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On November 26 2012 19:27 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 19:15 Dienosore wrote:On November 26 2012 18:53 Promethelax wrote:On November 26 2012 18:52 risk.nuke wrote:On November 26 2012 18:50 Promethelax wrote:
Dieno: could you tell us what you infer from your crazy maps? Those help us as much as me posting a list of player names with everyone shaded a different shade of purple. It probably means something to me but you have no idea what. It's more simmilar to posting bad/useless lists. Except worse. I think it has gone past that to totally meaningless. That is why I want his conclusions. If ntohing else they are good for a laugh. They are relationship maps, not scum/town indicators. If someone is talking about someone else, I connect them with the arrow pointing towards who is being talked about. The more erratic the line, the more negativity associated with it. The maps don't lean one way or another, they are a tool that shows who feels what about who, and who is talking about who. While this is all good by itself, the real fun comes when you start cross-referencing people from day to day as situations change. Also, it is useful to see how the names group up, and if there are any cliques forming. Anyone specific you want a conclusion about? I'd like the conclusions you feel are most important, the ones you think I should be paying attention to. Risk: who are those you feel more strongly about than me as scum? Since I am (as far as I can tell) on your be-wary-of-but-don't-bother to-deal-with-yet list. I'd also like your opinion on the necessity of a name claim from me, esspecially for the reason which Syllo gave.
That's actually an excellent description of how I feel about you.
As for people I want dead I have Toad and then VIscera, Adam and CJ.
I don't agree with Syllos reason to why you should claim your name. It might help to determine if it fits your role but I don't think it will exhaust one of mafias safe claims if you're scum.
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On November 26 2012 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:if 3 of them are scum, who credible is gonna push their cases for them? No one wins if no one votes for them beside themselves. Im just sad that my initial read on Toad was wrong 
Theoretically, the more of them that run the higher chances townies will pick one of them up to be elected.
And Syllo. I can also write 4 names and point fingers while conveniently claiming that I can change any name anytime I want because I haven't read the thread. If you're going to show up then do it right or don't bother.
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My building have been without internet since last night. I think things are working again now.
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If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop.
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On November 28 2012 01:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop. I can't say what I need to do, because anybody with Chrono Trigger lore knowledge will probably be able to figure out who I am. As there's probably mechanisms to prevent that from being a good idea, you'll just have to trust me. Have I given you any reason not to trust me?
Lets put it this way, If you were third party who's objective would hurt town. Would you claim that or something in the lines of what you just did?
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On November 28 2012 01:50 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 01:46 risk.nuke wrote:On November 28 2012 01:43 Acrofales wrote:On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop. I can't say what I need to do, because anybody with Chrono Trigger lore knowledge will probably be able to figure out who I am. As there's probably mechanisms to prevent that from being a good idea, you'll just have to trust me. Have I given you any reason not to trust me? Lets put it this way, If you were third party who's objective would hurt town. Would you claim that or something in the lines of what you just did? I would lie my ass off. However, I would probably not be leaking 3rd party on all sides. I am a better player than that and you should know it. I played the way I did precisely because I am helping town. If you have any specific accusations, go ahead and make them.
You were suspected as scum even with the play you've played. Playing worse might had gotten you lynched already. You're asking us to trust you but you should understand there is no way that's going to happen.
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Should be noted. Syllos own contributions to the mason circle was joining it. Contribute zero. Outing it. *Clap Clap*
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Because your question was useless. Kitaman accomplishments was a dubious troll campaign and you question why I was under the impression he was scummy.
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Anyway GK is very likely town. And syllo should go fall in a pit and die.
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I confirm GK's outdraws. As for the rest, you can dream on you'll get the logs Prom. And I really doubt GK is scum. Why you're trying to pin the failed mission on him with Keir and Acro on the party I don't understand. Think of it as four normal townies give 4.0 Keir have a low rating so give him 0.5. This party had 2.5/4.0 with GK as town.
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I didn't have time to read the case even if I wanted to right now, I got to run for class.
And the reason your [tags] mess up your post is most likely because when you're doing double tags (red)(b)Example(/b)(/red) make sure the inner and outer tags on both sides is the same. Example do not do (b)(red)Example(/b)(/red). It messes up tags under some conditions.
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On November 29 2012 21:58 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 21:54 Acrofales wrote:
@everybody else. I have a question I want answered.
Anybody want to own up to dealing damage to me? I really doubt it was scum: they know I'm not one of them, so have no reason to mistrust my survivor claim and that removes me from their wincon. Scum shots on me are wasted shots.
That leaves town or someone who needs me dead. If it's town, just tell me, I won't be mad. Otherwise I will assume someone needs me dead and take precautions tomorrow night. I have something that sounds like it could be a paranoid gunman ability. I think it'll be fun. Want to play chicken with me, mr X?
@Kita, did you take any damage? I promise I didn't shoot you. Could you explain what a paranoid gunman ability is? There's a lot of terms flying around that I'm simply not used to. By the sound of it, you damage anyone who "visits" you?
It's an unusual role.
http://wiki.scumhunt.com/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner
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And get real. Karma being on this party tells you nothing about his alignment because regardless of if he is scum or town the mission would fail. It's riddiculous how you (acro and prom) hold it against him as if there was minor chance he could have effected the outcome.
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lol no problem 
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Goodkarmas behavior (not actions) when I invited him I have an impossible time to make sense from as a scum perspective. I could understand third party but that is near impossible from how insanely weak a third party he would be, and scum or third party wouldn't shoot at CJ!
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He aimed at you cycle 1. And no third party wouldn't and he can't be third party because his role is to weak and doesn't fit the profile. Scum wouldn't shoot you over likely townies.
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For the same reason I voted for him for the first cycle.
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Syllogism's thought process. This role isn't a mafia role. And if this was a mafia role this is a very suboptimal way to play. But there is a crystal ball in the tent flavor so this is probably a huge ploy where mafia scum buddies goodkarma and risknuke are trying to sell themselves of as town.
And I didn't know if inviting someone counted as a roleblockable action. But hey thanks for outing my name... there probably will be no consequences.
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This is what it refers to.
Greymist: Its the inside of a Tent! Its strangely dark and there appears to be a crystal ball on a table.
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On November 30 2012 01:48 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 01:42 risk.nuke wrote:
Syllogism's thought process. This role isn't a mafia role. And if this was a mafia role this is a very suboptimal way to play. But there is a crystal ball in the tent flavor so this is probably a huge ploy where mafia scum buddies goodkarma and risknuke are trying to sell themselves of as town.
And I didn't know if inviting someone counted as a roleblockable action. But hey thanks for outing my name... there probably will be no consequences. It's an incredibly suboptimal way regardless of alignment and some of the things that were said by you were just mindboggling. It doesn't help that, of course, that I was suspicious of your play even before that so I'm interpreting everything through that prism. What kind of consequences do you expect there to be for outing a name of a minor character? You didn't even think it was important to keep it secret as you voluntarily divulged the name before anyone even had posted in the QT. We've had two major characters claim their names and neither of them has even been roleblocked yet.
I don't know this is a heavily themed greymist game. For all we know there is third party out there who's objective is to kill me or someone else and now knows it's not me. Then there is the general always a downside to nameclaiming to prevent people from trying to mass-claim. For all we know at any point in the game the mafia can wipe out everyone who's name they know. So now it's your turn. Please, tell me the benefits of nameclaim?
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