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On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was.
yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes.
stop being a baddie and assess the game properly.
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Blazinghand
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I must admit, "twinkletoes" is an insult that's funnier than it is mean. That one is okay. Let's try to be constructive though
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On December 02 2012 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
1) Blazinghand why is it okay for Marvelosity to call people retarded but not Bug?
2) Blazinghand, why was marv fake-claiming scum when votes were on him, but "gets a check tonight" now that he's not lynched?
3) Bugs and Ace, I'm intrigued by your ideas and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I like you, bearded man.
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On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly.
you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move?
If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie.
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On December 02 2012 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly. you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move? If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie.
yes, i think claiming cop is a good idea when the votes were rushing on to me, and everyone was refusing to give any reasons.
The votes should not be on me and they should be on finding scum.
How am I supposed to argue against everyone's non-existent cases?
"marv is playing weird"
"marv is likelier scum than x"
"marv is something else that doesn't at all describe why i'm scum in any way"
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On December 02 2012 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
austinmcc you can continue to talk about this or you can talk about real things, and one way will have me ignoring you.
Here, let's play a game. The game is called
Are these two posts harmonious, or are they contradictory?
On December 02 2012 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Well at least we didn't lynch the vigi. Damn DYH you ass you needed to claim much earlier than that. Now at least one of you/marv will be able to get your night action done though :D On December 02 2012 08:19 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:18 austinmcc wrote:On December 02 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote:
DYH is definitely not above suspicion. I just don't lynch claimed blues D1. But the way he claimed was probably... the worst possible way to claim and the least useful for town. That's fine, but...I did not expect posts like these from you guys: On December 02 2012 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Well at least we didn't lynch the vigi. Damn DYH you ass you needed to claim much earlier than that. Now at least one of you/marv will be able to get your night action done though :D On December 02 2012 08:12 marvellosity wrote:
DYH needs to make sure he claims his shot pre-deadline Both are ... more certain than I like? that DYH is a vigi Um, look dude DYH needs to make these claims specifically because he's a scummy ass and quite possibly not a vigi. He is not confirmed. He is not a town-read in my book.
I don't care if you're scum or not (that's a lie; I care). But I find those two statements contradictory, and you seem to be attacking me for my conclusion. So...are those posts contradictory or harmonious?
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On December 02 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly. you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move? If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie. yes, i think claiming cop is a good idea when the votes were rushing on to me, and everyone was refusing to give any reasons. The votes should not be on me and they should be on finding scum. How am I supposed to argue against everyone's non-existent cases? "marv is playing weird" "marv is likelier scum than x" "marv is something else that doesn't at all describe why i'm scum in any way"
and yet you caused the bandwagon on DP for exactly the same reasons.
What have we concluded here? Oh, right, that people in mafia games bandwagon for stupid reasons.
Doesn't change the fact that you're scum, though!
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Blazinghand
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I think someone could still reasonably make the case marv that you should have waited longer before claiming, or, even against a bad case, argued more ardently before claiming.
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On December 02 2012 08:41 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly. you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move? If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie. yes, i think claiming cop is a good idea when the votes were rushing on to me, and everyone was refusing to give any reasons. The votes should not be on me and they should be on finding scum. How am I supposed to argue against everyone's non-existent cases? "marv is playing weird" "marv is likelier scum than x" "marv is something else that doesn't at all describe why i'm scum in any way" and yet you caused the bandwagon on DP for exactly the same reasons.What have we concluded here? Oh, right, that people in mafia games bandwagon for stupid reasons. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum, though!
now who's misrepresenting the thread?
stop it.
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On December 02 2012 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
I think someone could still reasonably make the case marv that you should have waited longer before claiming, or, even against a bad case, argued more ardently before claiming.
do you really need me to go and compile a bunch of votes/reasons that I couldn't argue against?
is there some mathematic formula i should be aware of for when to claim?
is 70 minutse before deadline acceptable, but 90 is not?
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I find DYH's actions outside the lynch deadline (outside of the claim itself) pretty suspicious. He quietly bandwagoned on DP without reasoning an hour before the deadline, then posted nothing for almost an hour. When the bandwagon suddenly turned to DYH, he immediately reacted and tried to give some reads to save himself. Then came the Vigi claim obviously. And then he disappeared once again (actually AFK or just lurking?). It doesn't paint a good picture of him. But all of this will be decided by his shot claim anyway, so it's not of much use to think about this, I guess.
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* outside the lynch deadline = around the lynch deadline...
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On December 02 2012 08:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly. you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move? If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie. yes, i think claiming cop is a good idea when the votes were rushing on to me, and everyone was refusing to give any reasons. The votes should not be on me and they should be on finding scum. How am I supposed to argue against everyone's non-existent cases? "marv is playing weird" "marv is likelier scum than x" "marv is something else that doesn't at all describe why i'm scum in any way" and yet you caused the bandwagon on DP for exactly the same reasons.What have we concluded here? Oh, right, that people in mafia games bandwagon for stupid reasons. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum, though! now who's misrepresenting the thread? stop it.
Keep talking, you give me more ammo every time you do.
You complain that no one had "adequate reason" to vote you, yet you simply throw around unsubstantiated shit like "you're misrepresenting the thread".
The simple fact is, there exists documented evidence that I was right about DP and that you were full of hot air. If you are town you need to realize this. The fact that you refuse to realize it either means you're just a stubborn townie who's playing badly (certainly possible) or, my hypothesis, that you're pressured scum.
