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Vivax
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2012 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote: [/big]JUST WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT?! ADAM CLAIMED VIGI DID YOU NOT FUCKING READ MARV?! WHY WOULD I DISCOUNT THE POSSIBLE EXISTENCE OF A MAFIA VIGI?! ADAM'S FUCKING CLAIM DIRECTLY...[bigDIRECTLY IMPLIES THE EXISTENCE OF A MAFIA VIGI IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW! Think about it, why would Adam claim Vigi? Why wouldn't he claim like...Jailkeeper? Why not claim VT? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE for Adam to claim Vigi AND THEN SAY HE CAN PROVE IT when he's a Goon unless the scum team HAS a Vigilante! Fuck marv, I expected this kind bullheadedness from Palmar, but et tu?!!? ET TU MARV?!?! who gives a flying shit if mafia have a vigilante? what part of someone i consider pretty townie anyway shooting at someone that Palmar and I were pushing at during the night is scummy? The townie explanation requires fewer assumptions, is more intuitive, and lines up with my read on Clarity anyway I have no idea what the fuck you're thinking but you need to get a grip. I can understand jay being an idiot but really you should know better. Although I find myself saying that a lot apparently. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2012 06:43 jaybrundage wrote: Hey guys Best Mislynch NA here. (Is it something to brag about? Nope. Do I give a fuck? Nope.) Hear me out. What if Clarity is scum. And Palmar is scum as well. Palmar followed up on his Adam read. Cause it made sense as he had posted the video and he would get town cred and try to get away with some mislynches afterwards if he could. Notice how he puts off making decisions today. And here after stating that bugs was scum a bajillion times cause hes so confident. When bugs is finally admitting to being scum. Palmar responds with stop trolling cause as scum he would know that bugs is town. Just something to think about guys. But regardless I think we should lynch Clarity today. Why some of you have such a great town read on him. For doing shit is surprising. Yes he has been logical. Yes he has pushed cases. But why cant good scum do that. You are acting like hes confirmed town for no reason. He was not part of the adam lynch. In fact he tried to derail it. *Sigh* Ok reading more up on it. Debears thought it was scummy that Clarity changed his vote to adam. When adam claimed Vig. However if Clarity was really a town vig he would have more reason to vote for adam. Because he knew that he was Vig already. However if Clarity is actually just a mafia Vig he could just shoot and claim it. Because he saw the threads direction. People can see WBG is an easy mislynch. But he is a very out spoken person. His lynch would of gave alot of great conversations. Im trying ot think outside of the box here. People give towncred so easily this game. Putting townie as virtually confirmed when its bullshit. Some stuff to think about. Will we lynch Palmar or Clarity today prolly not. As my case isn't as strong as I like. Yes is it a bit odd that I am giving a case and then saying its not strong sure ill be honest But these are my thoughts as convoluted, and twisted as they are. Regardless I want thoughts. Even if you think im crazy :3 none of this is even a case, it's a bunch of what ifs and wifom. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 14 2012 05:39 grush57 wrote: So much scummy play this game I'm not even considered a lynch. No one is paying attention to me :'(. :'( :'( Star...senses....faaaaaaaaadiiiiiiiiing NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COME BACK BABY I <3 YOU WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Wait? What is this? Logic? What? Proper intelligence? What? 100 IQ? WHAT ANYWAYS VE is playing super illogical, but he seems like an honest townie. I don't know about Tunkeg he could either be bad town or scum. Clarity is town. Djordef never mentioned scumbuddy Adam and DIRECTLY tried to counterlynch bandwagon. That play is so bad as scum that is the only thing saving him. I am up for lynching him. I'm also for lynching Bluelightz because his play is extremely bad/scummy. Plus the fact that out of all the vets, I find him by far the most scummy and mafia usually has atleast 1 vet. ... I agree with most, if not almost all of this (barring how strongly I feel about BL) ... my world is collapsing around me... Looking into Djo, Tunkeg, BL tonight before I sleep. Stay tuned! | ||
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marvellosity
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 The 3 names there are the 3 I think are likeliest to flip scum at this stage. | ||
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On December 12 2012 16:02 Tunkeg wrote: Boom! That was a great lynch! Now WBG is 100% scum. Look how hard he was pushing for me after Adam got in trouble. Look how he kept including Adam as his 2nd read, while not ever pointing out why he thought he was scummy. He did this because Adam was very obv scummy, and wbg not mentioning adam as scummy would look really bad for him. Also look at adams read post how hard he tried to distance himself from wbg, "agreeing" with my read on him. Also look at how wbg have presented his arguements (word twisting and misrepresenting facts) and his silly "80% Palmar is scum". WBG must be lynched day 2. Palmar got to be protected if we got a jailkeeper. Also if we got a cop look into someone trying to push my case, voting me and/or push/vote some other case after Adam got mentioned in Palmars video. | ||
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Vivax
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On December 13 2012 00:18 Tunkeg wrote: If we have a vig he should definately put a cap in WBG's ass. If we have a jailkeeper he should definately protect Palmar. But even if protected the chance is that scum got a vig and will double stack Palmar. WBG dies tonight or tomorrow, but Palmar who should we kill day 3? I just don't get the double stack thing. There's pretty stupid reasoning behind this. | ||
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Vivax
