EPTParallel World Mafia: iGrok's Strange Land - Page 6
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Clarity_nl
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The way iGrok answered I'm assuming if I have the most votes the person with the 2nd most votes will be swapped. | ||
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sandroba
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##Vote Risen | ||
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Mementoss
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On December 13 2012 02:57 sandroba wrote: This thread sucks balls. I think Risen is scum. ##Vote Risen So your still under the notion of swapping scum today, so they cannot be lynched tomorrow? | ||
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sandroba
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What do you think about risen's comments? | ||
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Mementoss
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On December 13 2012 03:07 sandroba wrote: Have you not read my posts at all? What do you think about risen's comments? Did you read my post saying why I disagree with you? I think Risen's comments are pretty shit, throws out 2 scum reads within 3 (?) pages of the thread. His reasons for you and BH being scum didn't really make sense. Trying to stir up chaos? But it was so unwarrented that it was pretty much ignored. His comments on swapping lurkers agrees with my thoughts. | ||
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iGrok
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Mementoss
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On December 13 2012 03:20 sandroba wrote: I did. I don't really care about who we swap and I don't this conversation to go on. What I want to do is to move us towards talking about who we think are scum. What do you think about risen's comment about me saying that I would lurk and not lurking being a mafia tell? And what do you think about him calling BH useless and being 10X more useless himself? Do you think his comment on swapping lurkers is alignment indicative? I agree that going forwards this thread conversation should be mainly based on who is scum. I think its just as helpful to discuss who you think the lynch should eb in the other thread, because they can read our posts and be convinced by them. The only problem is we can't as effectively, use our posts to pressure people and get responses to determine their alignment. That being said we can get a good head start on tomorrows lynch in our on thread. That being said, I don't want anyone sending their scum reads away to the other thread. I want them here, where we can lynch them. More detailed into Risen. Him throwing out baseless scum tells on you and Blazinghand like I said could be him as scum causing chaos, as that seems to be Risen's style as scum, fucking shit up. You saying I'm going to lurk and than not lurking is not a mafia tell because, if your producing discussion in a productive way, your pushing town agenda. BH has been spamming quiet a bit, but at least it is getting the thread going, Risens snarky comments and leaving is pretty bad. I don't think any comments on swapping are alignment indicative because they could easily come out of town or scum. You for example, I think your plan is scummy as hell, and all the risks in it are scum motivated. It could have easily come from a townie who didn't think the consequences through. As this game is a new concept and we still are in cycle 1. However, your presence in the thread to push discussion into find scum lynch mode, makes me think you are town. However, him voting himself and peacing in the way that he did, kinda makes me think he wants to be unlynchable tomorrow. Hard to tell though. But I am not a mind reader, I cannot determine someone's alignment based on two posts. However, at this point in the game, if I had to kill someone in this thread it would be Risen. I would like it if you did not send him away as I think we need to pressure him to contribute the next cycle. I would like Risens comments on his updated view on you and BH, as well as his thoughts on foolishness and who the other thread should lynch today. | ||
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Risen
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On December 13 2012 03:13 Mementoss wrote: Did you read my post saying why I disagree with you? I think Risen's comments are pretty shit, throws out 2 scum reads within 3 (?) pages of the thread. His reasons for you and BH being scum didn't really make sense. Trying to stir up chaos? But it was so unwarrented that it was pretty much ignored. His comments on swapping lurkers agrees with my thoughts. My comments are pretty shit except yamato comes into the thread and points out more useless nonsense from sandroba. Meanwhile BH hasn't actually done anything. His opinions shift with the thread without real explanation and he's straight done an about face on his point of not being able to lynch the person we swap without addressing it. [spoiler] On December 12 2012 09:54 Blazinghand wrote: Ugh no you're so wrong ok let me explain for you: 1) today we swap someone 2) tomorrow we lynch someone, and that person necessarily CANNOT BE THE GUY WE SWAPPED So, if we swap a player we cannot lynch him, therefore we swap townies, not scum. On December 12 2012 13:04 Blazinghand wrote: All these weird swap plans that aren't like "lynch scum, swap town" are bad. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hBbE3l.jpg) On December 12 2012 13:09 Blazinghand wrote: Exactly! Yamato77 knows what's up. If we swap a townie, we're more likely to hit scum with our lynch statistically. On December 12 2012 13:13 Blazinghand wrote: Oh also I'd be comfortable sending Sandro over. His ideas are bad but scum wouldn't come out swinging with a plan like that. I think he genuinely believes it's a good plan, and it's not like it's a plan that would be construed as good but secretly give scum an advantage-- it's just sub-optimal. Treating our vote here like a lynch vote would also stimulate discussion, as he mentioned. This strikes me as town motivated, and a town motivated explanation. I'd still prefer me but Sandro is acceptable as a swap candidate. On December 12 2012 13:45 Blazinghand wrote: Hm, actually that's a good point. If BOTH SIDES choose to swap scum, we maximize scum lynching and will never be lynching into a pool of confirmed townies. I've changed my mind, Sandro's plan is excellent if it works like this: All sides swap scum, all sides lynch scum. It avoids the "lynching confirmed town" scenario and will confirm townies the quickest. If we get a majority of people in both houses to sign on this will be great. | ||
