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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 14 2012 11:30 Djodref wrote: @ jay Can you make me a list with your main points against me ? @ thrawn Could you do the same ? What would be your tentative scteam ? I already have. I'll look thru your new posts later and see if they still support you being scum. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
But I still thi.k that my previous point for a town munke is valid. Hapa, I appreciaye your read on me but I would like you to find scum. Honestly I think that BL ahas the least cjances to flip scum among Bl Tu.keg and Ve. Would you like to lynch VE today ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 11:39 jaybrundage wrote: I already have. I'll look thru your new posts later and see if they still support you being scum. When you are done, I would really appreciate a list witb your main pints against me. You are puahing for a mislynch now so you netter come with good reasons. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 14 2012 11:45 Djodref wrote: I also think that Hapa could be buddying me because He spends more tiㄷ defending me than fi.ding scum. But I still thi.k that my previous point for a town munke is valid. Hapa, I appreciaye your read on me but I would like you to find scum. Honestly I think that BL ahas the least cjances to flip scum among Bl Tu.keg and Ve. Would you like to lynch VE today ? I"ve made my reads really really clear. VE's giving me more of a dumb town vibe than malicious scum. I want to lynch Bluelightz, but Tunkeg is rapidly climbing my list and is a clear #2. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Now there's Djodref. There are more things I find scummy in his filter than BL, but there's also some things I find townier too. His vote on thrawn was bad and was kinda along the lines of falling into what Adam did. He questioned him repeatedly, and even when it should have been clear that thrawn was probably town, he still ended up chucking a vote on him. Tied into this is that he concentrated on wbg's random 80% number way more than seemed necessary. Generally Djo's whole handling of the Day 1 stuff with adam doesn't look good. On December 10 2012 15:31 Djodref wrote: So, I guess you are satisfied with your vote on Adam right now. According to me, Adam has been pretty clear on his stance on thrawn and I disagree with you about him: I don't see anything to blame him for right now. I'll let you do what you feel like but I'll voice my concerns if you seem mistaken. For example, right now, I feel like you should better vote for jay instead of Adam. I mean, that's just an example, but similar stuff pops up enough. Djo also concentrates on wifom stuff quite a bit. Like when he was talking about Munk-E posting his stuff on bugs, or when discussing the night kills with regards to BL. That's reminiscent of his scumplay. I don't see his lynchtime shenannies as particularly townie either. They're just what they are, there's no reason scum or town can't make them. Repeatedly he makes passive-aggressive threats to Z-Bo about finding him scummy. Both Palmar and I picked up on this at different times in the thread. It's a really insidious way to try to get someone to stop attacking you. Actually I find this scummier than his actions around Adam during Day 1. Anyways, there's a few things that give me pause. Although I know he's capable of it as scum, Djo seems pretty invested. His analysis of the bugs night 1 stuff seems to come from a townie mindset. Also posts like this: On December 13 2012 18:47 Djodref wrote: This is not true at all. Adam flipped scum and his list post was saying that WBG was scum. It didn't change your opinion at all. Adam and Tunkeg lists look almost the same, it's just lists fitting the general consensus. What's up with your double standards ? He's willing to carry on attacking Palmar even when plenty of the thread is suspicious of him. Kinda puts himself out there. So anyways, Djo is pretty suspicious to me for several reasons, but just recently he's come across with a few more townie things. At any rate, I'm not interested in lynching him today, because I think Tunkeg has a far higher chance of flipping scum. Basically overall I agree with Hapa's assessment that Tunkeg hasn't done anything to make me think he's town. Or at least his small glimpses aren't enough to overturn the rest of his play. His Day 1 contained no scumhunting until he was finally forced to do something to save his ass. Spoilered for length: + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2012 02:17 Tunkeg wrote: So I will probably lynched tonight and really I am not that bothered by it, because it will give you some good pointers on who you can trust this game, and who should be scrutinized. Palmar is basicly confirmed town for me at this point. If he was scum he could have easily pushed me with the rest of you. As he stopped reading before he got to me in his video. If he did in fact read his PM