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Honestly I doubt I can talk my way out of a mislynch, but I have only myself to blame for my lazy/shitty play. Oh well. Hopefully I can find the last two scum for pride-sake. | ||
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Anyway, I'm off to bed, and I'll hopefully see y'all a couple of hours before the deadline. A last bit in my defense, I'd like to refer you to a quote from syllogism on suspicion and LYLO situations: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398¤tpage=60#1195 On July 30 2012 08:16 syllogism wrote: For future reference if someone is getting lynched in a lylo with no resistance at all, you probably aren't on the right track This is from Newbie XXI, where I (as mafia) led a lynch on a townie at LYLO with zero resistance from the townsfolk. This game is shaping up to be the exact same way. I've had suspicion piled on me without any resistance whatsoever for the last two cycles. If you all think that there was no mafia intervention in this, the game is sadly lost. | ||
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Marv is scum. On December 22 2012 20:49 marvellosity wrote: I'll be back this evening to play properly (grmbl christmas shopping). Bluelightz's modkill is amazing for us. Given I'm alive at LYLO (??) I'll give my best interpretation for why. I am another Veteran. I didn't crumb because I thought it would be obvious when I got shot. I am assuming however that the mafia must have a Rolecop and investigated me at some stage - so double stacking me at any point in the last few days would mean that mafia would have needed an extra mislynch to win the game. Bluelightz's flip inherently makes me more suspicious of Z-Boson and Djodref. grush... I still think is town. Certainly it seems at least one of the scummers has been playing very well despite the collapse of his team otherwise. Marv claimed veteran. He's the 4th blue claim. The chances that there are 5 blues in this setup balance wise are... not very high. Yet marv's post regarding VE: On December 18 2012 09:23 marvellosity wrote: Z-Bo has gone according to his last post, i assume he's referring to what i pasted here. i fucking hate this. none of his play is townie, but i hate lynching uncounterclaimed DTs. djfnsdk I think we have to lynch him and hope he doesn't flip DT or we feel very stupid If marv is the veteran, he shouldn't show the slightest bit of doubt lynching VE here. VE would be the 5th blue claim in a 16 man game. ##Vote Marvellosity | ||
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On December 23 2012 20:53 marvellosity wrote: You do realise bugs' game had 5 or 6 blues in a 13 man game with 3 scum, right? We could have a gf/vigi/goon/rolecop setup, or whatever. I'm pretty sure I made a post earlier where I said anything between about 2-6 blues could be balanced depending on scum roles. I had no real reason to disclose my role earlier in the day, I wasn't under any particular amount of suspicion and I didn't need to make a play to 'save myself'. The simple fact is that it's lylo and I went for full disclosure. Djodref: what do you expect out of a veteran mentality? I'm motherfucking marvellosity. I post a shit-tonne, I help lynch scum on day 1, what more do I have to do to get shot? Historically I rarely crumb my roles; I did so in Rock Band because I felt insecure in my position near the start, but in games like LI or Dwarf Fortress I didn't breadcrumb my tracker role, I've never crumbed my vigi roles (again, because it would be obvious, like it should have been with my vet role). Ok maybe this was less of a "EUREKA" moment than I had thought. However, Hapa policy-lynch rule #2 (lynch marv at lylo) is starting to make much more sense to me right now. Outside of sheeping Palmar/debears on the Adam vote early on Day 1, you've been largely pushing mafia objectives. D2) Tunkeg lynch D3) Push three non-VE targets (Jay, myself, and Djo... seems like a townie crowd) D4) Jay lynch And now I see you convinced of my guilt. I've seen no frustration, or even hesitation about you lynching me today, despite it being a non-contested bandwagon at lylo. Like honestly - not a single person in this game has defended me for the last ~120 hours. And you think that I'm scum? Doubt it. As a last point, I saw a lot of frustration out of you when you pushed two mislynches in GSL II Mafia. I don't get any sense of frustration, urgency, or even emotion from you right now when the game is on the line. I'm pretty confident that you're flipping red. | ||