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Ace will be replaced by Keirathi. Effective immediately.
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On December 02 2012 08:45 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:42 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly. you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move? If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie. yes, i think claiming cop is a good idea when the votes were rushing on to me, and everyone was refusing to give any reasons. The votes should not be on me and they should be on finding scum. How am I supposed to argue against everyone's non-existent cases? "marv is playing weird" "marv is likelier scum than x" "marv is something else that doesn't at all describe why i'm scum in any way" and yet you caused the bandwagon on DP for exactly the same reasons.What have we concluded here? Oh, right, that people in mafia games bandwagon for stupid reasons. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum, though! now who's misrepresenting the thread? stop it. Keep talking, you give me more ammo every time you do. You complain that no one had "adequate reason" to vote you, yet you simply throw around unsubstantiated shit like "you're misrepresenting the thread". The simple fact is, there exists documented evidence that I was right about DP and that you were full of hot air. If you are town you need to realize this. The fact that you refuse to realize it either means you're just a stubborn townie who's playing badly (certainly possible) or, my hypothesis, that you're pressured scum.
you're arguing separate things. obviously i was wrong about DP, what's to argue with? you are misrepresenting the thread, do you want me to go and paste the reasons i was voting for DP?
what am I 'not realising'?
what you are 'not realising' is that I am town, who got backed into a corner, whether it's Zentor's "being weird", BH's non-reason, or Ace's non-reason (i literally can't remember the reasons half the people voted for me).
Personally if i'm blue and getting lynched i'm gonna claim.
If I'd got lynched and I'd flipped cop, everyone would be shouting "y u no claim marvelbabes?!?"?"?!?!"
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The bad thing about a Detective claim is that there's no way to verify what marvellosity checked :/ Unlike with Vigi. I guess I'm going to sleep now though. I want to see DYH's shot claim before making any final judgements (although unfortunately I'm probably the target if he really is Vigi).
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Keirathi and eventually Sandroba, welcome aboard.
marv and bugs, knock it off. I can't speak for everyone, but I quit reading what you guys posted for these last couple pages. If what you have to say is important, then you're both negatively impacting yourselves here. So...beyond just keeping it civil, how about you both quit sniping at each other?
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On December 02 2012 08:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 08:45 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:42 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:39 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:34 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 08:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
w/e I'm gonna go eat.
Scoreboard:
Me 1
Retard Train (aka everyone else) 0 nuh uh, you're on the retard train coz you were voting for the cop. sorry buddy. the guy who claimed cop d1 dares call someone else stupid? well I guess it was a pretty smart move for you considering that you are scum and everyone else is too stupid to realize how much of a scummy move that was. yes, because it's even stupider that you were still voting for me, twinkletoes. stop being a baddie and assess the game properly. you think claiming cop day 1 as town is a good move? If so, then stop fucking calling me a baddie. yes, i think claiming cop is a good idea when the votes were rushing on to me, and everyone was refusing to give any reasons. The votes should not be on me and they should be on finding scum. How am I supposed to argue against everyone's non-existent cases? "marv is playing weird" "marv is likelier scum than x" "marv is something else that doesn't at all describe why i'm scum in any way" and yet you caused the bandwagon on DP for exactly the same reasons.What have we concluded here? Oh, right, that people in mafia games bandwagon for stupid reasons. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum, though! now who's misrepresenting the thread? stop it. Keep talking, you give me more ammo every time you do. You complain that no one had "adequate reason" to vote you, yet you simply throw around unsubstantiated shit like "you're misrepresenting the thread". The simple fact is, there exists documented evidence that I was right about DP and that you were full of hot air. If you are town you need to realize this. The fact that you refuse to realize it either means you're just a stubborn townie who's playing badly (certainly possible) or, my hypothesis, that you're pressured scum. you're arguing separate things. obviously i was wrong about DP, what's to argue with? you are misrepresenting the thread, do you want me to go and paste the reasons i was voting for DP? what am I 'not realising'? what you are 'not realising' is that I am town, who got backed into a corner, whether it's Zentor's "being weird", BH's non-reason, or Ace's non-reason (i literally can't remember the reasons half the people voted for me). Personally if i'm blue and getting lynched i'm gonna claim. If I'd got lynched and I'd flipped cop, everyone would be shouting "y u no claim marvelbabes?!?"?"?!?!"
You argue that people were giving shitty reasons to vote you. I argue that you used even shittier reasons to vote DP. For the record, when I asked you for concrete examples of how DP's play fit his scum meta, you told me to, I quote, "fuck off". What you are not realising if you are town is that you are being incredibly dense. The fact that people use shitty reasons to BANDWAGON is nothing new. People bandwagon scum or town targets more or less the same (although unfortunately it's more often that they kill a townie day 1). I tried to get people off DP because, as I said, your argument was weak as fuck. You chose not to clarify it, either because you didn't have evidence that DP was following his scum meta (my opinion) or that you're just stubborn as hell.
Secondly, why would it matter if you were backed into a corner? As town why would you refuse to provide evidence for DP following his scum meta? As town why would you complain about people using shitty reasons to vote others while doing it yourself? Let me reiterate: As town why would you tell someone to fuck off when they ask you why you think your target is scum?
Townies don't do that-if they have a target and they truly believe that the person is scum for X reason, they will explain X reason. You didn't explain it, you told me to fuck off.
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