after that video, and had flipped scum I think he would be going with the flow, and going for me. If there is a JK in this game he should definately jail Palmar to protect him from harm. He is the town that scum will be gunning for, 100%. Adam is very likely scum at this point. I think he plays exellent as town, at least he have the games I have played with him, but is easily figured out when scum. This game he have been very vague, and unconfrontational and filled up his post with mostly nonsense. He have put out his feelers on multiple players to see if he can get something started. The kicker though is his less than convincing last post where he says I have a high chance of flipping scum. When adam says stuff like this I know he is either scum, or fed up with the game, he is to good to just put an unreasoned vote on me like that. I believe he is scum. Clarity_nl have to be town. His play so far have been very pro-town in my eyes. All that he have done so far are screaming town to me. He asks the right kind of questions, he calls people out when he thinks they are scummy, and he have even made a little case. If he isn't town I will muchachoes surprised. thrawn212 I have a townread on. Yes, he made a stupid joke play in the beginning. Yes he is totally missreading me, to such a degree that I find it laughable. But I think he is a stupid (in lack of a better word) townie, and not a scum player. I feel his intentions are good, but that he isn't really thinking things through. A tip for you thrawn, find some townplayer to sheep, that is pretty much the best you can do for town. wherebugsgo is probably scum this game. You should look into him after killing adam on day 2. A part from his 80%preliminary scumread on Palmar, which is so very useless, he have basicly done nothing but trying to get me lynched while leaving numerous backdoors open which he can slide away into if his push on me fails, Adam, Munk-E. Adam being a choice he is pretty much forced to have on his list, as he is very obviously scummy. And even though wherebugsgo does anything to win an arguement, he is missrepresenting facts and twisting words to such a degree that it is ridculous. My favorite thus far is: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2012 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote: generally with Adam and Tunkeg if they shy away from discussion they're probably scum. A lot of the time I find that when they are town I notice when they're present and know their opinions, and when they are scum they don't say anything useful. Take Adam and LI for example. Adam was incredibly passive and I put him on my scumlist at some point because I kept thinking, damn, Adam isn't doing anything, but no one noticed him. (I also didn't bring attention to him because I was more concerned with VE and that stupid Toad + VE shit but this is irrelevant to my point) Adam I know for a fact is complacent and passive as scum, and that's how his play here is. I don't feel like he has made any strong posts and he doesn't seem to have anything to contribute either. Tunkeg tends to draw attention to himself as town (usually unintentionally) by putting forth his opinions or reads or doing things that people don't like for whatever reason. I know I myself have chewed him out for doing things like that. I don't recall ever playing with him when he was scum, but I imagine that his scum play is similar to most other players lately; just really complacent and passive. Where he actually knows my scummeta without me ever having played scum on here. That is pretty impressive, and twisty, and made up, and bs... When someone goes after me like WBG have done in this game I usually ask myself: scummy or stupid? I think WBG's townplay is above avarage for sure, and I don't think he is as stupid as his posts in this game makes him out to be. So the conclusion is that he is scum. jaybrundage is scummy to me as I previously stated. He haven't posted much since, but I still find his posts very very fluffy and without content. He is unwilling to commit to any of his "reads" and he contradicts himself within the same posts, like: + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2012 12:27 jaybrundage wrote: I swear to god if thrawn doesnt explain him self. Hes the most anti town player i have seen in a while. Frustrating really. I am only hesitant to vote him because i dont like early bandwagons in general. It hurts the conversation and shit to read if we all are voting the same person. Regardless of how unlogical his claims maybe (for town). Thrawn can you please drop your sharade and just attempt to explain your reasoning. Or as i said before your gonna get lynched Djodref I am leaning scum on, for all the same reasons as before. He have made his fair share of posts, but all I see in them is .................. ....................... ........................... (nothingness). He also made a case on me that is less than weak. Vivax I am back to a neutral stance on. I am not sure wheather