EPTHe didn't even address the spag lynch. He stayed on corazon and let spag get lynched. Since he didn't vote for spag, i assume he had a town read on spag, yet he didn't do anything to defend him
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FatChunk
Canada93 Posts
He didn't even address the spag lynch. He stayed on corazon and let spag get lynched. Since he didn't vote for spag, i assume he had a town read on spag, yet he didn't do anything to defend him | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
You had a town read on Spag, but you didn't defend him either. Why does it make him scum if you, a townie, also did it? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On December 31 2012 07:22 cDgCorazon wrote: At least FatChunk is giving us something. Even though he's under pressure, he's still coming out with his scum reads, whether they may be good or not. Orange hasn't even voted yet. What do we do if he gets modkilled (or if it looks like he will get modkilled)? Yes, he's giving us something, under pressure, in the hopes that we won't lynch him. That's not alignment indicative. The only reason that you've given for lynching Orange over FC is that Orange doesn't defend himself, something that is not beneficial for either alignment. Do you have any other reasons? Do you think that FC is scum? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Orangeremi (3): cDgCorazon, FatChunk, cakepie FatChunk (3): shz, Chromatically, Sylencia Not voting (1): Orangeremi Currently, FatChunk is set to be lynched! ~an hour remaining in day 1. Please PM any of your friendly neighborhood hosts if your vote is counted incorrectly. | ||
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cakepie
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
I've been on Orange's case since Day 2. If I switch over now and vote off FC, it will make me look hypocritical since I've been trying to get Orange lynched for awhile. My read is that Orange is more likely to be scum than FC is. If the 1-1 theory had not been proposed (or created, so to say), than I would have gone as far to say as they are both scum. However, we don't have the numbers to afford to lynch them both. If we did, I would be all for switching onto FC. Our predicament calls for lynching who we are most sure of being scum. To me, it is Orange. Orange has lurked, sheeped, has contributed 0 to the scumhunt. All this on top of not defending himself. Orange and FC are both here for those similar reasons. However, FC is more likely to get lynched because there are a lot of holes that have been poked in his argument. It's hard to poke a hole in an argument that is not there. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
On December 31 2012 07:22 cDgCorazon wrote: Orange hasn't even voted yet. What do we do if he gets modkilled (or if it looks like he will get modkilled)? We will get both orange and fatchunk dead with one dayphase, two for the price of one, why not? Just be ready for a mad switch if need be -- but it will not be because of a modkill on orange. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On December 31 2012 08:08 cakepie wrote: We will get both orange and fatchunk dead with one dayphase, two for the price of one, why not? Just be ready for a mad switch if need be -- but it will not be because of a modkill on orange. Well I kind of meant being replaced when I said "modkilled". | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
It seems that you really think that Orange is far more scummy than FC, but your only reason is that Orange hasn't defended himself. We're not voting FC because he has a bad argument, we're voting him because he's scummier and his argument doesn't convince us. Just the fact that FC voted shz right after Orange should make him scummier than Orange. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On December 31 2012 08:11 Chromatically wrote: It shouldn't matter what makes you look hypocritical. Townies don't worry about looking scummy. That's a very odd thing for a townie to say. It seems that you really think that Orange is far more scummy than FC, but your only reason is that Orange hasn't defended himself. We're not voting FC because he has a bad argument, we're voting him because he's scummier and his argument doesn't convince us. Just the fact that FC voted shz right after Orange should make him scummier than Orange. Chrom, if you want me to quote all of the posts that I've attacked Orange in, I will do so. It doesn't really matter now. FC is going to be lynched unless you or Syl changes your mind. The tiebreaker goes to FC being lynched, and I doubt that Orange is going to vote for himself. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On December 31 2012 08:16 cDgCorazon wrote: It doesn't really matter now. FC is going to be lynched unless you or Syl changes your mind. The tiebreaker goes to FC being lynched, and I doubt that Orange is going to vote for himself. EBWOP: ...you or Syl changes your minds. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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shz
Germany2687 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
FC's voteswitch is worse. FC first had a better read on Kick, but switched to shz based on stuff that I had already posted in N1. Orange switched because scum were fine with us voting Kick (which they were), which is consistent with what he's said during the day. FC's vote also came just after Orange's, meaning that he saw the opportunity to save his buddy and took it. The lack of defense from Orange, on the other hand, doesn't support either alignment. In fact, it supports the bad bored townie hypothesis better than it does the scum one. Scum would be out here doing everything they can to avoid being lynched. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
On December 31 2012 08:12 Chromatically wrote:cakepie, why are you voting Orange? I had just wanted to park my vote overnight. ----- ##Vote: FatChunk Okay, FatChunk, here's the deal. If you are VT and will claim so honestly, I might be able to save you from the lynch with pure logical deduction and zero case analysis -- if you are not lying. If you are lying, then you deserve to die anyway. If you are going to claim something else -- I already saw it a mile away as the last possible, logical scum play by kick/orange/fc scumteam. That claim, coming so last minute is going to look ridiculously scummy. It may extend your life, but it will not help you win as scum. You may only seek to help an SK win, if there is one -- mafia team kingmaker, possibly. I am playing safe and looking for the win if possible, trying to preserve a little insurance against the small remaining possibility of SK in the game, even though general consensus is there is likely to be none. And if there is no SK in the game, kick/orange/fc is already guaranteed to lose. What is the last card in your hand? Out with it. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
On December 31 2012 08:27 cakepie wrote: If you are going to claim something else -- I already saw it a mile away as the last possible, logical scum play by kick/orange/fc scumteam. That claim, coming so last minute is going to look ridiculously scummy. It may extend your life, but it will not help you win as scum. You may only seek to help an SK win, if there is one -- mafia team kingmaker, possibly. EBWOP: making this last possible claim does not automatically make FC scum, it just will look very scummy coming so late. Don't preclude the possibility of FC actually being town. (Also, town wins anyway as long as there is no SK.) | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum? | ||
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