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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 01:00 GMT
#1541
On December 14 2012 09:55 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 09:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
eh, i might go for tunkeg as well

I'm gonna do a re-read through of d1 then post thoughts on boson/djo/tunk unless I find something that convinces me not to. I don't have interest in any of the lynches outside of those people.


@ thrawn

Like, not even BL ?
This guy doesn't even have a scumread at the moment...


idk I haven't done the meta research needed to figure out what to think of his lurking. but I still don't think he bussed adam. if i had to guess whats going on with him.... I think that for whatever reason he's not putting effort into the game and is just sheeping palmer
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 14 2012 01:49 GMT
#1542
On December 14 2012 08:02 Vivax wrote:
I know you're not answering on purpose, so I'll post the answer:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm I think BL would of been a good lynch, Im leaning town on thrawn. Adam honeslty im not sure on but I dont want a no lynch.

##Vote Adam


Also.

This is the first time you mention Adam.
Before, you didn't give a single fuck about him while basically everyone at least mentioned him.

Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 06:57 jaybrundage wrote:
I also want to see some more posts from our lurkers. Bluelightz and MunkE and Palmar.


You're scummy as fuck. I can't believe almost noone sees that.

Yea thx for telling me what im doing. I think its hilarious when people do that.

Regarding me not mentioning adam before i voted him. NO FUCKING KIDDING. I voted him because I didn't want a no lynch to occur. I didn't pull a bullshit case out my ass, because I didn't have one. I didn't know what his alignment was and I stated as much. ROFL if this is your case on me its shit.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#1543
On December 14 2012 10:49 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 08:02 Vivax wrote:
I know you're not answering on purpose, so I'll post the answer:

On December 12 2012 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm I think BL would of been a good lynch, Im leaning town on thrawn. Adam honeslty im not sure on but I dont want a no lynch.

##Vote Adam


Also.

This is the first time you mention Adam.
Before, you didn't give a single fuck about him while basically everyone at least mentioned him.

On December 11 2012 06:57 jaybrundage wrote:
I also want to see some more posts from our lurkers. Bluelightz and MunkE and Palmar.


You're scummy as fuck. I can't believe almost noone sees that.

Yea thx for telling me what im doing. I think its hilarious when people do that.

Regarding me not mentioning adam before i voted him. NO FUCKING KIDDING. I voted him because I didn't want a no lynch to occur. I didn't pull a bullshit case out my ass, because I didn't have one. I didn't know what his alignment was and I stated as much. ROFL if this is your case on me its shit.


@ Jay

Why can you even admit that it makes you look bad ?
How can we tell the difference between a bus and this ?

You cannot blame Vivax for voicing suspicions towards you for this point. I know has tried to derailed Adam's lynch and I know it makes me look bad. I don't find your reaction very much town. For example, your case against me was valid and I've tried to address it to show you that my actions were town motivated (because I'm town ).
I don't tink Vivax brought up shit with this point and I find you over reacting.

But I still think VE, BL and Tunkeg all look worse than you at the moment

Why
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 02:04 GMT
#1544
+ Show Spoiler [Tunkeg scumslip?[/b] +
On December 14 2012 09:53 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 02:27 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Djodref
You bring an interesting point regarding Tunkeg's "shying away" from Palmar. It's additional fluff for him not to actually scumhunt.

I don't understand this passage, though, where you are calling it a scumslip:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=69#1361
Calling people dumb like this (reference to potential jailkeepers) is a scumslip. You call town players dumb and bad, mafia players are just mafia players


Can you elaborate?


@ Z-Boson

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it?


Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happened to roll jk they need to be told what to do.


For me, this totally could be a scumslip. Who he is talking about ?
How does he know who is actually dumb (potential jks) and who is just playing dumb on purpose (potential mafia players) ?
It could be easily explained if he had extra info on players alignment, if he is mafia for example.

Honestly, I wouldn't have worried so much about this post if Tunkeg hadn't totally shied away from Palmar when he started to ask questions about it. I could totally see a town player post like this but his reaction feels forced.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 00:45 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 13 2012 00:40 Palmar wrote:
On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it?


Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happend to roll jk they need to be told what to do.


Please list the people dumb enough.


Nah, its the same people I have called dumb earlier. Maybe they haven't noticed or forgot. Don't want to insult them more, they might just not do as told to spite me.


Like, seriously, what the fuck is that kind of line of thinking ?
Why the JK would like to listen to Tunkeg at the first place ? Why would he be emotional ?

And now I'm going to speculate a little. Let's assume that Palmar is town (likely) and that the mafia was planning to mislynch WBG today (also likely imo), they totally needed Palmar alive. But how would you explain that town Palmar is still alive ? He had to be jailed.

At least, that's why I don't see any contradiction with a scum Tunkeg and him asking the JK to jail Palmar.


