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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 02 2012 00:30 GMT
#981
On December 02 2012 09:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
whatever, this is fruitless and marv might just be that bad.

So, let's kill BH then. Hopefully someone shoots him tonight.

Seriously, please go into a little more detail about why you want BH to get deaded.
Fe fi fo fum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
December 02 2012 00:35 GMT
#982
I'd appreciate this as well
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 00:40 GMT
#983
On December 02 2012 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
whatever, this is fruitless and marv might just be that bad.

So, let's kill BH then. Hopefully someone shoots him tonight.

Seriously, please go into a little more detail about why you want BH to get deaded.


I've mentioned this before, but:

Go back and look at how BH switches his votes and how he reasons them. Look at how he attacks DP.

Firstly, one could argue that voteswitching doesn't really tell us anything about how BH is scum or not. Sure, one could argue that, but then consider that BH doesn't do any work in pushing his targets either. He switches really often, usually with no attached reason, and he's so erratic that no one really knows what he's going to do or why he's going to do it.

As town I feel like BH usually at least gives reasons for attacking people. It looks as if he feigned contribution on DP/Zentor, and stuff like this:

On December 02 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow all these people agreeing with me to lynch DP and I'm the only one with a good reason. Don't look gift horses in the mouth I guess


suggests that he's more concerned with his appearance than actually finding scum.

What's especially weird is his vote switches between DP and DYH. These are just done for no reason at all and he never states why his suspicion of either changes as he does it.

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone yet say that they find BH to be townie. Notice how people consistently call him scum (even marv did) and no one really considers him town, but there's always a different target with the attention on them.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 00:44 GMT
#984
I also think we should be pressuring these players:

MrZentor
Zealos
Dandel Ion
Shiaopi

since they essentially got away with either abstaining or not doing anything all day 1.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 02 2012 00:49 GMT
#985
You should fix your list.

I did a ton first day.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 00:51 GMT
#986
you're right, you did more than I gave you credit for.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
December 02 2012 00:51 GMT
#987
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Go back and look at how BH switches his votes and how he reasons them. Look at how he attacks DP.


I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Firstly, one could argue that voteswitching doesn't really tell us anything about how BH is scum or not. Sure, one could argue that, but then consider that BH doesn't do any work in pushing his targets either. He switches really often, usually with no attached reason, and he's so erratic that no one really knows what he's going to do or why he's going to do it.


ALWAYS with an attached reason, usually because unlike you I actually try to interact with people in this thread and listen to what they have to say. I don't think people here are retarded. I don't like getting talked out of things, but if someone genuinely convinces me that a read is wrong, then yes I will unvote and vote someone else because my goal is to lynch scum.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
As town I feel like BH usually at least gives reasons for attacking people. It looks as if he feigned contribution on DP/Zentor,

Zentor was a mistake, but I DID put in lots of work on both him and DP. just because I use links instead of quotes to make my meta cases more legible doesn't mean they're bad.
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
and stuff like this:

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow all these people agreeing with me to lynch DP and I'm the only one with a good reason. Don't look gift horses in the mouth I guess


suggests that he's more concerned with his appearance than actually finding scum.



What? It suggests that I'm dubious of people on my wagon but I'm still confident in my read.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
What's especially weird is his vote switches between DP and DYH. These are just done for no reason at all and he never states why his suspicion of either changes as he does it.

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone yet say that they find BH to be townie. Notice how people consistently call him scum (even marv did) and no one really considers him town, but there's always a different target with the attention on them.


I trust MrZ's read and I thought it was reasonable. I still think it's reasonable and DYH is scummy, and I swapped back to DP because I don't lynch blues D1.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 02 2012 00:51 GMT
#988
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
On December 02 2012 09:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
whatever, this is fruitless and marv might just be that bad.

So, let's kill BH then. Hopefully someone shoots him tonight.

Seriously, please go into a little more detail about why you want BH to get deaded.


I've mentioned this before, but:

Go back and look at how BH switches his votes and how he reasons them. Look at how he attacks DP.

Firstly, one could argue that voteswitching doesn't really tell us anything about how BH is scum or not. Sure, one could argue that, but then consider that BH doesn't do any work in pushing his targets either. He switches really often, usually with no attached reason, and he's so erratic that no one really knows what he's going to do or why he's going to do it.

As town I feel like BH usually at least gives reasons for attacking people. It looks as if he feigned contribution on DP/Zentor, and stuff like this:

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow all these people agreeing with me to lynch DP and I'm the only one with a good reason. Don't look gift horses in the mouth I guess


suggests that he's more concerned with his appearance than actually finding scum.

What's especially weird is his vote switches between DP and DYH. These are just done for no reason at all and he never states why his suspicion of either changes as he does it.

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone yet say that they find BH to be townie. Notice how people consistently call him scum (even marv did) and no one really considers him town, but there's always a different target with the attention on them.


Before Mario mafia I would have agreed with this wholeheartedly. BH hopped around manically in that game though.

