EPTAlso Z bo was pushing Tunkeg D1, that's why I asked you if you thought that they could be scum together.
Tunkeg is the most likely to flip scum.
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Also Z bo was pushing Tunkeg D1, that's why I asked you if you thought that they could be scum together. Tunkeg is the most likely to flip scum. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
OMG this game is so frustrating. XD I'll rewrite it, never fear. I just saw that post by Zbos and lol'd. He was someone that was in my post, so I thought it relevant totally forgetting I hadn't posted yet. God I'm an idiot. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 14:57 thrawn2112 wrote: Boson, who would u lynch out of thrown and djo? Djo who would you lynch out of thrown and boson? Both of you seem to be reading town on the other and myself, I don't get it What the fuck are you doing with that kind of posts ? Why do you keep mentioning yourself as a third person ? Is kush hydraing with you in this game ? I don't want to lynch any of you. I don't see why you are convinced that one of us have to be mafia and I really don't think so at the moment. If I was forced to chose between you and Z Bo, I would lynch z bo, but I doubt that it would ever happen. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Honestly Djo, I was composing a post and checked the thread before posting it to see if there were any ninjas and in a rush to find that gif, completely spaced my whole huge post was in my clipboard. OMG this game is so frustrating. XD I'll rewrite it, never fear. I just saw that post by Zbos and lol'd. He was someone that was in my post, so I thought it relevant totally forgetting I hadn't posted yet. God I'm an idiot. I feel you... It happens to me from time to time. I hope that you are going to address Tunkeg in that post. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On December 14 2012 06:24 Hapahauli wrote: @ Tunkeg Why do you find people going after Clarity a scumtell? It's certainly proves stupidity, but not scumminess. And him doing a chainsaw defense of VE on me, without really wanting to commit before others do first is really telling. Also his "attack" on me for being overconfident is something I would expect of scum, not town. On December 14 2012 09:27 Hapahauli wrote: I'm not liking Tunkeg too much at the moment. Not sure if I could lynch him over Bluelightz, but he just seems way too sure of himself in his filter. Palmar is confirmed town! Like Palmar is a town read, but confirmed town is a huuuuuge stretch. 100% sure that WBG is scum, no doubts! Is sure that scum doesn't have a vigi... WHAT? So VE and Hapahauli is probably scum together. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
From D1: + Show Spoiler [Vivax] + On December 11 2012 04:05 Z-BosoN wrote: Yea, vivax's post seems too much like "look at me trying hard to scumhunt" The lack of follow-up also worries me. Never follows up on this. + Show Spoiler [debears] + On December 11 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote: @debears I see you've got some Adam going on for ya. I think you are getting too riled up over expecting someone to go balls out on a day one suspicion. You, for example, are not nearly as spammy as your day one self. I don't think this aligns with your townie play, but I don't think it necessarily makes you scummy. I am curious to hear from adam his stance on thrawn, as he seemed to have dropped it.. Defends Adam here as an added bonus. + Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo] + On December 11 2012 04:18 Z-BosoN wrote: That won't do. Why did you say 80% chance yatta yatta here? Why not give the explanation you gave later on when ppl started asking questions? I don't even know what the relevance is here. Bugs percentage is completely arbitrary anyway. + Show Spoiler [Munk-E] + On December 11 2012 04:50 Z-BosoN wrote: It's Z-Boson. It's funny you should mention Munk-E, because he has a town read on WBG, even though he disagrees with WBG's logic. Does anyone find this post right here: Any close to being normal? He then votes for Djodref after making a big case, only to drop it and vote for Tunkeg. Interestingly enough, he does so in the name of consolidation, yet is one of the only people not on the Adam wagon. He can say he thought Adam was town all he wants: he only unvoted Djodref in the name of consolidation though, and consolidate he did not. He pushed a counter-wagon. And if he wanted to do that, he could have stayed on Djodref. ##Unvote: Clarity_nl ##Vote: ZBoson | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
His "martyr reads" and Adam's reads ended up being strikingly similar, but Tunkeg's came first and Adam flipped scum. He MIGHT be scum, but I'm not really interested in lynching him today. I prefer to see ZBoson flip before making a final judgement call on Tunkeg. If I can't get a ZBoson lynch and Tunkeg is the only other alternative however, I would vote for Tunkeg. | ||
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Vivax
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I think jays reaction was quite telling, he's prolly in scumteam with Z-Boson and thought he witnessed a hardcore scumslip that would get him lynched. Overreacting, he instasheeped you. So, let's kill one of them, and if he's scum, let's kill the other one, aight? I'll look better into Z-Boson later before voting for him tho. I'll be back home at like 6 PM/18:00 CET, in about 9 h | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I don't think that Z-Bo lapsus is relevant by the way | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On December 14 2012 17:38 Vivax wrote: LOL I've been laughing for like 10 minutes irl after seein that, VE. I think jays reaction was quite telling, he's prolly in scumteam with Z-Boson and thought he witnessed a hardcore scumslip that would get him lynched. Overreacting, he instasheeped you. So, let's kill one of them, and if he's scum, let's kill the other one, aight? I'll look better into Z-Boson later before voting for him tho. I'll be back home at like 6 PM/18:00 CET, in about 9 h vivax, WTF? since when have you wanted to lynch boson? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
"I'll look better into Z-Boson later before voting for him tho." - coming from a guy who hasn't been wanting to lynch boson till literally that very post so you're either scum or you're town who is randomly ditching your scumreads and planning on voting for a guy you haven't finished "looking into" yet... | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