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I'd consider joining me on marv. He should not be alive right now. You can rationalize his behavior however you want, but actions speak louder than words. When one of the game's best town players is alive at LYLO with this rapport... However, Hapa policy-lynch rule #2 (lynch marv at lylo) is starting to make much more sense to me right now. Outside of sheeping Palmar/debears on the Adam vote early on Day 1, you've been largely pushing mafia objectives. D2) Tunkeg lynch D3) Push three non-VE targets (Jay, myself, and Djo... seems like a townie crowd) D4) Jay lynch ... alarm bells should be going off. Marv is scum. As for a Hapa + Z-Bo scumteam, think about it this way. The concensus regarding my lynch is that my "scummate" bussed me. If Z-Boson were my scumbuddy, the strategy we'd be using is insane. Our "plan" would be: 1) Bus Hapa for 5-6 days to build town credit 2) Light all that town-cred on fire, instead risking a gamble to win the game today by lynching one of the best town players on TL mafia. Yes that's sane. Keep thinking what you're thinking and town's going to lose. | ||
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On December 24 2012 01:32 grush57 wrote: Finished reading through thread. THE SCUM ARE TAKING OVER. MARV IS TOWN EL STUPIDOS. SO AM I. LYNCH HAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AND ZBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO He's letting his attitude slip. Desperate scum right here. | ||
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Djo, where you at? We need to talk about the lynch some. | ||
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As for a Hapa + Z-Bo scumteam, think about it this way. The concensus regarding my lynch is that my "scummate" bussed me. If Z-Boson were my scumbuddy, the strategy we'd be using is insane. Our "plan" would be: 1) Bus Hapa for 5-6 days to build town credit 2) Light all that town-cred on fire, instead risking a gamble to win the game today by lynching one of the best town players on TL mafia. Yes that's sane. Keep thinking what you're thinking and town's going to lose. Agree, disagree? | ||
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Actions speak louder than words. Marv has been pushing mafia objectives all game, other than an early bus of Adam (which btw, is really easy to do, since he'd know Adam was scum). More importantly, marv has not pushed a correct lynch once all game. Think about that. Marv hasn't pushed a correct lynch all game. Town marv lynches scum. Scum marv lynches townies. Town marv has never been alive at lylo in any recent games. Pretty easy lynch IMO. | ||
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On December 24 2012 06:51 Djodref wrote: Mm. I disagree. Thrawn and Vivax would have gone after Z-Bo, and yeah, both of them are dead. Thrawn was convinced that one scum had to be among the people not voting Adam D1. This led him to write his Z-Bo case before, and he mentioned it again before being killed. Vivax has been tunneled but Z-Bo a lot this game, so I guess that he could have found him suspicious at some point. But that's the thing - your strategy is not coherent. We eliminated all the opposition to Z-Bo... then decided to go all out today? If that was our NK plan, Z-Bo would bus me today and he would be our endgame player. I still don't understand why you think a town marv is alive at lylo. | ||
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On December 24 2012 06:57 Djodref wrote: I don't know. It could be easy not to kill him to bring this argument. It's like reverse framing. Today is all or nothing imo, so why not bring marv along. Shit, I hate my position right now. Do you know what the first post in my Mario Mini Mafia QT was? http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/8tUWEsHeiEQ "Default rule - Marv dies N1. That is all." Killing marv is my #1 goal in all my scumgames. He's the player that's most familiar with my scum meta. That's also shows how much respect I have for his townplay - he will eat a scumteam alive if left alive for a long time. | ||
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On December 24 2012 07:01 Djodref wrote: Marv pushed Tunkeg lynch, but I did the same at that time. So it doesn't make him scum. Marv thought that the scumteam was Hapa/jay/Djo. I understand him being wrong about jay and me, because we are scummy town players. I don't know, I really like his reaction to WBG's bluff, when you did not even write a post. Tell me why a scum marv would have had a town read on BL ? How does it serve him ? He has a town-read on BL, because he doesn't need to have a scumread on him. He needed two lynches, jay and myself, to win the game. Everyone was agreeing, which made BL completely useless. Plus he could always 180 on that BL town read when I flipped green. Lastly, scum marv ALWAYS pushes mislynches. ALWAYS. Whether you agree with him is not the issue (hell I agreed with him at the time). The issue is whether or not he gets it right. He hasn't. | ||
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Deathnote Mini Mafia - Scum Normal Mini Mafia III - Scum And that's just recent memory. | ||
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