• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:50
CEST 04:50
KST 11:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent8Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues9LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris73
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers? #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group A [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1138 users

Witchcraft Mini Mafia - Page 16

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 160 Next
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#301
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:12 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:06 Djodref wrote:
On December 08 2012 09:45 Blazinghand wrote:
*snip*

Witchcraft:
Each day, in addition to the normal vote, there is a secret vote done via PM to elect Blues. Each player, regardless of alignment, has X votes (See below) they can distribute as they want, but can't put more than one vote on a guy or vote for themselves. They can vote to give the power to nobody, but only with one vote. The results are secret, though of course people can claim their votes in the thread... if they want to out the blues that is :D At the start of the night, the X top winners can choose from the following pool of Powers, which they retain until the next election:
*snip*


@ Hapa

I cannot believe you didn't read this...


Yeah so what? That means that we can choose not to give the power to anyone.


Yeah, that means that your policy of not voting anyone is impossible. I don't think that a town Hapa would not care a bit about how he can use his votes. You couldn't have come up with this idea if you had read the OP, which was the first thing I did when I got my PM.


The hell are you talking about? It explicitly states there that we can chose to vote for no one if we want to.


I have 3 witchcraft votes, why do you think you only have one ?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#302
Since there seems to be some confusion: can we chose not to vote for people in the hidden witchcraft ballot?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#303
On December 15 2012 11:15 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:12 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:06 Djodref wrote:
On December 08 2012 09:45 Blazinghand wrote:
*snip*

Witchcraft:
Each day, in addition to the normal vote, there is a secret vote done via PM to elect Blues. Each player, regardless of alignment, has X votes (See below) they can distribute as they want, but can't put more than one vote on a guy or vote for themselves. They can vote to give the power to nobody, but only with one vote. The results are secret, though of course people can claim their votes in the thread... if they want to out the blues that is :D At the start of the night, the X top winners can choose from the following pool of Powers, which they retain until the next election:
*snip*


@ Hapa

I cannot believe you didn't read this...


Yeah so what? That means that we can choose not to give the power to anyone.


Yeah, that means that your policy of not voting anyone is impossible. I don't think that a town Hapa would not care a bit about how he can use his votes. You couldn't have come up with this idea if you had read the OP, which was the first thing I did when I got my PM.


The hell are you talking about? It explicitly states there that we can chose to vote for no one if we want to.


I have 3 witchcraft votes, why do you think you only have one ?


This is how voting works according to the OP:
Either we cast 3 votes on 3 separate people.
Or we cast 1 vote saying we don't want to vote anyone.

There's no middle ground (i.e. you can't vote for only 1-2 people, it's either 3 or nothing).
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#304
anyway. In terms of the witchcraft voting. This is what I am going to do.

I am going to vote for bad townies. Then scum will have to choose between blue sniping useless townies or killing off good players who will fuck their shit up if left alone for long enough.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#305
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


So answer me this Djo:
1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter?
2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting?
3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored.


1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies
2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads
3) True, but impossible in this game
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#306
On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


So answer me this Djo:
1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter?
2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting?
3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored.


1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies
2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads
3) True, but impossible in this game


so djo, when someone asks you if you want to lynch player x but you have a strong town read on player x, what are you going to say?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#307
On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


So answer me this Djo:
1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter?
2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting?
3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored.


1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies
2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads
3) True, but impossible in this game


1- you are valuing blues to highly

2- That is a ridiculous proposition

3- So you were voting someone for a plan that was impossible. But you knew that. So you are essentially voting for someone for not reading the OP?

Do you think town or scum are less likely to read the OP?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#308
On December 15 2012 11:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:15 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:12 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:06 Djodref wrote:
On December 08 2012 09:45 Blazinghand wrote:
*snip*

Witchcraft:
Each day, in addition to the normal vote, there is a secret vote done via PM to elect Blues. Each player, regardless of alignment, has X votes (See below) they can distribute as they want, but can't put more than one vote on a guy or vote for themselves. They can vote to give the power to nobody, but only with one vote. The results are secret, though of course people can claim their votes in the thread... if they want to out the blues that is :D At the start of the night, the X top winners can choose from the following pool of Powers, which they retain until the next election:
*snip*


@ Hapa

I cannot believe you didn't read this...


Yeah so what? That means that we can choose not to give the power to anyone.


Yeah, that means that your policy of not voting anyone is impossible. I don't think that a town Hapa would not care a bit about how he can use his votes. You couldn't have come up with this idea if you had read the OP, which was the first thing I did when I got my PM.


The hell are you talking about? It explicitly states there that we can chose to vote for no one if we want to.


I have 3 witchcraft votes, why do you think you only have one ?


