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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:30 GMT
#1421
EBWOP: Above post was directed at Chrom.
Grubby's #1 Fan
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:31 GMT
#1422
On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
So if you feel that way, do you think that the 1-1 theory is true?

And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum?


Is this directed at me?
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:32 GMT
#1423
On December 31 2012 08:31 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
So if you feel that way, do you think that the 1-1 theory is true?

And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum?


Is this directed at me?


On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
EBWOP: Above post was directed at Chrom.


Okay, not for me.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#1424
On December 31 2012 08:32 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 08:31 cakepie wrote:
On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
So if you feel that way, do you think that the 1-1 theory is true?

And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum?


Is this directed at me?


Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
EBWOP: Above post was directed at Chrom.


Okay, not for me.


Sorry, I wasn't expecting another post so quickly.
Grubby's #1 Fan
FatChunk
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada93 Posts
December 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#1425
So you guys are going to stick around and wait to see if orange shows up. At least i defended myself and tried to explain my reasoning. orange has probably just thrown in the towel and you're willing to let him slide. And you can't even guarantee that he will get modkilled and not get replaced.

@cake
Well I've been claiming town all along. so yes, I am VT.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#1426
@Corazon
The 1-1 theory is probably true. Orange and FC were roleblocked on consecutive nights, but there was a second roleblock on both nights. This means that neither of them are the scum RB, so someone else must be. This of course assumes no fakeclaims, so it's not foolproof, but I think that it's probable.
If FC flips scum, I'll look at you. If Orange is scum, I'll look at Syl.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#1427
Putting this on new page as well:
-----

##Vote: FatChunk

Okay, FatChunk, here's the deal. If you are VT and will claim so honestly, I might be able to save you from the lynch with pure logical deduction and zero case analysis -- if you are not lying. If you are lying, then you deserve to die anyway.

If you are going to claim something else -- I already saw it a mile away as the last possible, logical scum play by kick/orange/fc scumteam. That claim, coming so last minute is going to look ridiculously scummy.
It may extend your life, but it will not help you win as scum. Scum FC may only seek to help an SK win, if there is one -- mafia team kingmaker, possibly. Town FC playing like this? bad play.
[edit @ all This claim does not automatically make FC scum, it just will look very scummy coming so late. Don't preclude the possibility of FC actually being town. (Anyway, town very likely wins anyway as long as there is no SK.) ]

I am playing safe and looking for the win if possible, trying to preserve a little insurance against the small remaining possibility of SK in the game, even though general consensus is there is likely to be none.

And if there is no SK in the game, kick/orange/fc is already guaranteed to lose.


FATCHUNK: What is the last card in your hand? Out with it.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:38 GMT
#1428
On December 31 2012 08:35 Chromatically wrote:
@Corazon
The 1-1 theory is probably true. Orange and FC were roleblocked on consecutive nights, but there was a second roleblock on both nights. This means that neither of them are the scum RB, so someone else must be. This of course assumes no fakeclaims, so it's not foolproof, but I think that it's probable.
If FC flips scum, I'll look at you. If Orange is scum, I'll look at Syl.


I'll wait to contest this until after the flip.
Grubby's #1 Fan
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:39 GMT
#1429
On December 31 2012 08:33 FatChunk wrote:
@cake
Well I've been claiming town all along. so yes, I am VT.



Okay, assuming that roleblocked claims are true:

TOWN RB

- If you detect any roleblock claims to be false, you need to step up and lynch the liar.

- if the Town RB has a name starting with C -- you need to step forward and save FatChunk now.
- if the Town RB does not have a name starting with C... sorry, fatchunk, you lied.

Explanation coming soon.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:45 GMT
#1430
I have expressed before that I have high confidence in the rolelocked claims being true.
+ Show Spoiler +

N1:
22 09:08 cake
22 13:36 omni
23 08:45 shz

N2:
26 09:16 cake
26 18:51 orange

N3:
29 15:39 syl
30 04:32 fatchunk

General consensus in this game is to lynch liars -- there is no place for lying townies in a newbie game.
Townies have no incentive to lie about roleblocked claims.
Scum cannot afford to lie about roleblocked claims -- they could be called out for it by town RBs.

-----


(0) mocsta is a jailer, omni is VT
(1) N2 -> either cake and orange are both RBs, or both are not RBs.
(2) N3 -> either syl and fatchunk are both RBs, or both are not RBs.
(3) (0)+(1)+N1 -> both cake and shz are not RBs
(4) (1)+(3) -> orange is not RB.
(5) (3+4) = {cake, orange, shz} are not RBs.

(6) (5)+(2) -> the only possible townRB + scumRB pairs are (syl & fatchunk) and (chrom & corazon)

(H1) FatChunk claims VT to avoid being lynched
(H1)+(6) only a town RB claim from chrom and corazon can save FatChunk now.

------

(more in a bit)


Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
December 30 2012 23:49 GMT
#1431
Just woke up, at this point I have no reason to switch my vote from FC, his points: semi-convincing. The truth in them, there's some truth in it. But am I scum? No.

On another note, RBs both start with C cakepie? seeing as how only 2 people in this town have not been roleblocked and there doesn't seem to be any roleblocked roleblockers....
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 30 2012 23:50 GMT
#1432
I don't follow your logic, cakepie. Why would an RB claim save FC?
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:51 GMT
#1433
If either Chrom or Corazon claims Town RB:
The sole danger is that they are SK fakeclaiming Town RB, to keep mafia alive a while longer, and playing for SK win.

I will use variables C1 and C2 here since it could be either way round:
Between Chrom and Corazon, let's say C1 claims Town RB, but C2 smells a rat. C2 as a townie must counterclaim honestly.

I am betting against Chrom+Corazon being 1 mafia 1 SK, so this should be safe.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 30 2012 23:53 GMT
#1434
Why does this say anything about FC being Goon?
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#1435
On December 31 2012 08:50 Chromatically wrote:
I don't follow your logic, cakepie. Why would an RB claim save FC?


Because under the reasonable assumption that roleblocked claims are all truth, then for FC to be VT, then the two roleblockers must be chrom+corazon.

If roleblocked claims contain faked, then all bets are off. But I don't think that is the case.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
December 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#1436
It would at least prove the 1-1 theory to be true if you were both RBs
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#1437
Well, I did not want to do this, but I'm claiming town RB.

My goals at night were to find the person who was most likely to be scum, but was either hiding in the shadows away from suspicion, or was good and safely disguised as a townie.

My roleblocks were as follows:

N1: Shz- He had lurked most of Day 1, I thought that maybe I could catch him before he was able to start doing real damage, but my roleblock was ineffective.

N2: Cake. This time, I tried a different approach. Cake was someone who had led the town and was doing a very good job directing discussion. I thought that perhaps he could be a really good mafia in disguise. However, this was ineffective as well.

N3: Syl. I tried to go back to RBing someone under the radar to see if I could catch a scum. This was unsuccessful as well.

Maybe I RBd a scum and they just didn't happen to make the kill that night. I'm not saying I am an effective roleblocker, but I am saying that I'm town RB.

I didn't roleblock FC. I didn't want to call bs on his claim because I did not want to reveal my role, but now that it's out in the open, it might as well be known.

##Vote: FatChunk
Grubby's #1 Fan
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#1438
On December 31 2012 08:53 Chromatically wrote:
Why does this say anything about FC being Goon?


VT, not Goon.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
December 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#1439
Well, potentially, depending if one of FC/Orange are indeed scum, which I'm hoping flips over now.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 30 2012 23:56 GMT
#1440
Lies Corazon, I am town RB, you are scum with FC. Full claim with crumbs in a sec.
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