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Palmar
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Promethelax
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yamato77
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On December 22 2012 03:12 Promethelax wrote: You weren't instrumental to the lynch. You were an early bandwaggoner. Those are two very different things and you would do well to learn the difference. Look, I think you are town but playing badly so this is a waste of both our time, lets not shit up the thread more with this unless you think it is worth pursuing because you think I am scum. Deal? Now you're just lying. Man you are really trying to make me mad. Too bad it isn't working. | ||
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Promethelax
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Promethelax
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yamato77
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His entrance into the thread and subsequent mindset is to push the exact same mafia objectives that Wiggles was pushing, Throw doubt on/discredit Palmar, and act all politically correct to everyone else. Only now he's pushing this insane idea that somehow I am bad for the town atmosphere when his own posts undermine me, and undermine Palmar, the two people who actually tried to get Wiggles lynched. He is the one that's bad for the town atmosphere, as demonstrated by this fact. Not to mention that he has yet to post a scum read. I know it isn't lynch day but if you're town don't you want to come in with some idea of who you think is scum? Instead he asks a bunch of questions that vaguely seem like scum hunting and throws a lot of doubt on people's alignment. How is this good for the town atmosphere? How is insulting me for my supposedly "bad play" EVEN IF TRUE something that a town player would want to do at this point? It certainly makes sense from a scum perspective because you would want to make me mad and lose focus. So all in all, I'd say Promethelax so far looks like a rebranded Wiggles. I don't know why a scum player would want to come in and do exactly what Wiggles was doing after it just got him lynched, but here you go. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The whole case on Zel was basicly "dude's a luker" which IS alignment indicating if we're talking about Zelblade but he apparently had some issues and it wasn't active lurking but being replaced out. So yeah I'd say we should keep calm about him right now. Tunneling people like a mad man shows the worst side of the guy tunneling and should not be enforced. We don't want to have 4 parties tomorrow screaming "NO YOU SHUT UP, MY LYNCH CANDIDATE IS TEH BEST!" like a little egocentric kid, and that's something comming from me. | ||
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Morbidius
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Morbidius
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yamato77
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On December 22 2012 05:47 Toadesstern wrote: We should give prom some time. Something like 24hours into d2 imo. He just replaced in, even during night and that's hard. I'd wait and see what's going to happen tomorrow. The whole case on Zel was basicly "dude's a luker" which IS alignment indicating if we're talking about Zelblade but he apparently had some issues and it wasn't active lurking but being replaced out. So yeah I'd say we should keep calm about him right now. Tunneling people like a mad man shows the worst side of the guy tunneling and should not be enforced. We don't want to have 4 parties tomorrow screaming "NO YOU SHUT UP, MY LYNCH CANDIDATE IS TEH BEST!" like a little egocentric kid, and that's something comming from me. I highly doubt he's going to get any better but we'll see. | ||
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Keirathi
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Morbidius
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 22 2012 08:24 Morbidius wrote: For those who know the players here I'd like to ask: how experienced is Prome? He comes off as town but he seems a bit... Dumb. why do you think he's dumb? I get that yamato and prom are having a pissing contest so I'd understand him saying something like that, not that I like it but if you want to say something like that you should usually get a little more into detail and explain why you think so. At least quote the post you're referring to... | ||
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Toadesstern