This is how voting works according to the OP:
Either we cast 3 votes on 3 separate people.
Or we cast 1 vote saying we don't want to vote anyone.

There's no middle ground (i.e. you can't vote for only 1-2 people, it's either 3 or nothing).


The OP is pretty clear imo.
You always have 3 votes, the thing you can do is :
Vote Player A
Vote Player B
Vote No-One
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#309
Oh hmmm maaaaaaaybe. I don't think it's well-defined in the OP, but that's a possibility. We'll I'll wait for BH to respond then.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#310
On December 15 2012 11:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


So answer me this Djo:
1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter?
2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting?
3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored.


1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies
2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads
3) True, but impossible in this game


so djo, when someone asks you if you want to lynch player x but you have a strong town read on player x, what are you going to say?


In your case, if one of my strong town read is going to be lynched, I'm going to defend it. If the guy is in the danger to be lynched, he is not going to receive WC votes, and anyway the mafia is not going to get rid of him.

Let's say that we should avoid to give our towntells on players in the thread.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 15 2012 02:27 GMT
#311
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:30 GMT
#312
That individual comment? Not so much. Our entire argument though seemed to stem from unclear wording regarding mechanics in the OP though.

So
##Unvote
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:32 GMT
#313
On December 15 2012 11:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:19 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


So answer me this Djo:
1) Why are you so fearful of the witchhunter?
2) Why are you pushing a plan that compromises our scumhunting?
3) True or false: a 10-3 VT-Goon setup is town favored.


1) Because I don't want us to lose blues / obvious townies
2) I honestly think that we can scumhunt without stating our townreads
3) True, but impossible in this game


1- you are valuing blues to highly

2- That is a ridiculous proposition

3- So you were voting someone for a plan that was impossible. But you knew that. So you are essentially voting for someone for not reading the OP?

Do you think town or scum are less likely to read the OP?


1- the problem is not the blues, the problem is that town players are going to get insta-shot

2- I mean, you focus only on your scum reads, you keep the towntells you find for yourself, is that a better proposition ?

3- I have witchcraft vote and my first reaction has been to check how they work. I was expecting every other town player to do that. Did you not notice that scum players don't have Witchcraft votes. Plus, it's the early game, we have to vote people for small reasons to get the discussion started. I think this reason was good enough. I was hoping that people would discuss my first vote on MrZentor, but this vote on Hapa has been more efficient.

By the way, I've noticed that you didn't read the OP as well
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:34 GMT
#314
On December 15 2012 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.


Actually kush, talk to me about that a bit. What about it would you see as scummy?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#315
Oh looks like Djo is right on this one. You have three votes and can vote for "nobody", but "nobody" counts as a person and you can't vote a person more than once.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#316
On December 15 2012 11:27 kushm4sta wrote:
"in not retarded I'm town"
-djo

does that strike anyone else as an intensely scummy thing to say? not sure why but i read it and my scumsenses went off the charts.


Why so nitpikcing ? Why didn't you bother to quote all my one-liner ?

The full quote is

On December 15 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
I'm not retarded, I'm town, I'm interested into the way I should use my witchcraft votes, obviously you both don't


which makes perfect sense in the context (me answering to people calling me retarded when they failed to read and/or to understand the OP)

By the way, it looks like Hapa genuinely misread the OP, regardless of his alignment

##Unvote




DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:47 GMT
#317
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 15 2012 02:49 GMT
#318
On December 15 2012 11:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:12 Djodref wrote:You couldn't have come up with this idea if you had read the OP, which was the first thing I did when I got my PM.



? could you explain more about this


I've checked how the witchcraft votes where working exactly. I read it the first time when the OP came out but I didn't remember exactly how it worked when I joined for real. The players list made me join by the way
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 15 2012 02:50 GMT
#319
DP is scum btw.

##Vote DarthPunk
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 15 2012 02:51 GMT
#320
On December 15 2012 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:
DP is scum btw.

##Vote DarthPunk


care to provide some reasoning for that vote hapa?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 160 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 192
Nathanias 93
ProTech66
CosmosSc2 52
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 358
Shuttle 294
sSak 29
NaDa 24
Icarus 10
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1133
NeuroSwarm105
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 818
Counter-Strike
fl0m2014
taco 198
semphis_23
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0388
Other Games
summit1g5914
shahzam1064
Day[9].tv365
Maynarde145
RuFF_SC222
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1862
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings94
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Mapu5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler32
Other Games
• Scarra1187
• Day9tv365
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
7h 10m
BeSt vs Alone
Queen vs Bisu
Kung Fu Cup
9h 10m
PiGosaur Monday
21h 10m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 9h
OSC
1d 13h
OSC
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
4 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.