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Djo's someone whom he "leaning scum" in day one. I've already went over how his lack of response to my case on a "suspect" he had was bothersome, but I mean, his play in day two is completely nonsensical. He talks down to djo and actually criticizes palmar for wanting to lynch Djo, a supposed scum read. This makes no sense from a town perspective. See these: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=82#1634 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=82#1637 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=83#1644 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=84#1663 | ||
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dis game | ||
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I think controltab + f5 is the real deal :D | ||
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And yet I still snipe you GG | ||
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What do you make of vivax? I'm getting scummy vibes again from him. his town read on palmar is kinda weird given his filter | ||
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On December 15 2012 08:25 Hapahauli wrote: Pretty convinced Vivax is town. His reaction to Bugs trolling us at the end of N1 seemed really really genuine. Can you link? | ||
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I'll check it later when I get back | ||
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Here's my take at the game at the moment. First of all, I'd only consider Clarity and thrawn to be almost-confirmed town for now. I see no reason for scum to hard bus day one or two. On day two, scum were behind due to Adam's lynch and really needed a mislynch. Day one it's pretty straightforward. If we assume this, some associations can be made. For example: vivax and jay are not the same scum team vivax and Bluelightz are not in the same scum team. Palmar and Djo are not in the same scum team. etc. Of course, these associations are only useful when scum has flipped (I'm trying out this kind of thinking this game and keeping track on some of them). But they help me in thinning out the possible scum list. Marv, for example (well, pretty much the only example), is a player certainly capable of bussing adam in the way he did as scum, but I don't think this is the way , given how he's playing the game. Palmar, another capable player, is someone I'm very null on in this stage of the game. His play so far seems to be in alignment with how he spoke pre-game (adam is prob scum, djo is prob scum, etc.) This is something he'd have to do as scum, and something he'd likely do as townie, so it could go either way. Unless both these players are scum, I feel it is likely one will die tonight, so I'm not gonna due too much research into them. If one of them is scum, I would lean scum on Palmar. After some rereading some, I feel marv's vote on Adam doesn't look like a bus. Anyways, I'll wait after the night to actually make any decisions regarding them, to me right now they are both town. Originally I had a semi-town read on BL, but this recent post: On December 15 2012 09:12 Bluelightz wrote: Lazy about scum hunting - People ignoring me and saying every post I make scum or is somehow scummy... (I post something other guy says "Thats why you should vote BL") Has some fair amount of qq that seems to be a subtle attempt of justifying his lack of scum reading. I'll have to read more on him. Djo is certainly a capable player to seem as invest as he is. But I don't like some of his play this game, especially the lying Palmar mentioned. I also don't like how he has been buddying me, despite having posts like these on his filter, that spread some light suspicion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=72#1437 @ Z-Bo I'm gonna be seriously concerned about you if you don't find a mafia player today. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=49#963 The hypothetical scenario is the scenario where Z-Bo is chasing only me for the next days. In this hypothetical scenario, I would need to revise my current town read on him. (there was one more that I remember marv even noted, but I feel lazy to go back and look for it) He also has some strange behavior towards Vivax. Vivax soft defends Djo early in day one. Djo then makes a case on vivax (after I note vivax's suspicious behavior towards Adam): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=50#1000 But then quickly changes his mind due to his interaction with bugs: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=69#1377 On Vivax, I'll go ahead and say that I don't really agree with this town read, in the linked post. Saying how he thought bugs was town is fairly null (or I'm not understanding the townread correctly). Hapa's earlier townread on Adam making a case on vivax is also something I disagree upon. It's actually quite reasonable to me. The importnat thing he's missing is that marv had agreed with the case on Adam at that point. Palmar's video was also up at the time, so it's a fair chance that Adam was getting lynched. He also just made a case on Vivax and scrammed, didn't push Vivax at all, and didn't even vote for vivax, which leads me to believe that Adam did NOT intend for vivax to be lynched. As a matter of fact, note that he not only doesn't push vivax, but he declares him "obvious town" in his own martyr post, as "obvious town": http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=42#825 Obvious town to me: Palmar, Clarity, dabears, Marv, Thrawn and Vivax. So that, in my opinion, turns Hapa's association on Vivax totally invalid, and maybe arguably even the opposite, given to how weird his stance on Palmar was lately. I also have to read more carefully on him. tl;dr
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On this game so far, he has near the same amount of posts as the finished rock band mafia game. Except that save the first post, they are mostly one liners. Here are some very interesting posts from said game, which are in contrast to his play here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=25#484 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=9#179 All this is refuted by him saying "he's lazy". Hmm. | ||
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I think either scum has a vig or town has a vig. Since only one vig shot was used, and vig shots are usually used in day one, then only one faction has vig. I'd lean town vig, because Clarity seems to be playing to his townie meta. The only weird part about this is that Adam's claim to be able to "prove" he's a vig suggests that he could actually have evidence to back it up. That or he was just simply lying through his teeth to save himself for another day. | ||
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seems both factions had vigs ;D Gg palmar and clarity | ||
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It's interesting you mention Hapa. I also noted his change of mind on VE, and Hapa's usually not one to sheep like that. I look forward to his defense. @Djo I like how you are actually trying. One question though, why post a BL case right after making a case on your main suspect? | ||
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On December 17 2012 11:19 jaybrundage wrote: Just to be clear i think it would b a mistake to lynch anyone but you;. Palmar wanted you dead for good reason. What? Didn't palmar specifically say he wants VE dead as well? | ||
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I don't like how he disappeared and hasn't really responded to anything. He doesn't seem interested in the game AT ALL. If you guys recall, we hadn't interacted at all up until he noted my "scumslip". He then made his "case" on me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=81#1607 And parked his vote on me. This came at a time when I had some pressure on me. I agree a lot with Djo's point on how he is really just going with the flow. Note how his play is in complete contrast with his game on Liquid City. When he found me to be scum, he spent quite some time interacting with me, prodding around asking other people (BC) what they thought of me, etc. He then gave some attention elsewhere when I wasnt getting any traction. Take a look at the interaction that begins in the last 4-5 posts of this page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&user=117978¤tpage=8 And some in the next page as well. This game it's complete and utter crap. He gives a crap reason (that basically surmounts to: I'm prodding people everywhere) and doesnt push me, doesnt do shit. He parks his vote on me and keeps it there, saying later just how he'd be down to lynch me. Doesn't ask other people what they think of me, doesn't try to push his "scum read". There's also that whole Palmar wants him dead thing. I'm curious to see what his next move is. | ||
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