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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 21:34 GMT
#461
So from what I'm hearing, you're not going to get him to post, you're not going to lynch him because he's scummy... you're just going to lynch him for being hard to read.

I mean never mind your "case" on Djo right?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#462
exactly
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#463
And how is that town motivated?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#464
because if you let unreadable scums live they are Incivible
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 15 2012 21:42 GMT
#465
lurk strat is the best scum strat, unless town ignores scumreads and lynches lurkers
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 21:45 GMT
#466
So why shouldn't I lynch you for lurking then? Sure you're posting now, but I had to rip all these answers from ya.

Will you be active, or will I have to lynch you?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
December 15 2012 21:46 GMT
#467
Hey guys, sorry i'm a little late to the party. Lurk doesn't always mean scum.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 21:48 GMT
#468
Oh heya Morbidius welcome (albeit late) to the thread

I haven't seen you play a game 'round these parts - what's your mafia experience?
Are you all caught up to the thread?
Any scum/town reads so far?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 21:57:22
December 15 2012 21:57 GMT
#469
Vote Count!

Jiexian (4) - thrawn2112, DarthPunk, DoYouHas, MrZentor
MrZentor (1) - JieXian
Kushm4sta (1) - Hapahauli
DarthPunk (1) - Djodref

Not Voting (6) - kushm4sta, Morbidius, Eywa-, Drazak, threesr, Mr. Cheesecake

Currently nobody is set to be lynched!

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.




The deadline is in 23 hours at Sunday, Dec 16 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Please make sure to vote and to cast your secret witchcraft votes by then. Anyone who has not voted by the end of the day will be subject to moderator action.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#470
Bah where the hell did you guys go.
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drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
December 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#471
On December 16 2012 06:42 kushm4sta wrote:
lurk strat is the best scum strat, unless town ignores scumreads and lynches lurkers


I definitely don't think that that's true, if you're a lurker, you're not influencing the town decision at all. If all you're doing is lurking, town might not be able to get a scum read on on you, but at the same time you can't force a mislynch, or even have anything to do with a possible mislynch, also around these parts, it's a lot more likely you'll be lynched just for lurking if you're a lurker.

Yeah sorry I haven't been more aggressive hapa, I want to be, but I'm also was holiday shopping all day, and I'm about to put an ssd in my pc and do a windows install, I should be back to post more around when SPL starts tonight. Also, most of my posts haven't been 1-liners, lol.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#472
On December 16 2012 07:14 drazak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 06:42 kushm4sta wrote:
lurk strat is the best scum strat, unless town ignores scumreads and lynches lurkers


I definitely don't think that that's true, if you're a lurker, you're not influencing the town decision at all. If all you're doing is lurking, town might not be able to get a scum read on on you, but at the same time you can't force a mislynch, or even have anything to do with a possible mislynch, also around these parts, it's a lot more likely you'll be lynched just for lurking if you're a lurker.

Yeah sorry I haven't been more aggressive hapa, I want to be, but I'm also was holiday shopping all day, and I'm about to put an ssd in my pc and do a windows install, I should be back to post more around when SPL starts tonight. Also, most of my posts haven't been 1-liners, lol.


Mind giving us some of your scumreads (or any reads really)? Haven't gotten much out of you.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
December 15 2012 22:18 GMT
#473
Maybe djo, need to reread exactly what he said but I didn't like some of his comments and his obsession with how many blues there were and how exactly they are voted for. I was reading it the same way you were tbh.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 15 2012 22:19 GMT
#474
I think "Lurking is the most effective scum strategy for its difficulty," would be a more accurate statement.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
December 15 2012 22:22 GMT
#475
EBWOP

What I was trying to say there was, town isn't super concerned with how many blues there are and how to vote for them, until they vote for them, and I don't think anyone should have voted by now as we have 2 people who haven't posted a single time, and someone who has made one single post. Until they weigh in, I might park a vote on them, gonna think about that while I install windows and some software.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 22:25 GMT
#476
I'm reading the Djo stuff as more townie now - a townie could very well be obsessed with blues. Plus our entire argument was largely a misunderstanding (and he was correct too).

What do you make of JieXian's first post that everyone jumped on?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 15 2012 22:27 GMT
#477
huh so I think kush perfectly matches his scum meta
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 22:29 GMT
#478
explain sir
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
December 15 2012 22:30 GMT
#479
Can you link to a decent example of the scum meta that he's matching? I'm pretty sure I've never played with kush when he's scum. This definitely isn't how I've seen him play as town, but I do think some people can mature.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
December 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#480
@DP - I think the optimal way to play is to do our best to get the witch hunter to miss. Losing 2 townies, good or bad, is always worse than losing 1. I don't think this is going to convince you, so I'm not going to bring it up again.



I'm feeling more comfortable with my vote on JX right now.

His initial post was rather scummy, the thing to note about it is that it looks constructed (the phrases used when talking about hapa and MrZ, "mindless babbling" & "relative non-chalance". What makes me think he is scum is the progression of his pushing MrZ.

A behavior read.
On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:
Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk

At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction.

Later I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot

Show nested quote +
Djo why did you vote for Mr Zentor


But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another

##Vote MrZentor

An unsupported meta read with some WIFOM.
On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote:
I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.

I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)

Based on MrZentor's "uselessness" as you guys termed it, my meta read on him shows that he's acting differently but most of all, if he were scum, he'd have nothing else to do but sit and watch because dp and hapa were in the spotlight and not take any blame.

Meaning he doesn't need to participate and make/risk any reads. I mean take a look at everyone else that's posting, they are all reads (be it weak or strong or sheep reads)

Finally providing support for his meta read. Not conclusive enough considering he is ignoring paranoia (MrZ's most recent town game).
On December 16 2012 01:23 JieXian wrote:
tell me how zentor's behavior isn't weird as compared to 2 of his other town games

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341663&user=137099
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&user=137099

0 reads 0 risks this game, because town has been going the wrong way, because he doesn't need to.


This reads like he is trying to justify his stance on MrZ after the fact. Instead of finding MrZ scummy and looking into him, the presenting good reasons to vote him, JX voted him, then went in search of the reasons when pressured. This strikes me as scummy.

I already pointed out how his first post feels constructed, and if that is true and he spent time on that post, why didn't he spend time backing up his vote on MrZ right from the start?


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