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Generally, I get the feeling he's pretty convinced about WBGs guilt rather than having constructed a case. Although I don't get why he's so fixated on Palmar to the point of assuming a double shot on him, I feel that these post reek pretty townish. He's also covering clarity, and I like his latest post of reads. I'll check that post out more thoroughly, but I agree with his targets: BL, VE, jay. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 06:24 Hapahauli wrote: @ Tunkeg Why do you find people going after Clarity a scumtell? It's certainly proves stupidity, but not scumminess. This post is not addressed to me but I think I have a good point to make here. It's not a scumtell if they don't use this stupidity to prevent us from reading them by avoiding contributing in another way than a stupid tunneling. For example, in Mario Mini, I've been tunneling BH for a very long time against simple logic (and speculating a lot) to avoid contributing anything else. I have no problem with jay and VE going after Clarity of they really believe if they are mafia but I want them to show interest in the other lynch candidates and open themselves to discussion. In the case of VE, it is clear for me that is fixation on Clarity is not natural. First of all, he has failed to provide an extensive case agaonst Clarity to convince us that Clarity is scum. He is just speculating that Clarity has to be the ScumVig, that's what is allowing him to not partocipate in any other discussion. There is mafia motivation for retarded tunnels. Now the question is to know if VE is being dumb on purpose or not. Given his approach of the subject (speculating side), he is doing it on purpose for me right now. That's why he is mafia in my eyes. @ VE If by any chance you are town, you have to keep it simple. The simplest explanation is that Clarity is a town Vig. You should get off your horses and try to find real mafia. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Palmar is confirmed town! Like Palmar is a town read, but confirmed town is a huuuuuge stretch. Palmar is basicly confirmed town for me at this point. If he was scum he could have easily pushed me with the rest of you. As he stopped reading before he got to me in his video. If he did in fact read his PM after that video, and had flipped scum I think he would be going with the flow, and going for me. If there is a JK in this game he should definately jail Palmar to protect him from harm. He is the town that scum will be gunning for, 100%. 100% sure that WBG is scum, no doubts! On December 12 2012 16:02 Tunkeg wrote: Boom! That was a great lynch! Now WBG is 100% scum. Look how hard he was pushing for me after Adam got in trouble. Look how he kept including Adam as his 2nd read, while not ever pointing out why he thought he was scummy. He did this because Adam was very obv scummy, and wbg not mentioning adam as scummy would look really bad for him. Also look at adams read post how hard he tried to distance himself from wbg, "agreeing" with my read on him. Also look at how wbg have presented his arguements (word twisting and misrepresenting facts) and his silly "80% Palmar is scum". WBG must be lynched day 2. Palmar got to be protected if we got a jailkeeper. Also if we got a cop look into someone trying to push my case, voting me and/or push/vote some other case after Adam got mentioned in Palmars video. Is sure that scum doesn't have a vigi... WHAT? On December 13 2012 18:36 Tunkeg wrote: So WBG was a jk this game. So my entire scum or stupid analysis on him was wrong. He turened out to be just stupid. Also anyone doubting clarity's claim is stupid. There is no reason at all for a scum clarity to claim such a hit. He had alot of towncred allready, a missed hit like this would only put him back on the radar. Scum don't have a vig, as they would have taken out Palmar with it, doublestacking. Or perhaps some other vet they view as dangerous. With no vig they went for the best safe option, taking out someone who by pushing Adam early was looking very townie, and who wasn't likely to be protected. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
I'm surprised about how long people have kept talking about clarity being scum. I just don't see it. His reactions to certain things in the game have been the same as mine + Show Spoiler [example] + On December 13 2012 09:03 Clarity_nl wrote: Debears you are a logical mess and I hate that you were right about Adam. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
I'm gonna do a re-read through of d1 then post thoughts on boson/djo/tunk unless I find something that convinces me not to. I don't have interest in any of the lynches outside of those people. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 02:27 Z-BosoN wrote: @Djodref You bring an interesting point regarding Tunkeg's "shying away" from Palmar. It's additional fluff for him not to actually scumhunt. I don't understand this passage, though, where you are calling it a scumslip: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=69#1361 Can you elaborate? @ Z-Boson On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote: Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happened to roll jk they need to be told what to do. For me, this totally could be a scumslip. Who he is talking about ? How does he know who is actually dumb (potential jks) and who is just playing dumb on purpose (potential mafia players) ? It could be easily explained if he had extra info on players alignment, if he is mafia for example. Honestly, I wouldn't have worried so much about this post if Tunkeg hadn't totally shied away from Palmar when he started to ask questions about it. I could totally see a town player post like this but his reaction feels forced. On December 13 2012 00:45 Tunkeg wrote: Nah, its the same people I have called dumb earlier. Maybe they haven't noticed or forgot. Don't want to insult them more, they might just not do as told to spite me. Like, seriously, what the fuck is that kind of line of thinking ? Why the JK would like to listen to Tunkeg at the first place ? Why would he be emotional ? And now I'm going to speculate a little. Let's assume that Palmar is town (likely) and that the mafia was planning to mislynch WBG today (also likely imo), they totally needed Palmar alive. But how would you explain that town Palmar is still alive ? He had to be jailed. At least, that's why I don't see any contradiction with a scum Tunkeg and him asking the JK to jail Palmar. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 14 2012 09:48 thrawn2112 wrote: eh, i might go for tunkeg as well I'm gonna do a re-read through of d1 then post thoughts on boson/djo/tunk unless I find something that convinces me not to. I don't have interest in any of the lynches outside of those people. @ thrawn Like, not even BL ? This guy doesn't even have a scumread at the moment... | ||
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