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Risen
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On December 13 2012 03:13 Mementoss wrote: Did you read my post saying why I disagree with you? I think Risen's comments are pretty shit, throws out 2 scum reads within 3 (?) pages of the thread. His reasons for you and BH being scum didn't really make sense. Trying to stir up chaos? But it was so unwarrented that it was pretty much ignored. His comments on swapping lurkers agrees with my thoughts. My comments are pretty shit except yamato comes into the thread and points out more useless nonsense from sandroba. Meanwhile BH hasn't actually done anything. His opinions shift with the thread without real explanation and he's straight done an about face on his point of not being able to lynch the person we swap without addressing it. + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2012 09:54 Blazinghand wrote: Ugh no you're so wrong ok let me explain for you: 1) today we swap someone 2) tomorrow we lynch someone, and that person necessarily CANNOT BE THE GUY WE SWAPPED So, if we swap a player we cannot lynch him, therefore we swap townies, not scum. On December 12 2012 13:04 Blazinghand wrote: All these weird swap plans that aren't like "lynch scum, swap town" are bad. On December 12 2012 13:09 Blazinghand wrote: Exactly! Yamato77 knows what's up. If we swap a townie, we're more likely to hit scum with our lynch statistically. On December 12 2012 13:13 Blazinghand wrote: Oh also I'd be comfortable sending Sandro over. His ideas are bad but scum wouldn't come out swinging with a plan like that. I think he genuinely believes it's a good plan, and it's not like it's a plan that would be construed as good but secretly give scum an advantage-- it's just sub-optimal. Treating our vote here like a lynch vote would also stimulate discussion, as he mentioned. This strikes me as town motivated, and a town motivated explanation. I'd still prefer me but Sandro is acceptable as a swap candidate. On December 12 2012 13:45 Blazinghand wrote: Hm, actually that's a good point. If BOTH SIDES choose to swap scum, we maximize scum lynching and will never be lynching into a pool of confirmed townies. I've changed my mind, Sandro's plan is excellent if it works like this: All sides swap scum, all sides lynch scum. It avoids the "lynching confirmed town" scenario and will confirm townies the quickest. If we get a majority of people in both houses to sign on this will be great. | ||
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sandroba
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Also I can't derive any meaning to what you are saying. What does yamato have to do with your shitty comments? What did you expect BH to comment on as town in this situation? Why do you think it's scummy from BH to change his mind on a subject after a discussion? | ||
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Risen
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"However, your presence in the thread to push discussion into find scum lynch mode, makes me think you are town." 1) Town doesn't give town reads, and no one asked for your opinion on sandro anyways. 2) Soft defends BH "BH has been spamming quiet a bit, but at least it is getting the thread going" 3) "It could have easily come from a townie who didn't think the consequences through" in reference to Sand's plan. So maybe it's Sand/Mementoss team, but I don't think so. The thing against Sand, and a town Mementoss would know this, is that he's smarter than that. He wouldn't come in and post that plan as town. This shouldn't be a point in Sand's favor, it should be a point against it. Regardless, lynch Mementoss tomorrow, then deal with blazinghand or sand. | ||
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Risen
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On December 13 2012 03:48 sandroba wrote: So you are active lurking. Why didn't you feel like posting at all untill you got called out? Also I can't derive any meaning to what you are saying. What does yamato have to do with your shitty comments? What did you expect BH to comment on as town in this situation? Why do you think it's scummy from BH to change his mind on a subject after a discussion? If you look at my posting in Chrono Trigger you'll know I wasn't active lurking and just got to the thread. You know TheChronicler is my smurf, why didn't you think to look there? I haven't posted there either. Also note that Mementoss posted a minute before me, that's not active lurking. Why are you trying to muddy up the situation like this? A town sandroba wouldn't ask for others opinions on me, he'd just say "Risen is scum because X" and a town Sandroba wouldn't forward a horrible plan, and finally a town Sandroba wouldn't accuse me of active lurking without checking to see if I had posted in Chrono or anywhere else on the site. I thought it had to be BH as MT's partner, but I guess I was wrong. Mementoss/Sandroba scum team in this thread. | ||
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Risen
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On December 13 2012 03:48 sandroba wrote: So you are active lurking. Why didn't you feel like posting at all untill you got called out? Also I can't derive any meaning to what you are saying. What does yamato have to do with your shitty comments? What did you expect BH to comment on as town in this situation? Why do you think it's scummy from BH to change his mind on a subject after a discussion? I think it's scummy to change his mind without either 1) Defending his own point of view or 2) Giving an explanation for why he changed his mind on something that seems pretty important to me (not being able to lynch the swapped person) | ||
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sandroba
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2nd. My plans are always controversial. I do that as town and scum. It's my way of getting discussion going as town and my way to keep consistent as scum. You may think it's horrible, but that's because you are an idiot. 3rd. I don't have access to your pm. If you think I can know for sure you are scum after you posting 2 lines than you must think I'm a god. I'm trying to get discussion going to figure out your alignment and the alignment of others in this thread. | ||
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