When in doubt policy lynch. I'm not sold on a tunkeg lynch. Hapa is defending all the wrong people and I didn't like Munk-E from day 1, but I don't think I can reasonably attack him for scum without more information and analysis. The Bluelightz thing is another instance of someone whose only possible defense is being too scummy to be scum. I'm not gonna defend him based on that, and I wish we could like quadruple lynch today. I'm also very wary of VisceraEyes. But, in the end, I'm kinda confused because so many people are playing like retards. Jay's Clarity&Palmar are scum theory is so out there that it's almost lynchworthy, but hey, apparently it's okay to be retarded and thus make the game 10x harder than it should be. And so, I'm voting Djodref. I am suggesting a lynch on Djodref for three reasons: 1. Attempting twice to go after another player over Adam The only defense for Djodref here is that he's too scummy to be scum. The theory is that no scum would so openly and ridiculously blatantly attempt to derail a scum lynch. It's a valid point, but maybe Djodref knows that? Here's his attempt to go after Tunkeg: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17206691 Here's his attempt to start a wagon on Jay: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17210095 I would like to additionally point out that both these attempts come after Djodref claims to be slightly leaning scum on Adam: On December 11 2012 13:01 Djodref wrote: I've watched Palmar's video and I've changed my mind a little bit about your interactions with Adam. As a result, I would lean town on you and slightly scum on Adam but I'm not yet sold on him being scum. The latest "scumslip" is not a scumslip in my opinion because it would have been one if he was totally sure that you were scum, which doesn't look to be the case. The fact that he dropped you is reasonable but it's not very indicative of his alignment because it was the best thing to do as scum and as town. I'm waiting to see where he is going to go with Vivax but I think that jay is more likely to be scum than him at this point. Generally people don't go so much out of their way to protect their scumreads? 2. Defending flipped scum repeatedly, yet never seeing any reason to interact with said scum Defending someone you think is town is fine. The problem is that generally you have a good reason for defending them. The fact that Djodref never tried to directly interact with someone who clearly was a pretty strong townread at the time looks kinda bad. I have a serious problem with this. Head to Djodref's filter, look at how much he talks ABOUT adam, but never TO adam. Coincidence? Maybe. But it's enough to raise alarms for me. Here's a link to his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=284165¤tpage=All Here's a link to my post where I checked all the people he interacted with: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17224951 3. When I asked about this strange lack of interactions, Djodref directly lied to me. Lynch all liars is a good policy. I think we should enforce it. Djodref's lie can be seen in the following posts: On December 13 2012 20:52 Palmar wrote: I also find it intriguing you never once addressed Adam, yet you have 93 instances of his name in your filter (including inside quotes). You directly interacted with both Tunkeg and Jay. You also attempted to counter-wagon Adam's lynch using both of them as targets. On December 13 2012 20:59 Djodref wrote: I was persuaded that jay and Tunkeg were mafia yesterday and far less sure about Adam. The lack of interactions with Adam could be explained because I was a bit wary of the debears/Adam interactions and didn't want to step in. After, I went sleeping and Adam went lurking. I didn't feel the need to interact with him yesterday, that would be my best explanation. But this is clearly false. As Djodref was indeed more than comfortable with stepping in to defend adam, as can be seen on multiple occasions in his filter, and I showed an example of three such posts in this reply to his explanation: On December 13 2012 21:03 Palmar wrote: List of Djodref not stepping in debears/Adam interactions: To be fair, he did claim he forgot about those posts. I don't believe a word of it. Djodref, your time has come. You are a protector of filth, and a liar. The good people of Liquidia shall see you hang in the name of justice. ##Vote Djodref | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
example: On December 11 2012 04:17 Z-BosoN wrote: @debears I see you've got some Adam going on for ya. I think you are getting too riled up over expecting someone to go balls out on a day one suspicion. You, for example, are not nearly as spammy as your day one self. I don't think this aligns with your townie play, but I don't think it necessarily makes you scummy. I am curious to hear from adam his stance on thrawn, as he seemed to have dropped it.. note that the only thing this posts accomplishes is soft defending adam. he doesn't call adam townie or scummy, nor does he call debears townie or scummy Here's the most in depth thing boson had to say about adam: On December 12 2012 02:09 Z-BosoN wrote: Well, like I said, debears seems to be doing some massive twisting of words to me. What I found suspicious on Adam's filter is this contradiction in his idea of a case -> vote relationship, which I'd like him to explain. He first criticizes debears for not voting him after making a case and votes him: This is funny to say the least, because later on, though, when he's made a case on vivax, here's his stance when questioned on why he wasn't voting vivax: I mean, it's ok that he makes a huge case and doesn't vote, but when debears did that it made him scum? Weird. Since we need to consolidate though, I am more confident in a Tunkeg lynch at the moment. Imo this is one of boson's scummiest posts. He does bring up issues with adam's play but ends up dismissing it as "weird." That one word "weird" is what does it for me. and as an added bonus, boson does not appear in adam's final list of reads | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Day 2 Vote Count Bluelightz (2): Clarity_nl (0): Tunkeg (3): Djodref, marvellosity, Hapahauli VisceraEyes (1): Tunkeg jaybrundage (1): Vivax Djodref (1): Z-BosoN (3): thrawn2112, jaybrundage, VisceraEyes 7 votes needed to lynch. No one currently set to be lynched. Deadline in 14.5 hours at 01:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Vivax
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On December 14 2012 21:53 Vivax wrote: Also, I skipped a lesson this afternoon if you wonder why I'm back already. i wasn't, but now i'm wondering why you're wondering if i'm wondering why you're back already | ||
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