attempt to bait the real doc into claiming so they can secure a night kill.


Quite possible. The doctor can't self-protect, unfortunately. In fact, that is a very good point.

Alright, @ the real doctor: DO NOT CLAIM. Even if warbaby claims, do not counter. He will even know who you protected last night, if he is scum.

@warbaby; we already established that it is very very likely scum did do an action last night, since everybody save cakepie was around Night 1. And not doing an action is pretty silly in a scum game. This speculation doesn't look good.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 20:17 GMT
#412
Ur not the real doctor ur scum.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2013 20:54 GMT
#416
The whole doctor stuff is a straight up scumclaim as far as I'm concerned. The only confusing part is why he didn't FULLY claim doctor, but I guess he was somewhat afraid of getting called out? I'm really not sure.
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