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On December 22 2012 08:24 Morbidius wrote: For those who know the players here I'd like to ask: how experienced is Prome? He comes off as town but he seems a bit... Dumb. lol Morbidius. I played for about 12 hours in a Newbie Mini with Promethelax before he murdered me. I guess he's not that experienced since only 6 months ago he was playing newbie mini's. From the little time I spent with him, I think he's a reasonably good player. He had a lot of thread control at any rate. I think it was Newbie Mini XIX. Anyway, I've been rereading filters and reevaluating my reads for the past several hours. I wrote up some posts with my opinions on a couple of players that I felt I should share in case I die. I know it's a lot, but I think it's worth a thorough read. Unfortunately, I'm quite busy for the rest of the night, so you probably won't hear much from me over the next 18 hours. I'll be trying to keep up from my phone. Without, any further adieu, here are my thoughts on debears, Morbidious, and Vivax | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
I'm just going to summarise my points from yesterday: - He asked tough questions to Vivax and iamperfection but then he was satisfied by their non-answers - He told me that he was laying a trap but there was no trap - He tunneled Toad about something that IMO is clearly not much of a scumtell (Toad being lazy) Since then, I have grown even more suspicious of debears: Approach to the Wiggles lynch debears's approach to the Wiggles lynch seriously bothers me. He stated that he opposed the Wiggles lynch, but he did almost nothing to fight it. On December 21 2012 06:32 debears wrote: Lets not lynch wiggles his activity and fighting against sheeps makes me think more lilely town ##unvote ##vote zelblade Unless anyone wants to join me with iamp On December 21 2012 08:28 debears wrote: :/ Why wiggles over zelblade, vivax, stutters? Seriously guys.....seriously You guys don't find it at all funny how everyone just flocks to the case with little resistance? Not only does debears say he prefers other targets, but he states that he has a town-read on Wiggles. Now I am told that debears is a smart, good townie. If a good townie has a town-read on the person getting lynched, I expect them to: 1) defend their town-read 2) suggest an alternate candidate 3) argue why the alternate candidate is more likely scum Debears does none of these things. He does not defend Wiggles beyond that one line about Wiggles's "activity and fighting against sheeps". This suggests to me that he knew Wiggles would flip red, and didn't want to do too much defending because it would look bad. Secondly, debears does vote zelblade, but he doesn't really try to persuade anyone else to vote zelblade. I don't think he even said why he thinks zelblade is scum. Thirdly, he spent most of his time arguing that Toad and iamperfection are scum, even though neither of them was in contention for lynching yesterday. Not only was he not fighting the lynch, but he was spending his time writing a case on iamperfection that he did not even present until after the Wiggles flip. Overall, I find it hard to believe that a town debears would do so little to oppose a lynch that he supposedly thought was bad. Right now, debears is my top lynch candidate for tomorrow by a good margin. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
I read through his filter from Witchcraft Mini where he was a VT, and he had a similar posting style to this game: a little bit lurky with a lot of short posts. From this meta, his play this game, and his small post count, I can conclude that he is neither an experienced player nor an "overconfident asshole". So if he were scum, I would expect him to play scared, noncommittal, wishy/washy, etc. On the contrary, his posts all read as blunt and completely unafraid. Completely unafraid early in the game First look at his intreaction with yamato at the beginning of the game: + Show Spoiler + On December 19 2012 09:21 Morbidius wrote: That was quick, self aware millers should make this game interesting. On December 19 2012 09:24 Morbidius wrote: Wtf, why would you ask if millers are self aware if you just claimed miller 1 post ago? On December 19 2012 14:52 Morbidius wrote: Was just trying to get a reaction from him and maybe get some discussion going. I don't think that was a scumslip nor do i have a case against him. He immediately calls out yamato for yamato's apparent contradiction, and claims that it was a scumslip. That statement is likely to draw retaliation from yamato and attention from all the other players. I don't think Morbidius would be trying to stir up shit so early in the game (or ever) as scum. Then, as Palmar pointed out, he backs down from it in a completely calm manner. This post in particular struck me as townie: + Show Spoiler + On December 19 2012 12:16 Morbidius wrote: Oh boy its quiet in here. This was about three hours into the game, when nobody had posted anything for an hour. This post calls attention to the fact that Morbidius is online, looking at the