@ Tunkeg

I really would like you to tell me who are the "seriously dumb people" in this game.
Could you precise if they are dumb town or dumb scum ?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 14 2012 02:04 GMT
#1545
On December 14 2012 10:59 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:49 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 14 2012 08:02 Vivax wrote:
I know you're not answering on purpose, so I'll post the answer:

On December 12 2012 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm I think BL would of been a good lynch, Im leaning town on thrawn. Adam honeslty im not sure on but I dont want a no lynch.

##Vote Adam


Also.

This is the first time you mention Adam.
Before, you didn't give a single fuck about him while basically everyone at least mentioned him.

On December 11 2012 06:57 jaybrundage wrote:
I also want to see some more posts from our lurkers. Bluelightz and MunkE and Palmar.


You're scummy as fuck. I can't believe almost noone sees that.

Yea thx for telling me what im doing. I think its hilarious when people do that.

Regarding me not mentioning adam before i voted him. NO FUCKING KIDDING. I voted him because I didn't want a no lynch to occur. I didn't pull a bullshit case out my ass, because I didn't have one. I didn't know what his alignment was and I stated as much. ROFL if this is your case on me its shit.


@ Jay

Why can you even admit that it makes you look bad ?
How can we tell the difference between a bus and this ?

You cannot blame Vivax for voicing suspicions towards you for this point. I know has tried to derailed Adam's lynch and I know it makes me look bad. I don't find your reaction very much town. For example, your case against me was valid and I've tried to address it to show you that my actions were town motivated (because I'm town ).
I don't tink Vivax brought up shit with this point and I find you over reacting.

But I still think VE, BL and Tunkeg all look worse than you at the moment

Why

Ironic then how Tunkeg said how the very same response made me look more townie and he changed his view of me from scummy to neutral. Opinions, Opinions are different you are. I dont think i over reacted at all I think people over react to caps lock. Simply put he doesn't have a case against me.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 02:06 GMT
#1546
On December 14 2012 11:04 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:59 Djodref wrote:
On December 14 2012 10:49 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 14 2012 08:02 Vivax wrote:
I know you're not answering on purpose, so I'll post the answer:

On December 12 2012 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm I think BL would of been a good lynch, Im leaning town on thrawn. Adam honeslty im not sure on but I dont want a no lynch.

##Vote Adam


Also.

This is the first time you mention Adam.
Before, you didn't give a single fuck about him while basically everyone at least mentioned him.

On December 11 2012 06:57 jaybrundage wrote:
I also want to see some more posts from our lurkers. Bluelightz and MunkE and Palmar.


You're scummy as fuck. I can't believe almost noone sees that.

Yea thx for telling me what im doing. I think its hilarious when people do that.

Regarding me not mentioning adam before i voted him. NO FUCKING KIDDING. I voted him because I didn't want a no lynch to occur. I didn't pull a bullshit case out my ass, because I didn't have one. I didn't know what his alignment was and I stated as much. ROFL if this is your case on me its shit.


@ Jay

Why can you even admit that it makes you look bad ?
How can we tell the difference between a bus and this ?

You cannot blame Vivax for voicing suspicions towards you for this point. I know has tried to derailed Adam's lynch and I know it makes me look bad. I don't find your reaction very much town. For example, your case against me was valid and I've tried to address it to show you that my actions were town motivated (because I'm town ).
I don't tink Vivax brought up shit with this point and I find you over reacting.

But I still think VE, BL and Tunkeg all look worse than you at the moment

Why

Ironic then how Tunkeg said how the very same response made me look more townie and he changed his view of me from scummy to neutral. Opinions, Opinions are different you are. I dont think i over reacted at all I think people over react to caps lock. Simply put he doesn't have a case against me.


Okay I guess. I didn't remember that Vivax had his vote on you...

By the way, you don't have a case against Clarity neither.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 02:08 GMT
#1547
EBWOP: Did it also occur to you that Tunkeg could know your alignment ?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 14 2012 02:17 GMT
#1548
Yea as well as anyone of you. So?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 14 2012 02:19 GMT
#1549
Annnnyway, Now that I expressed my random thoughts on Clarity and Palmar.

Anyone still down for a Djodref lynch?

##Unvote
##Vote Djodref
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 14 2012 02:21 GMT
#1550
On December 14 2012 11:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Annnnyway, Now that I expressed my random thoughts on Clarity and Palmar.

Anyone still down for a Djodref lynch?

##Unvote
##Vote Djodref


definitely but i'm undecided between him and boson
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 02:21 GMT
#1551
So then.

About Bluelightz. I looked at his filter and... kinda found what I thought I'd find in his filter, which is a whole lot of nothing. I can't even give any particular reasons he might be town. The strongest reason would be his vote on Adam, but I can't feel that strongly about it. At the time Bluelightz voted, jay had 3 votes, Tunkeg had 4, and Adam had 3. It's possible either way that he put his vote on Adam and hoped he'd pull it together and not get lynched later. Even so, he voted scum and that should be at least a bit of a townie point in his books.

