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On January 08 2013 13:49 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 13:44 jaybrundage wrote:On January 08 2013 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:
So yeah. At this point I probably want to lynch jay.
His behaviour towards me is directly correlated to the consensus of the thread. He starts off heaping shit on me when the whole town is sheeping hapa day one and I am universally unpopular.
Then when everyone calls me town he still maintains suspicion of me publicly. HOWEVER he did nothing to back up that suspicion, barely interacted with me and has seemingly forgotten his suspicions of me without a reasonable explanation why. Townies do not let scum reads just drop off the face of the earth without reason.
##Vote Jay Yes I Sheeped Hapa in that moment, as did most of the thread on his case on you. Then Hapa turned around and gave you a town read. He explained his thought process a bit but i wasnt quite convinced. Why is it wrong to not go with everyones reads. I see nothing wrong with being suspicious of you. Would you pref i just sheep whatever the fuck hapa is saying. I then asked him again how many games he played with you has he been able to read you well before and he gave me two instances when he correctly read you as town. So with the new information i decided that I could change my read on you as scum to leaning townie. I didn't just drop my scummy read. I looked at new information presented and changed it accordingly. I believe you do the same. Yeah but you never informed anyone of your change of read. It was DP still scummy yo. To DP is townie now. So what you are saying is that you sheeped hapa when you thought I was scummy and sheeped hapa now you think I am townie. I wish people would stop sheeping hapa.
Why the hell would. I personally feel that its not neccessary to share town reads as it gives mafia easier targets to shoot.
Go reread my filter. It wasn't as night is to day. It was me seeing hapa's experience with you as town asking him more questions if he actually could do a decent job determining your alignment.
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On January 08 2013 13:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay,
You seem not to care whether you lynch town or scum. What gives? You made that comment about lynching a detrimental townie to me, now you think shaiopi would be a good lynch whether hes scum or town.
Also, you've been very inactive / not involved in the thread as well. Why are you in favor of a SP lynch?
I never said he would be a good lynch if hes town. I said his inactivity hurts us whether hes scum or town.
In the end I can never know for sure if you, ShaioPi, ZBoson, Zentor or anyone else for that matter is town or scum. However if ShaioPi looks scummy then we should by all means lynch him.
So far he hasn't given us much content to go off and determine his alignment. I dont want him at LYLO because if he stays at this post rate we still wont have much to go on.
I have been a bit inactive I find it hard to continually post content. Also it find it difficult to continue to contributing when my best scum read is still alive. I had this same problem before with kata in one of my past games I got to tunneled on her and didn't branch out on other people.
CC whos your biggest scum read atm?
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On January 08 2013 14:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 14:00 jaybrundage wrote:On January 08 2013 13:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay,
You seem not to care whether you lynch town or scum. What gives? You made that comment about lynching a detrimental townie to me, now you think shaiopi would be a good lynch whether hes scum or town.
Also, you've been very inactive / not involved in the thread as well. Why are you in favor of a SP lynch? I never said he would be a good lynch if hes town. I said his inactivity hurts us whether hes scum or town. In the end I can never know for sure if you, ShaioPi, ZBoson, Zentor or anyone else for that matter is town or scum. However if ShaioPi looks scummy then we should by all means lynch him. So far he hasn't given us much content to go off and determine his alignment. I dont want him at LYLO because if he stays at this post rate we still wont have much to go on. I have been a bit inactive I find it hard to continually post content. Also it find it difficult to continue to contributing when my best scum read is still alive. I had this same problem before with kata in one of my past games I got to tunneled on her and didn't branch out on other people. CC whos your biggest scum read atm? You said you would be down for his lynch. How does he look scummy with the exception of lurking? What makes him have a good chance of flipping scum?
Well lets see here he was on a Mislynch could be null tell could be scummy.
I posted a case on him earlier that i thought he was scummy. He has done nothing to change my read of him. Do you think that he has done anything townie?
I Think your im scummy tunnel me shit is stupid as fuck. I would say that I think that Yamato just sounds like a frustrated townie still. He's trying to give his read, and hapa is busy defending you who the fuck knows why I think he should let you defend yourself, If you do it properly at least. Instead of this im scummy tunnel me bullshit thats not helping anyone.
I dont like that Hapa is so confident your town. Now your scum reads plz
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Hapa I do care about who wants to get lynched. But The last 3 days or so my biggest scum read has been CC and your have done a great job of making sure that goes no where.
I was not happy at what Zentor and Yamato. And i was posting when i was kinda pissed. Scummy wasnt the right word to use tho. I think Dumb as fuck or really stupid, or anti town would all of sufficed better. I still am Null on those players. Leaning town a bit based on what people have said about Zentor's meta and how you guys have a good read on him. Similar to how i deferred to your experience with DP for a read.
I have been trying to expand my scum reads more tho cause this CC lynch doesnt look like its gonna happen unless you change your mind about him. What if you were in my position. If you had someone that you thought was scum. But the town refused to lynch him. Even had players HARD defending him. Its kind of frustrating.
Z-Boson was more of a gut thing I had the same premonition last game with him and I was right he was scum. So I thought i would throw it out there as opposed to sitting on the information.
Also at the top of your post you say its a push.... Its not a push its giving my consent to a lynch that your pushing. I havent made a real case yet since my last one on cc. But its wierd as well. Before most towns were very case orientated. This town not so much.
Anyway If ShaioPi starts shitting town vibes and rainbows whats your next scum read?
