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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 28 2012 23:32 GMT
#1481
I'm still not 100% sure which one to lynch, Stutters or Vivax they both look so bad.

Here are some examples of why they both look terrible:

On December 19 2012 10:12 Vivax wrote:
Hey Victor, you know, I'm really into all this role playing and stuff, but I suggest you don't keep that up for too long or I will assume you're trying to keep yourself unreadable.


"Hey you better not do X or I will have an excuse to call you scum"

Also, hey did anyone notice that Vivax just vanished *poof* when night hit? Fuck talking in the night, town can't lynch me there, amirite?

He also wasn't thrilled when Wiggles first got attacked:

On December 21 2012 03:35 Vivax wrote:
Hi again chaps.

Did I miss a massive scumslip from Wiggles for causing this voting mayhem, or is it just Palmars Icelandic charm?

Catching up now.But you could help me by giving me a tl;dr summary of events :>


On December 21 2012 07:33 Vivax wrote:
Can you answer to me why you didn't vote for Wiggles immediately? If everyone thought you'd need other opinions or votes to start a bandwagon, most of town wouldn't be where it is: on Wiggles.
People with your mentality make it easy to deny responsibility for a mislynch, and to blend in while bussing.


But hey since Wiggles is getting lynched, here is my shitread so you guys can watch be being towny.

On December 21 2012 08:25 Vivax wrote:
I've promised you a read on Wiggles, I've written quite a bit, but I don't even see the point in posting it since he's going to get lynched anyway.

I'll give you a tl;dr instead:

He first called out Eywa on his post on Palmar, then agreed with it.
He buddies WBG by agreeing on zelblade and defending him against me.
He starts throwing shit at the people voting for him.

The first point is pretty scummy since he's agreeing on a view he expressed suspicion against before, the other two are null, but bad play imo. I don't like buddying, and discrediting the people voting for you doesn't get you anywhere.

I'm voting for the sake of consolidation, I still think Morbidius is more scummy, if anyone would be so kind to actually force him to answer my question since he's feeling comfortable to avoid it while throwing shit at me?


##Unvote
##Vote MrWiggles


And stutters isn't exactly supertown:

On December 19 2012 12:26 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 11:10 Toadesstern wrote:
sup guys

I won't believe any claim Vivax does in the future if he happens to claim something at some point and I'd say we stick with it that way. Yeah millers should claim but claiming VT (read: as in the ROLE, not the alignment) is retarded. Looks awfully set-up. Not alignment indicating at all because he's either a mafia or a townie trying to achieve something like doding or catching a bullet through confusion.

Just saying, see you tomorrow.


I'd need to go through his previous games to see how I'd feel if he claimed but I'll deal with that if he claims in the future. Not sure how I feel about writing something like that off this early.

@vivax why claim vt so early? What are you hoping to achieve for the town by doing that?

@Mr Wiggles why the vote on wbg in the first few hours before we even know if he's seen the thread? Is there some joke or strategy related to wbg I don't know about?

Palmar if you've read the thread you'd see that millers are self-aware. What's the confusion about?


Just some shit questions about nothing that don't need to be asked.

On December 23 2012 01:01 Stutters695 wrote:
I wasn't sure whether if rather lynch vivax or morb today but this early posting has sealed it. . First he says he's "very suspicious" of and then worried about iamp. Then out of nowhere he's just definitely town? I don't buy it, especially since he didn't say iamp was town until after he was challenged to make a case.

##Vote: Morbidius

I would like to know what made you decide iamp was town and why are you now "worried" about wbg.


One of the weakest cases ever.

Also, his only substantial contributions have been huge shit cases against someone who wasn't even there to defend himself and needed no cases to be pushed.

I honestly don't know. They've been at each other's throat since day 1. Maybe they're both scum?

Who cares, lynch one of them. I think Vivax is a safer lynch first. But honestly who knows. Maybe he's just a bad townie that doesn't care or something.

But he did disappear tonight, so why not kill him.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 28 2012 23:38 GMT
#1482
Also remember that if Vivax flips scum, that doesn't exclude stutters from suspicion. In fact it's almost good play to lynch stutters before bugs anyway, who should only be lynched in lylo.

The only exception is if Vivax flips town. In that case you lynch stutters in lylo the following day.

If I die:

step 1: lynch Vivax
if scum -> lynch stutters/bugs depending on how you feel.
if town -> lynch stutters

whatever you do, do not get convinced to lynch prom or sciberbia. They could very well be scum, but the setup does not allow us to find it out. Sciberbia's reads and explanations have been detailed and good throughout the game, and Prom's analysis of the setup and active questioning, along with his contributions since the start make them too towny to be questioned for now.

If we had another mislynch, I would tell you to consider the option of looking past the three, but we don't. So just hope for the best with the little chance we have.


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 28 2012 23:45 GMT
#1483
I'm kinda bummed out that no one is talking to me, these might be the last minutes I live :/
Computer says mafia
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 28 2012 23:49 GMT
#1484
On December 29 2012 08:45 Palmar wrote:
I'm kinda bummed out that no one is talking to me, these might be the last minutes I live :/

@Palmar
You're gonna make me cry

Do you think stutters is more likely to be scum than bugs? This seems like a significant change since yesterday. What made you change your mind on them?