his questions have been made to look active, or if he is just lazy, stupid and reads bad enough to not see that his questions have allready been answered previously. Also a player that if town, should find a good townie to just sheep. The rest is pretty much under the radar for me. But I would be watching VE when he pops up again, he is quite easy to read when he starts posting. ##Vote Adam PS: I'll stick around for awhile, playing some Dota, and I might pop in and answer you if I feel the need to do so. If I don't it is either because your question is stupid, I find you stupid/annoying and are ignoring you or that I simply missed it. Anyways, feel free to lynch me, at least then you know Palmar is pretty much confirmed town. This is probably of more value to the town than me sticking around. Remember to protect him from nighthits if you do this, and you will win this easypeasy. It's useful to look at this with the hindsight of a couple of flips. He's forced to call Adam scum else he'll look even worse on Adam's flip. He goes after wbg hard, and calls him later 100% scum, with somehow total certainty, and we know how that turned out. Apart from that we have a scumread on jay for being... "fluffy". Alright. At the time I got the feeling Tunkeg might be town because of the martyring feel of the post, but frankly I'm not really sure why I thought that at all :/ On December 12 2012 18:03 Tunkeg wrote: I am not attacking you for putting to much effort in. In fact what I question is the effort you have put into this. I find it strange that you can have read enough of me to have a meta-read on me at this point. What's the town motive for this attack? It's just spreading suspicion around for... effort? Insidious. He calls multiple people dumb, but basically can't explain it when pushed on it. Town motivation... what? Scum motivation, demoralisation, ez pz. His obsession with nightkills and jailkeeping and stacking and all such things betrays a scummy mindset too. In Liquid City, ShiaoPi made some such post and I instantly admonished him in scumQT because scum love to talk about that shit, and indeed BH pulled Shiao up on it shortly thereafter. Typical make-myself-look-good by calling actions by telling them to do obvious things. Tunkeg is easily the scummiest guy in the thread right now and we should kill what's in front of us. Palmar I think is totally blinded by his ego and his will to be proved right about bugs, which is just a dumb way to play and it's clouding his judgement. ##Vote: Tunkeg | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 12:00 Hapahauli wrote: I"ve made my reads really really clear. VE's giving me more of a dumb town vibe than malicious scum. I want to lynch Bluelightz, but Tunkeg is rapidly climbing my list and is a clear #2. VE going after Clarity reminds me of me going after BH in Mario. Plus his case boils down to few posts only and speculation. On top of that, I don't think that VE could be that misguided. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2012 12:17 Djodref wrote: VE going after Clarity reminds me of me going after BH in Mario. Plus his case boils down to few posts only and speculation. On top of that, I don't think that VE could be that misguided. lol you don't know VE at all | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
##Vote Tunkeg | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Catching up | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I have only played with him replacing as scum. He was making sense in our scumQT in the Looney game. He also said that people were going to expect him to deliver. But my main point against him is that he is acting in a very similar way to what I did in the Mario game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2012 12:17 Djodref wrote: VE going after Clarity reminds me of me going after BH in Mario. Plus his case boils down to few posts only and speculation. On top of that, I don't think that VE could be that misguided. like seriously. Ask VE about that time in Liquid City when he was convinced kushm4sta was death-millered despite the fact there was no suggestion such a mechanic existed (it was classed as a Normal) and despite the fact everyone was telling him otherwise. He did it for fucking days, man. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
He's acting similar to HIMSELF in LC. Himself trumps you I'm afraid bro  | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Day 2 Vote Count Bluelightz (2): Clarity_nl (1): Tunkeg (3): Djodref, marvellosity, Hapahauli VisceraEyes (1): Tunkeg jaybrundage (1): Vivax Djodref (1): jaybrundage 7 votes needed to lynch. No one currently set to be lynched. Deadline in 21.5 hours at 01:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
We gotta fix that | ||
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marvellosity
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Hapahauli
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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