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Blazinghand
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Hapahauli
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
i'll lynch lurkers LURKERS i will happily lynch you | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
I'm not sure what's scummy about DP yet but djo bro, I'm not sure you're thinking things out in regards to hapa. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Source: my last three town games. and this game. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote: Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit. Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP? They are both as likely to read the OP. But the witchcraft votes part is more likely to be read in details by the town. It turns out that Hapa has misread the OP (his behaviors feels genuine), so my point against him was not so relevant. Weak votes in the early game are a way to get the discussion started. By the way, did you read the witchcraft votes part in the OP or not ? Did you do the same mistake as Hapa ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 15 2012 11:52 Blazinghand wrote: You can use one of your votes to cast a "no-one" vote. If "no-one" wins, it blocks out a spot in the election. Today there are 10 townies alive, which means you are electing three blues, which means you must cast three witchcraft votes. One of these votes may be a vote for "no-one", and if it is in the top 3 choices town will have one less blue role than usual tonight. The OP was pretty straightforward imo. We cannot force a 10 VT - 3 goons setup. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 15 2012 11:56 Djodref wrote: They are both as likely to read the OP. But the witchcraft votes part is more likely to be read in details by the town. It turns out that Hapa has misread the OP (his behaviors feels genuine), so my point against him was not so relevant. Weak votes in the early game are a way to get the discussion started. By the way, did you read the witchcraft votes part in the OP or not ? Did you do the same mistake as Hapa ? So you were voting for a good player based on a coinflip? Is that it? If both scum and town are just as likely to not read the op, and you vote for someone based on not reading the OP you are just randomly voting for hapa, a good town player historically, based on a 3/13 chance he is scum? My reading/ not reading the OP is irrelevant to my alignment so I don;t feel the need to talk about that with you. especially after mario and learning of your penchant as scu to force these kind of discussions. How about you talk about something other than the set-up? how about you do some scumhunting. My vote will stay where it is until that happens. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 15 2012 11:59 Djodref wrote: The OP was pretty straightforward imo. We cannot force a 10 VT - 3 goons setup. Stop speculating set-up now. Scumhunt or die. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote: Wow your an idiot. ##Vote: Djodref. Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless. Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous. Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored. There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far. So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one. But as it turns out, Djo was right. And then DP turns around and completely forgets about it and tunnels him for the opposite. On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote: Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit. Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP? But on top of all this, he has one vote on him, and he's already whining... On December 15 2012 11:55 DarthPunk wrote: Fuck I hate playing town. People always want to lynch me day one. Source: my last three town games. and this game. Lynch this sucker. He's scum. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 15 2012 11:55 drazak wrote: Hey if you're lurking we're gonna kill you, cut it out. I'm not sure what's scummy about DP yet but djo bro, I'm not sure you're thinking things out in regards to hapa. Hapa came out with an idea that was looking good for town but was impossible to achieve if you were really paying attention on how the witchcraft votes are working. I thought it was a cheap way to look town and also a mistake from a mafia player who didn't read carefully the part of the OP destined to town roles. It turns out that it was a misunderstanding. or at least it looks like it. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Regarding your tunnel on Djo, do you actually believe he's scummy, or are you forcing yourself to tunnel him, or are you scum? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 15 2012 12:02 Hapahauli wrote: Well the problem is that DP tunneled you (Djo) without having ever even asked or cared about one of the key points he found you scummy for. DP found you initially scummy because he seemingly believed that a 10/3 setup was achievable. But as it turns out, Djo was right. And then DP turns around and completely forgets about it and tunnels him for the opposite. But on top of all this, he has one vote on him, and he's already whining... Lynch this sucker. He's scum. No. the vote wasn't for voting against your plan. It was for voting you when there was absolutely no reason for you to be scum. I didn't really care about the plan at all. It was also for being an idiot about not sharing town reads. I didn't change the reason Ivoted for him. The reason I voted him still stands regardless of the fate of your 'idea' he was voting you for absolutely no reason and was justifying it with something that was not alignment indicative. The thing I noted later was not the 'new' reason for my vote but an ADDITIONAL reason. Also whining is not alignment indicative. Which you should well know. I whined as town in Mario. Your case is a dog that needs to be put down. I actually can't see town hapa making a case this horrible. But I have seen scum hapa make shitty cases like this. ##unvote ##vote: hapa | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 15 2012 12:07 Hapahauli wrote: @ DP Regarding your tunnel on Djo, do you actually believe he's scummy, or are you forcing yourself to tunnel him, or are you scum? I thought you said it was because I was scum? stop hedging your bets scummer number one. I am trying to figure out if djo was just being an idiot or is actually scummer number two. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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thrawn2112
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Let me type up the complete rendition of the case then. In the mean-time, on to your "defense" On December 15 2012 12:10 DarthPunk wrote: No. the vote wasn't for voting against your plan. It was for voting you when there was absolutely no reason for you to be scum. I didn't really care about the plan at all. It was also for being an idiot about not sharing town reads. I didn't change the reason Ivoted for him. The reason I voted him still stands regardless of the fate of your 'idea' he was voting you for absolutely no reason and was justifying it with something that was not alignment indicative. The thing I noted later was not the 'new' reason for my vote but an ADDITIONAL reason. Also whining is not alignment indicative. Which you should well know. I whined as town in Mario. Your case is a dog that needs to be put down. I actually can't see town hapa making a case this horrible. But I have seen scum hapa make shitty cases like this. ##unvote ##vote: hapa Whining itself isn't allignment indicative. Whining when there's no reason for you to do so (i.e. one vote on you) is. Secondly, your tunnel reads as incredibly forced. I'm pretty convinced at this point that Djo is townie. All his reactions have been very guenuine, even if his plan was bad. I find it inconceivable that you think Djo is scum at this point given the whole setup mechanic thing is now resolved. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
1. start of the game and everyone is lurking 2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 15 2012 12:02 DarthPunk wrote: So you were voting for a good player based on a coinflip? Is that it? If both scum and town are just as likely to not read the op, and you vote for someone based on not reading the OP you are just randomly voting for hapa, a good town player historically, based on a 3/13 chance he is scum? My reading/ not reading the OP is irrelevant to my alignment so I don;t feel the need to talk about that with you. especially after mario and learning of your penchant as scu to force these kind of discussions. How about you talk about something other than the set-up? how about you do some scumhunting. My vote will stay where it is until that happens. It's not a coinflip at all. I've read the witchcraft vote part in the OP carefully and I expect every town player to do so. Mafia players don't have witchcraft votes so I expect them to read this part less carefully. My thinking process is valid. Why do you think that it is not better than a random vote ? Why have you failed to read the part of the OP specifically addressed to town players ? In mario, I was speculating about the setup to avoid contributing. Here I'm trying to identify town players and scum players by checking if they had the same reactions, thoughts process that I have. For me, you couldn't reasonably come up with a 10-3 VT-goon setup idea if you were town. It is also a good way to look town to propose such ideas. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote: dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons 1. start of the game and everyone is lurking 2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics He was voting for someone, based on nothing whatsoever. That is what I am accusing him for. | ||
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