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 28 2012 23:51 GMT
#1485
I was just trolling with the stutters supertown thing.

Here's a fun fact, based on pre-game bantering analysis if stutters flips scum, bugs is his buddy due to this post.

On December 17 2012 16:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 08:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
/in

My last exam is on Tuesday.

Time to lynch WBG. (I'm also playing for fun!)


No worries, when we both roll scum I'll bus you day 1.

[M][T] Epic Bussing Mafia: where everyone is a bus driver in addition to their normal roles, and any single mafia can win by successfully bussing all of his/her teammates.

Computer says mafia
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 28 2012 23:53 GMT
#1486
On December 29 2012 08:51 Palmar wrote:
I was just trolling with the stutters supertown thing.

Here's a fun fact, based on pre-game bantering analysis if stutters flips scum, bugs is his buddy due to this post.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 16:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 17 2012 08:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
/in

My last exam is on Tuesday.

Time to lynch WBG. (I'm also playing for fun!)


No worries, when we both roll scum I'll bus you day 1.

[M][T] Epic Bussing Mafia: where everyone is a bus driver in addition to their normal roles, and any single mafia can win by successfully bussing all of his/her teammates.



I think you misunderstood me.

In these last couple posts, you've implied that your top suspects are
1) Vivax
2) stutters
3) bugs

in that order.

whereas yesterday you said stutters didn't look like a scum to you, and you wanted to lynch into vivax/eywa/bugs. What changed?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 28 2012 23:55 GMT
#1487
On December 29 2012 08:08 Palmar wrote:
sorry about being an ass Prom, was kinda hoping scum would decide not to shoot me if I looked like I wasn't going to do anything (I assume it's only an hour until day now so they can't send in actions anymore).


oh I know. Why do you think I was calling you scum for lack of activity? either you had a night post ready to go up and were town or you were actually lazy scum. Either way town benefits from me calling your ass scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 28 2012 23:57 GMT
#1488
On December 27 2012 19:20 Palmar wrote:
In light of recent events I think we can treat Prome as almost certain town for now. Leaving my reads at this:

Palmar
Morbidius
[green]yamato77
sciberbia
Promethelax[green]

--------------

Eywa-
wherebugsgo
Stutters695
Vivax




To be perfectly honest, Stutters doesn't look like scum to me. So we can lynch into the other three.


This is the post I was referencing.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 29 2012 00:00 GMT
#1489
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Rockin' around the Christmas Tree!

Day 4


Palmar, the Vigilante, has been killed!




Day 4 starts now and ends in 48 hours. GLHF
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 00:02:25
December 29 2012 00:01 GMT
#1490
GG

Edit: I wrote a post here but was too late with it, edited it out.
Computer says mafia
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 29 2012 00:02 GMT
#1491
gg Palmar
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 29 2012 00:05 GMT
#1492
Dammit. I'll miss you Palmar. Sorry I called you scum and stuff.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 29 2012 00:06 GMT
#1493
## Vote: vivax
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 29 2012 00:10 GMT
#1494
I agree that we should lynch Vivax today. He has done nothing for three days to make me think he is townie. Bugs is doing more to convince me. And I still don't really see the scum in Stutters. It's also comforting that Palmar thought this was the best course of action.

##Vote: Vivax

I'll be back in a few hours.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 29 2012 00:42 GMT
#1495
Here's the thing:

I could ostensibly be wrong about Vivax, but I think stutters is more likely to be scum. Palmar must have been roleblocked, so Morbidius has to have a check for us.

Let's wait for that.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 29 2012 01:13 GMT
#1496
On December 29 2012 09:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Here's the thing:

I could ostensibly be wrong about Vivax, but I think stutters is more likely to be scum. Palmar must have been roleblocked, so Morbidius has to have a check for us.

Let's wait for that.


Palmar was almost certainly not roleblocked. He used his one shot N2 in an attempt to kill Vivax, but Vivax was jailed. Don't know why scum would have roleblocked him last night.
+ Show Spoiler +

And even if he could have shot, I don't think he would have.


So yea I doubt Morbidius has a check for us.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 29 2012 01:16 GMT
#1497
ah you're right, the shot is not refunded in the case of a jail.

:/
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 29 2012 01:18 GMT
#1498
Look Bugs, you are smarter than this. Why on earth would you assume that Morb would get a check, Palmar's bullet is gone, why would scum rb him?
gah, I hate that I can't assume you are scum for saying something so fucking dumb.

Okay, so we're lynching Vivax/Stutters/Bugs. Scum, would you be kind enough to concede so we don't have to spend days on these lynches. Thank you.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
December 29 2012 01:23 GMT
#1499
Roleblocked again... And Palmar has been shot, this is not looking so good. Bugs has been much more townish in the last day and night.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 29 2012 01:25 GMT
#1500
Thanks for the input Morb. I wish we had more mislynchs so I could lynch into you as i would any player who I believed to have an ounce of sense who has played the way you have played. Unfortunately you a probably townie. As a townie would you like to contribute at all to finding scum so that we can win this game?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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