EPTseems both factions had vigs ;D
Gg palmar and clarity
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
seems both factions had vigs ;D Gg palmar and clarity | ||
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Vivax
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Z-BosoN
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Bluelightz
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Djodref
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Clarity was obviously a blue Vig by the way. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
So by Palmar's and marv's reads I'm going to put Bluelightz off the lynch list. GET DJORDEF. Z-Boson and VE other scum? if theres 4?? | ||
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grush57
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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jaybrundage
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I've been inactive lately because it's the week-end and Christmas is coming soon. It appears that I'm a good lynch candidate for today so I'll try to fight my mislynch the best I can. I also think I have a good grasp at who are the remaining mafia players by elimination. I'm not going to focus too much on my defense today but I would like you to try to be as much as objective as you can when you read my posts. Don't get confirmation bias get into you because I'm going to flip town at the end of the day and you are still going to have to find the remaining mafia players. I require everyone to make a clear and concise post giving the own reasons they have to vote me. If you are town, you might look bad after my mislynch if you sheep me mindlessly. If you are mafia, we are going to show that you are full of crap. For example, let's look at jaybrundage latest vote on me. He gave no reasoning of his own for this vote. I've asked him several times to make a list of the main points he has against me (after he was supposed to check my filter again) but he has failed to provide it so far. It's also worth noticing that he never delivered his Clarity case when he was voting Clarity. Jaybrundage vote right now is unacceptable and I encourage you to pressure him (because I'm not in a good position to pressure anyone today) to give his own reasons. I'm going to give you my town reads in my next post. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I have already explained my town reads on Marv and Vivax in this post + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2012 17:56 Djodref wrote: Disclaimer: Important Read Post WBG beautiful bluff So, there is something important that some of you may have missed. Just before being shot, WBG did this: and then At this point, only the mafia team could have known that he was lying about his alignment. When I read this, I thought, "ok, bugs was really scum, Palmar imb4, gg mafia, time to concede noaw". So I think we can get very valuable information from the reactions of the people present in the thread to WBG's last move. Town players were going to react like me, I mean that they are going to fully believe Bugs. Mafia players were going to feel awkward in front of this fakeclaim, and maybe avoiding participating at this point. Marv For example, marv is certainly town, due to this post, which I cannot see as anything but genuine. This is the reaction to expect from town marv. @ VE What do you make of this one ? Vivax Vivax reactions look also quite townie. I think I was wrong about him. He looks to have a carefree town style. Please check all page 65 to see Vivax's reaction as he gets uber-sniped and the his WBG's eulogy. Palmar? I'm not so sure what to think about Palmar's reactions. I like this one Because he is anwering to a post that even wasn't addressed to him at the first place. But this one a just pure back tracking. But, still, I don't see scum Palmar posting this, if he knew that WBG were going to flip town. But still, posting this after flooding us with "Bugs is scum" posts is quite bad. I don't know what to think of this post. Another thing speaking for a town Palmar is this post I don't think that scum Palmar would have forgot who was NKed. So, all in all, still leaning town on Palmar but I don't think he took this game very seriously until now... @ Palmar Could you start to play this game more seriously ? Like reading the thread for real and stuff ? By the way, I'm town, so I recommend you to reassess your reads because you are going to look bad if you keep lynching townies. Clarity All in all, I have a strong town read on Clarity. I don't see any reason to doubt his claim because it would have been stupid for the mafia to kill a potential mislynch. His reactions before and after the flip look really genuine as well. Anyway, I already had a town read on Clarity before all this so, yeah, Clarity is Vig. @ jay Don't be stupid, don't waste your time and ours, don't write this Clarity's case and come back to your senses. Thoughts anyone ? Do you think it is far-fetched ? I think it's quite reasonable... @ Hapahauli Why didn't you comment on WBG's confession just before the flip ? I believe that Vivax is town. His whole interaction with Clarity looks genuine, and the general feeling I got from his posts is that he is carefree. He doesn't really care when people are suspicious of him, which shows a townie mindset. He might be wrong sometimes and also stupid, but he that's because he is spammy and all over the place. Even if he has some suspicious posts wrt Adam, his general posting style indicates that he is town. Plus you have this post + Show Spoiler [blackborad] + On December 11 2012 03:07 Vivax wrote: Here, I have some explications on a notepad advertising rectal gel. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/k9gNk.png) That reminds me that you've pressured thrawn a little at 10:18, marv, but quickly lost interest. So what's your opinion on him? Marv is town because he convinced Palmar that his lynch was better than Palmar's lynch. As I'm town, I don't see why marv would have pushed Tunkeg lynch over mine if he was mafia. He has shown that he was really trying to figure me out and him doubting that I was the best lynch yesterday shows that he really cares about this game and who is getting lynched. Moreover, his reaction to WBG bluff looks really genuine, as well as his interactions with Palmar. I have also a strong town read on thrawn. Him derping at the beginning at the beginning of the game, the general tone of his posts, his activity level, his case against Z-Bo, all this is indicating a town thrawn. Moreover, thrawn has almost no experience as a mafia player, and he was pretty obvious, detached and lurky, in the Mario Mini Mafia game. I believe that Z-Boson is town, but this read is less strong than the other ones. His defense against thrawn's case just sounds right. He has shown some good scumhunting and good cases. I would like him to invest himself more in this game because he is a good town player who usually find the mafia. I believe that Hapa is town. I know you don't like Munk-E behavior but I don't think that a mafia player would blatantly go after a town WBG like that, if he knew WBG reputation. Moreover, Hapa knows my meta pretty well and he has correctly identified me as town and defended me, when there is no mafia benefit to do that, given that I'm a potential mislynch here. I'm really curious to see what he is going to do today though  So, by elimination, I have the remaining scum in jay, VE, Bluelightz and grush. No wonder that Clarity has been NKed ^^ I'm going to present extensive cases against all of them today. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Z-Bo, what do you think about Vivax reaction to WBG's bluff ? I would like to know if anyone has a town read on jay ! | ||
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thrawn2112
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Vivax
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Your last big list post, similar to this, contained 100 % townreads and 0 scumhunting. This post is the same, you try to scumhunt by elimination. Also, I'd like to know some reasons why you think marv is town. | ||
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Vivax
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
"Did you seriously not read that millers are not self aware ?" What on earth is the possible town purpose behind this question? I didn't understand it at the time and I still don't. His next statemen about me (same post) was this: "My first reaction to thrawn post was "yeah, obvious scum" then I thought that he might not have been serious at all. A one liner for a miller claim doesn't look real, regardless of his alignment. The way he answered "nvm, then" shows that he is carefree about it." That looks like a town read... doesn't say town exactly but it directly goes back on the original premise that djo gave for me being scum. Lets look into all possible worlds where djo is town, thinks thrawn is town, and asks if thrawn read the op before making the claim: | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 16 2012 21:09 Vivax wrote: You know, your arguments about marv are that he pushed Tunkegs lynch over yours, and that he replied to WBGs bluff. I think putting yourself as obvious town isn't correct, you should assume that noone knows you're town when you argue in this situation. Also, you like spewing around "I'm town" a lot, it's getting inflationated. I know I'm town and we know for sure that Tunkeg was town. Why would a scum marv pushing a town lynch over another one ? I didn't have time to make the cases this afternoon. I'm getting to it now... And, yeah, I'm town, and you're wrong about me. I'll keep saying it until the end because it's just the thruth. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
"hmm.... thrawn claimed miller. is he town? did he not read the op? i'll ask him if he read the op." The first question can't accomplish anything, the second question is.... idk, I don't see the point. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 16 2012 21:15 thrawn2112 wrote: djo's first question to me was: What on earth is the possible town purpose behind this question? I didn't understand it at the time and I still don't. His next statemen about me (same post) was this: That looks like a town read... doesn't say town exactly but it directly goes back on the original premise that djo gave for me being scum. Lets look into all possible worlds where djo is town, thinks thrawn is town, and asks if thrawn read the op before making the claim: You are reading to much into this. I wanted to know if you knew that everybody was going to take this as a blatant fakeclaim or not. | ||
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