I heavily attacked him because one moment he said Z-Boson was town. Then town was switching off someone else and on to Z-Boson, and suddenly Z-Boson was definitely scum:

On November 15 2012 10:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:
I mean, I personally don't think ZB is scum right now. Earlier I did for the way he was trying to set up town cred with his voting pattern, but iamp correctly noted that ZB straightened up after his initial OMGUS on me. This could be due to scum thread coaching, I'll admit, but the aggression he displayed, however wrong-headed, is town to me.



Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote:
._. curse you DP for casting doubt into my heart. I'll just shoot you tonight with all my vigi bullets then

##unvote
##vote ZB



Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:47 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:46 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote:
._. curse you DP for casting doubt into my heart. I'll just shoot you tonight with all my vigi bullets then

##unvote
##vote ZB

...........................................wat


it'll all make sense after the flip!

no explain fucking now


ZB... will flip scum.


cool story bro

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 00:54 GMT
#989
On December 02 2012 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Go back and look at how BH switches his votes and how he reasons them. Look at how he attacks DP.


I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Firstly, one could argue that voteswitching doesn't really tell us anything about how BH is scum or not. Sure, one could argue that, but then consider that BH doesn't do any work in pushing his targets either. He switches really often, usually with no attached reason, and he's so erratic that no one really knows what he's going to do or why he's going to do it.


ALWAYS with an attached reason, usually because unlike you I actually try to interact with people in this thread and listen to what they have to say. I don't think people here are retarded. I don't like getting talked out of things, but if someone genuinely convinces me that a read is wrong, then yes I will unvote and vote someone else because my goal is to lynch scum.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
As town I feel like BH usually at least gives reasons for attacking people. It looks as if he feigned contribution on DP/Zentor,

Zentor was a mistake, but I DID put in lots of work on both him and DP. just because I use links instead of quotes to make my meta cases more legible doesn't mean they're bad.
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
and stuff like this:

On December 02 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow all these people agreeing with me to lynch DP and I'm the only one with a good reason. Don't look gift horses in the mouth I guess


suggests that he's more concerned with his appearance than actually finding scum.



What? It suggests that I'm dubious of people on my wagon but I'm still confident in my read.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
What's especially weird is his vote switches between DP and DYH. These are just done for no reason at all and he never states why his suspicion of either changes as he does it.

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone yet say that they find BH to be townie. Notice how people consistently call him scum (even marv did) and no one really considers him town, but there's always a different target with the attention on them.


I trust MrZ's read and I thought it was reasonable. I still think it's reasonable and DYH is scummy, and I swapped back to DP because I don't lynch blues D1.


the "best case" on DP was still garbage, and despite the fact that I pointed that out repeatedly you managed (along with derpellosity over here) to still tunnel him to death.

So, BH, if you are town, who is scum then?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 02 2012 00:56 GMT
#990
sorry bugs, I forgot you never lynched townies Day 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 00:57 GMT
#991
On December 02 2012 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
sorry bugs, I forgot you never lynched townies Day 1.


it's pretty rare for me to be correct on day 1 but I almost always oppose the obvious lynches that happen against townies on d1.

Usually it's because the most successful wagons on day 1 are almost always the worst ones.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 00:58 GMT
#992
also I find it ironic that you are trying to discredit me now when you tried to use past results to justify that your trash case on DP.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 02 2012 01:00 GMT
#993
On December 02 2012 09:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I find it ironic that you are trying to discredit me now when you tried to use past results to justify that your trash case on DP.



I'm not trying to discredit you at all, I'm basically asking that you stop calling me bad for lynching a townie day 1 as if it's never happened before.

We can call a truce on it or I can just carry on being a dick to you too, but I'd really rather not at this stage.

I thought I was right about DP and I wasn't, it doesn't make me a bad player all of a sudden.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 02 2012 01:03 GMT
#994
On December 02 2012 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

This is the part that I disagree with.

He pointed out a direct counter-point to your claim, but that didn't change anything? "Herp derp, Here's what DP only does when he's scum." "Oh wait, he did that as town before too? DOESN'T MATTER STILL SCUM."

That's such faulty logic that I find it hard to believe that you actually believed that. The case itself was fine, but when presented evidence to the contrary, you just didn't care and kept on tunneling.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
December 02 2012 01:07 GMT
#995
On December 02 2012 10:03 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

This is the part that I disagree with.

He pointed out a direct counter-point to your claim, but that didn't change anything? "Herp derp, Here's what DP only does when he's scum." "Oh wait, he did that as town before too? DOESN'T MATTER STILL SCUM."

That's such faulty logic that I find it hard to believe that you actually believed that. The case itself was fine, but when presented evidence to the contrary, you just didn't care and kept on tunneling.


I'm either tunnelling or wishy-washy you can't have it both ways
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
December 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#996
On December 02 2012 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Go back and look at how BH switches his votes and how he reasons them. Look at how he attacks DP.