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Also I noticed something about my town play. This is bad btw. I almost feel ashamed to admit it. But when I dont have much suspicion on me I kinda die in activity. So Hapa just prod me if i start becoming inactive.
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On January 08 2013 14:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Will post more tomorrow. It's like 1am. Have work etc so ill check game during my lunch break and continue posting afterwards. We have plenty of time, dont lynch anybody.
You dodged my question about yoru sucm reads T_T
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On January 08 2013 15:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Jay from these latest post you have made it perfectly clear that you don't care if we lynch town. You are scum. Let's do this thing.
I have made it clear huh. Well that sucks i just thought i was getting good at mafia. But looks like im still bad at showing to town that im town 
Why do you say that?
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@Hapa Im not abandoning my read. I do plan to not get tunnel vision and pursue it to the exclusion of all else
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On January 08 2013 16:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 15:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm curious DP, why did you end up moving off of CC? I get that you think Jay is scummy, but you were balls out convinced forrrrrevvvvverrrr that CC was scum. Did I move off cc? I said his recent posts were townie, and now I am focusing on jay. I am not too stubborn to ignore your opinions altogether. Do I think there is a good chance cc is scum? yes. Is jay scummier right now? yes. I swear to god if I was still tunnelling cc you would be like: Hey DP Y U still tunnel townie cheesecake?
Some reasons of my scummyness would be great thx
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Also DP cant we just get along and lynch CC together
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On January 08 2013 16:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 16:07 jaybrundage wrote:On January 08 2013 16:05 DarthPunk wrote:On January 08 2013 15:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm curious DP, why did you end up moving off of CC? I get that you think Jay is scummy, but you were balls out convinced forrrrrevvvvverrrr that CC was scum. Did I move off cc? I said his recent posts were townie, and now I am focusing on jay. I am not too stubborn to ignore your opinions altogether. Do I think there is a good chance cc is scum? yes. Is jay scummier right now? yes. I swear to god if I was still tunnelling cc you would be like: Hey DP Y U still tunnel townie cheesecake? Some reasons of my scummyness would be great thx You don't care if the person you lynch is town or scum. How about that?
Yea thats why i been pushing my scum read CC all game. Also the reason I didn't want people to lynch Xatalos right as i said wait stop you know. As in dont lynch this guy cause he's prolly not scum. If thats all you got im not impressed
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Well this is interesting... I actually don't think this claim was to bad of an idea. If we dont get any counter claims. Iimm happy with it. It may mean that im a bad scum hunter but it always is great to have more or less confirmed town.
Time to go shift thru some filters.
Can mafia hold KP or decide not to shoot?
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On January 09 2013 06:12 MrZentor wrote:
Confirmed town
Hapahauli
MrZentor
Mr. CheeseCake
Most Probably Town
jaybrundage
DarthPunk
I Hate to Think He's Town, but He Probably Is
Z-Boson
Scum
yamato77
ShiaoPi
It's pretty simple.
Hrrm I'm undecided on CC still. Given the fact that mafia can hold KP they could set this up to exonerate CC and give him "confirmed" townie status.
They run into the risk of getting counter claimed by the real doctor.
But it is a fifty percent shot that we don't have a doctor. Are those odds the mafia are willing to take I don't know. But its good to keep in mind.
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On January 09 2013 06:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Why is jay most likely town at this point?
Always lynch bait never not lynch bait duh
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On January 09 2013 06:34 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 06:29 jaybrundage wrote:On January 09 2013 06:12 MrZentor wrote:
Confirmed town
Hapahauli
MrZentor
Mr. CheeseCake
Most Probably Town
jaybrundage
DarthPunk
I Hate to Think He's Town, but He Probably Is
Z-Boson
Scum
yamato77
ShiaoPi
It's pretty simple.Hrrm I'm undecided on CC still. Given the fact that mafia can hold KP they could set this up to exonerate CC and give him "confirmed" townie status. They run into the risk of getting counter claimed by the real doctor. But it is a fifty percent shot that we don't have a doctor. Are those odds the mafia are willing to take I don't know. But its good to keep in mind. It's certainly possible, but very very unlikely. First of all, CC didn't have a high chance of getting lynched given my support of him. Why would he claim (with a 50% of getting insta-lynched from a counter-claim) as scum? It makes no sense.
But given that if Scum have a RB CC is now useless. Like if Scum couldn't hold on to KP i would of liked the claim more if we could count for sure that he is town.
But i guess I see where your coming from It doesn't make much sense for scum. Ill withdraw my scum read on CC.
HI town CC nice to meet ya :D
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On January 09 2013 07:12 MrZentor wrote:I don't know why you'd keep two obviously townie players in there.
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Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.
Shiaopi and Yamato
Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.
Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D
Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.
I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.
Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?
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@Zboson whats your top 2 scum reads?
Also if you had to lynch out of these two who would you lynch?
Lastly your top 4 town reads.
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On January 09 2013 08:18 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 08:14 MrZentor wrote:Yamato, there are two scum. Sure, I'm one in your eyes, whatever; who else do you suspect? Who do you think is the other scum? + Show Spoiler +This is going to be good. Nah, I'm done giving my suspicions out to the thread just for you to sit there and criticize me for it. ##Vote Mr ZentorDo something. Prove I'm scum if you think so because you sitting on your ass this whole game and acting like you're confirmed town is fucking pathetic. If you're confirmed town that's the BEST time to be super active and pushy with your reads. You haven't done shit and I'm not taking any off you until you do.
It sucks to get tunneled but would you kindly offer up your second scum read
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