EPTi want to lynch debars
i will post my case when i get home from work should be plenty of time before the lynch
stay tuned
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
i want to lynch debars i will post my case when i get home from work should be plenty of time before the lynch stay tuned | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 20 2012 22:31 Toadesstern wrote: He continues to surprise me most times I sign up for games he's playing as well because I think I figured him out, he's being useless as town, I want to lynch him for that because he's usually not and suddenly he flips town. Please prove this. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 20 2012 23:06 iamperfection wrote: do another association comment toad and i will bring hells fury i want to lynch debars i will post my case when i get home from work should be plenty of time before the lynch stay tuned No, we're lynching Wiggles today. Post your case, but you need to vote the wiggles. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why is debars scum? Quite simply he is not scum hunting at all. Town debars from mario mini is extremely aggressive and yes his tone in this game is aggressive but the main difference is that he does not pursue his targets in way productive for town. His contributions so far this game can be summed up as 1. Shitting the thread up with toad 2. calling out stutters. ( this was good but i will have more on this later) 3. Calling out Vivax for claiming vanilla townie.(whatever) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Point 1 His tunneling of toad is mafia motivated. Debars has shown in the past to have no problem being flexible with town in order to push multiple reads see mario mini here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=48#944 His tunneling in this game shows that he is distant with the happenings of the thread because he has no interest in finding scum. Town Debars would not pack it in and simply tunnel toad in order to look like he is contributing. Also if you look at his points against toad they are very weak and he does not give good reasons why their are mafia motivations behind toads actions. His case on toad boils down to he is being unreasonable but town members are unreasonable all the time. Hell im one the most unreasonable people ever i hold vets like palmar and in other games when im town to ridiculous standards and call them out for it they dont reach it (with mixed results) Point 2 His calling out of stutters Sure it was good in all but he does not push the read at all. As we saw before in mario he has no problem look at multiple targets at the same time. In this game he just drops and doesn't comment on it any further. Once again debars is being very distant with the thread because he is not actually looking for scum Point 3 lack of engagement Kind of more of a feel thing and somewhat covered already but overall debars is giving me a feel of just not being here and engaged. This kid can have a 10 page filter on day 1 if he wanted to and he hasn't. I just think he doesn't care about catching scum. tldr debars is scum unless debars works some miracle im going to stick my vote and push him further i would like everyone to comment on my case ## Vote debars | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:15 Palmar wrote: No, we're lynching Wiggles today. Post your case, but you need to vote the wiggles. ya no take a look at debars please | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
know anything about his meta? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
And I somewhat agree Debears could be scum, but I feel much more confident about killing Wiggles. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On December 20 2012 04:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Eywa, I like you style, screw the haters. One question though: You make this post: Saying that you'd like us to consider going for a no-lynch on Day 1 and just waiting for Day 2, so that we can possibly get a check in, or at the very least have something to talk about. Later, you come in with your analysis of Palmar, which is cool that you made it, but after re-reading, one thing that stuck out to me was that a majority of the posts and behaviour of Palmar that you draw on comes from before you made your no-lynch post. In-between your no-lynch post and your analysis, you were called out by a couple players for not commenting on the game (which I disagree with, but whatever). So, the analysis came after that. So, my question to you, is when did you become suspicious of Palmar? The timing of the post combined with the posts you draw from don't really fit when put into the context of your no-lynch post. You ask to no-lynch, then later you make a post saying Palmar is scum, which is fine, because you can change your mind, but your analysis is all based on stuff Palmar did before your no-lynch post, so if you found it to be so scummy, why didn't it strike you before? So, to me, it looks like you made your no-lynch post, got shut down, then went back and looked for someone to make a case on. What gives? well a lot of people have been getting worked up about this post. Yes its stupid but is it something a town wiggles could say? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
But no, this post looks like something written by scum, thus we should hang him. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
wherebugsgo (3): zelblade (2): wherebugsgo, Mr. Wiggles Toadesstern (1): Eywa- (1): Palmar (1): Eywa- Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar debears (1): iamperfection Vivax (0): Stutters695 (0): Morbidius (0): Currently wherebugsgo is set to be lynched. Deadline is in about 9 hours 20 mins. | ||
yamato77
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:42 yamato77 wrote: I would hang either of them. Debears thing with Toad was all kinds of dumb. come over to the good side debars is the best lynch. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:43 iamperfection wrote: come over to the good side debars is the best lynch. Stop pushing an alternative lynch to mine asshole. We're lynching wiggles. We can figure out other stuff later. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Last game I played with him was PTP3 if I remember correctly and if you look at his filter it's just not that much either considering for how long he survived: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359357&user=99050&user=99050 Yes the filter has posts that look good and they are actually good but it's just not that much. I can't make out a significant difference and actually there's some posts that strike me as "this could be town-Wiggles" he had in that game that look somewhat like what he's doing this game. Example (I remember this one because it was directed at me&bc): + Show Spoiler [click me] + On August 20 2012 11:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Why do you feel the need to tell people to stop role speculating when no one's been doing it for the last several pages, and it's already been pointed out and addressed? Posts like that look a lot like what he's doing this game to be honest. Again, that's why I'm uncertain about him. I definitely can't shake of the feeling that he's as well posting the way he did in.... whatever-the-name-was when I was modconfirmed phone-booth-mason and he got mayor as mafia, which is the reason I brought it up in my most recent post, because it really does look like this political correct Wiggles to please the masses from time to times. So those 2 things are obviously confronting each other, thus my trouble making a read on him right now. But as mentioned earlier. I'm now at my parents place and will read your thoughts about him. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:44 Palmar wrote: Stop pushing an alternative lynch to mine asshole. We're lynching wiggles. We can figure out other stuff later. lol you said you somewhat support it. No reason to be mad. we can figure out stuff now. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:46 iamperfection wrote: lol you said you somewhat support it. No reason to be mad. we can figure out stuff now. I already have. Debears is somewhat active although I don't like everything he's posted. I simply think Wiggles has a much higher chance of flipping scum. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:46 iamperfection wrote: lol you said you somewhat support it. No reason to be mad. we can figure out stuff now. Do you think a mafia would go through the trouble and read up Chrono Trigger to find the quote about me he delivered? I have a hard time thinking that way. If he wants to shit up the thread he can just do so without checking it and hardline his usual "but Toad totally misinterpreted what I said! He has to be evil mafia who misunderstood me on purpose to make me look bad!" | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On December 21 2012 00:56 Toadesstern wrote: Do you think a mafia would go through the trouble and read up Chrono Trigger to find the quote about me he delivered? I have a hard time thinking that way. If he wants to shit up the thread he can just do so without checking it and hardline his usual "but Toad totally misinterpreted what I said! He has to be evil mafia who misunderstood me on purpose to make me look bad!" yes i do i have used past games against other people as scum before. GSL III i believe. | ||
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Palmar
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