I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Firstly, one could argue that voteswitching doesn't really tell us anything about how BH is scum or not. Sure, one could argue that, but then consider that BH doesn't do any work in pushing his targets either. He switches really often, usually with no attached reason, and he's so erratic that no one really knows what he's going to do or why he's going to do it.


ALWAYS with an attached reason, usually because unlike you I actually try to interact with people in this thread and listen to what they have to say. I don't think people here are retarded. I don't like getting talked out of things, but if someone genuinely convinces me that a read is wrong, then yes I will unvote and vote someone else because my goal is to lynch scum.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
As town I feel like BH usually at least gives reasons for attacking people. It looks as if he feigned contribution on DP/Zentor,

Zentor was a mistake, but I DID put in lots of work on both him and DP. just because I use links instead of quotes to make my meta cases more legible doesn't mean they're bad.
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
and stuff like this:

On December 02 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow all these people agreeing with me to lynch DP and I'm the only one with a good reason. Don't look gift horses in the mouth I guess


suggests that he's more concerned with his appearance than actually finding scum.



What? It suggests that I'm dubious of people on my wagon but I'm still confident in my read.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
What's especially weird is his vote switches between DP and DYH. These are just done for no reason at all and he never states why his suspicion of either changes as he does it.

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone yet say that they find BH to be townie. Notice how people consistently call him scum (even marv did) and no one really considers him town, but there's always a different target with the attention on them.


I trust MrZ's read and I thought it was reasonable. I still think it's reasonable and DYH is scummy, and I swapped back to DP because I don't lynch blues D1.


the "best case" on DP was still garbage, and despite the fact that I pointed that out repeatedly you managed (along with derpellosity over here) to still tunnel him to death.

So, BH, if you are town, who is scum then?


currently DYH, will have more closer to daybreak
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
December 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#997
On December 02 2012 10:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 02 2012 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Go back and look at how BH switches his votes and how he reasons them. Look at how he attacks DP.


I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Firstly, one could argue that voteswitching doesn't really tell us anything about how BH is scum or not. Sure, one could argue that, but then consider that BH doesn't do any work in pushing his targets either. He switches really often, usually with no attached reason, and he's so erratic that no one really knows what he's going to do or why he's going to do it.


ALWAYS with an attached reason, usually because unlike you I actually try to interact with people in this thread and listen to what they have to say. I don't think people here are retarded. I don't like getting talked out of things, but if someone genuinely convinces me that a read is wrong, then yes I will unvote and vote someone else because my goal is to lynch scum.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
As town I feel like BH usually at least gives reasons for attacking people. It looks as if he feigned contribution on DP/Zentor,

Zentor was a mistake, but I DID put in lots of work on both him and DP. just because I use links instead of quotes to make my meta cases more legible doesn't mean they're bad.
On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
and stuff like this:

On December 02 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow all these people agreeing with me to lynch DP and I'm the only one with a good reason. Don't look gift horses in the mouth I guess


suggests that he's more concerned with his appearance than actually finding scum.



What? It suggests that I'm dubious of people on my wagon but I'm still confident in my read.

On December 02 2012 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
What's especially weird is his vote switches between DP and DYH. These are just done for no reason at all and he never states why his suspicion of either changes as he does it.

Lastly, I haven't heard anyone yet say that they find BH to be townie. Notice how people consistently call him scum (even marv did) and no one really considers him town, but there's always a different target with the attention on them.


I trust MrZ's read and I thought it was reasonable. I still think it's reasonable and DYH is scummy, and I swapped back to DP because I don't lynch blues D1.


the "best case" on DP was still garbage, and despite the fact that I pointed that out repeatedly you managed (along with derpellosity over here) to still tunnel him to death.

So, BH, if you are town, who is scum then?


currently DYH, will have more closer to daybreak


subject of course to night acitons
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#998
On December 02 2012 10:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 10:03 Keirathi wrote:
On December 02 2012 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
I made by far the best case against DP, a solid (though as it turns out, ultimately incorrect) meta case. I sat down and did the homework on it. I'm gonna admit the reasoning on the MrZ vote was bad, but if your critique of my play is "BH swaps around a lot" then yeah okay I swap around a lot, but that's just how I roll.

This is the part that I disagree with.

He pointed out a direct counter-point to your claim, but that didn't change anything? "Herp derp, Here's what DP only does when he's scum." "Oh wait, he did that as town before too? DOESN'T MATTER STILL SCUM."

That's such faulty logic that I find it hard to believe that you actually believed that. The case itself was fine, but when presented evidence to the contrary, you just didn't care and kept on tunneling.


I'm either tunnelling or wishy-washy you can't have it both ways

Wat, I never said you were wishy-washy.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 02 2012 01:10 GMT
#999
EBWOP: Oh, I see. I just didn't cut out enough of the quote or bold the specific part I was referencing.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#1000
BH you tunneled him for being scum despite finding similarities in DP's play to his town game. Keirathi's point stands.
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