There's a couple of things I don't like. Firstly his attitude on bugs - he was down to kill him... if that was the consensus. There was no reason of his own until pressed, and the reason given then was the percentage thing, which was really weak. That feels like going along with it and not bothering to give a reason because potentially as scum he didn't have a reason to give, knowing bugs was town. Again though, I could see town BL doing this :/

The thing I dislike most, which I probably shouldn't but I hate it, is:

On December 13 2012 20:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 20:10 Bluelightz wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:48 Bluelightz wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
One more thing about this post, actually:
On December 13 2012 18:30 Bluelightz wrote:
Lemme point out stuff in the game:

Clarity has been pushing me by asking people for their opinion on his supposedly good case. Then, he only gives additional information when asked (Look at Bluelightz meta). Then events on the night correspond with the best chances for me getting lynched, debears the person that opposed my lynch the most is supposedly shot. Lastly, has he actually responded to my response? does he give a fuck about me than just "Oh he's scum, ignore everything. My case has to be right"


Do you believe I'm scum? Because if you think I'm scum this should not be what you think I'm thinking.


Why would you ask that good sir?


Do you think I'm scum?


No


So why are you discrediting me as a player, rather than my case on you. Why does my "effort" matter to you. Why have you acted this way to me ever since I made my case on you, yet you think I'm town.

Better yet, why don't you have a scumread on anyone?


Because I haven't had the time? I think your town but how you push me is troubling. Discrediting your case is kinda a no-no since I responded and you haven't responded back.


BL hasn't played a game in ages, seemed pleased to be back, but now he just doesn't have the time to even get a scumread? arghkfgjkdlfjlskjfdlkfsdkljfkldjfkj. Bleh, whatever. He's scummy but he's also BL and if I had to go for an alignment, uh... I'd guess town maybe? It just seems like he's not pushing an agenda... I still have not-so-fond memories of NMM2 where Bluelightz as scum made a good-looking case on some lynchbait during Day 1 when (scum) prplhz was receiving heavy heat for both his play and his blueclaim. There was an agenda there, he was deflecting suspicion; here he voted for the scum.




Now there's Djodref. There are more things I find scummy in his filter than BL, but there's also some things I find townier too.

His vote on thrawn
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 02:22 GMT
#1552
so I'm writing my post and instead of previewing i pressed post.

more to come
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 02:23 GMT
#1553
Maybe Tunkeg ia defending you to serve his agenda. That's what I wanted you to realize.
Vivax argument is not bad. Saying his opinion dffers from Tu.keg is not a good argument to address it properly.

Anyway, thats not important now. Your vote is what is important !

Where is your case against Clarity ?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 02:23 GMT
#1554
On December 14 2012 11:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 11:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Annnnyway, Now that I expressed my random thoughts on Clarity and Palmar.

Anyone still down for a Djodref lynch?

##Unvote
##Vote Djodref


definitely but i'm undecided between him and boson


quick interlude. are you actually going to make any sort of case on either of them? you just keep mentioning them but not saying anything else, it's getting kinda boring.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 14 2012 02:30 GMT
#1555
@ Marv

Now there's Djodref. There are more things I find scummy in his filter than BL, but there's also some things I find townier too.


I know you haven't finished your stuff on Djo, but this comment I think is pretty telling of his play. Players like this often are just attention whoring townies rather than scum.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 02:30 GMT
#1556
@ jay

Can you make me a list with your main points against me ?

@ thrawn

Could you do the same ?
What would be your tentative scteam ?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 14 2012 02:34 GMT
#1557
On December 14 2012 11:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 11:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Annnnyway, Now that I expressed my random thoughts on Clarity and Palmar.

Anyone still down for a Djodref lynch?

##Unvote
##Vote Djodref


definitely but i'm undecided between him and boson


Mind elaborating on the Boson read a bit?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 14 2012 02:34 GMT
#1558
Also I want your comments on my Tunkegs case !!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#1559
On December 14 2012 11:30 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv

Show nested quote +
Now there's Djodref. There are more things I find scummy in his filter than BL, but there's also some things I find townier too.


I know you haven't finished your stuff on Djo, but this comment I think is pretty telling of his play. Players like this often are just attention whoring townies rather than scum.


I think you're just making that heuristic up ;p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 14 2012 02:38 GMT
#1560
On December 14 2012 11:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 11:30 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Marv

Now there's Djodref. There are more things I find scummy in his filter than BL, but there's also some things I find townier too.


I know you haven't finished your stuff on Djo, but this comment I think is pretty telling of his play. Players like this often are just attention whoring townies rather than scum.


I think you're just making that heuristic up ;p


Well that's more my general observation in the last few games I've played. The players who are giving me conflicting reads are often town. The ones who give me no reason to think they're town are the ones that are scum. BL and Tunkeg are falling into the latter category for me. Djo the former.
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