thread, and not actually doing anything. It is an invitation for someone to discuss something with him. It's not a move I would expect from scum, who would like any excuse not to post. I'd expect a scum Morbidius to be playing much more scared. his vote on bugs Bugs thought that Morbidius's vote on him was the scummiest thing in the world, but I disagree. I don't see the scum motivation for Morbidius voting bugs. Due to his veteran status, I don't think bugs had any chance of actually being lynched yesterday. So I think it would be a silly move for scum Morbidius to provoke the wrath of bugs when bugs isn't going to get lynched anyway. Also, I don't think it's scummy that Morbidius didn't post his case. If he were scum, I think that he would have waited until he had time to write a case before making a vote with no explanation (since he will catch flak for it). I think the most likely explanation is that Morbidius is town, thought bugs was scum early on, but then slowly changed his mind and so never bothered making a case, as is supported by these quotes: + Show Spoiler + On December 20 2012 01:49 Morbidius wrote: ##vote wherebugsgo Will post more on it later, am a bit busy at the moment but i promise to post more reasoning. Even so this is day 1 where scum reads are at their weakest. On December 21 2012 02:25 Morbidius wrote: I don't like the zelblade lynch because i don't trust wbg and wiggles , pushing for a lynch along with my scumreads would be silly even tho there isn't one thing that says town about zel. WBG play has been stupid so far and i don't agree with him on most of his points but i am willing to take part on a MR.Wiggles lynch. On December 21 2012 03:12 Morbidius wrote: I'm way more confident in a wiggles lynch right now his posts have been very scummy while my suspicion over my other reads have weakened. He has been shooting accusations at everyone and hoping one of them works. Also his ''case'' on palmar is the dumbest thing i've read so far. ##unvote ##vote Mr. Wiggles On December 21 2012 11:01 Morbidius wrote: Some thoughts so far: Problably town: Sciberbia Palmar leaning town: Yamato Vivax WBG Leaning scum: Stutters Debears I need more time to make reads on the ones i didn't mention. Vote on Wiggles I think you guys are making too big of a deal out of the exact timing of Morbidius's vote. Even before Toad and I had voted, he had made it clear that he was strongly leaning toward voting Wiggles: + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2012 01:21 Morbidius wrote: Vote count please? I got a slightly scum vibe from Wiggles and i do think a day 1 lynch is better than no lynch. On December 21 2012 02:25 Morbidius wrote: I don't like the zelblade lynch because i don't trust wbg and wiggles , pushing for a lynch along with my scumreads would be silly even tho there isn't one thing that says town about zel. WBG play has been stupid so far and i don't agree with him on most of his points but i am willing to take part on a MR.Wiggles lynch. I can easily see townie explanations as to why he didn't vote earlier. Maybe he was still thinking about Wiggles and reading over his filter. Maybe he was looking at other options (hence why he asked for a vote count). Maybe something that Toad or I said in our posts helped to convince him. I just don't see what the big deal is. And I think you should give him a townie point for actually voting for the scum. He was the 5th vote for a scum in a 13 player game. In conclusion, I am actually reasonably confident that Morbidius is town and I don't think we should lynch him tomorrow. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
A lot of you guys have been stating suspicion on Vivax because he is confrontational, abrasive, and a bit obnoxious. However, town Vivax is the very definition of confrontational, abrasive, and a bit obnoxious. This feels like town Vivax to me. I've played with him twice and in both games he was town and was mislynched because he pissed off too many people. To quote marv from a couple of months ago, On July 14 2012 05:48 marvellosity wrote: From what I know of town Vivax: makes stupid connection cases, bad logical leaps, active and try hard From what I know of scum Vivax: lurky and summarises a lot of stuff. yes it's only one game that's what i got I suggest that you guys look through his filter in some of his past games before you push for his lynch on the grounds of him 'shitting up the thread'. Town games: Newbie Mini XV Can't Believe It's Not Themed Mini Scum game: Newbie Mini XVI I agree that Vivax's post on Wiggles and approach to the Wiggles lynch in general is suspicious. But overall, his play this game says town Vivax to me, and I don't think we should lynch him tomorrow. | ||
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Morbidius
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