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On December 11 2012 00:23 syllogism wrote: Okay I forgive you for delaying the game by one cycle This. Getting you to post that was totally worth it. | ||
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1. I am in fact 3P (thank you, my role pm agrees with you). 2. Nobody else looks like scum. Therefore we should lynch 3P. Why, when we have obvious scum sitting right in front of us? I will simply repeat myself until the rest of town figures this out: austinmcc has not addressed the fact that he was not looking past preventing himself getting lynched by making a case on the ONLY person who he could possibly get town to switch to. He did not bother figuring out how his role worked, despite calling it scummy when SnB did not do that exact same thing. He cannot explain why the shield on Hapa appears to not have existed. He knows the rest of town has caught him out. He knows any case he makes on anybody else will look forced, because it WILL be forced (they're town after all). His only hope is to lynch the 3P. Now me being a survivor obviously has me with a vested interest in surviving, but even without that, it is clear that austin is scum. He's run out of rocks to hide under and that is about it. He first threw the towel in the ring with his wise men post, but rather than continuing to blazinghand up the thread in hilarious manner, he took the lifeline Oats threw him. Oh, and if you think I will be no help vs. Lavos, my 100 damage is worth 4 cycles of most townies being alive. I think I will more than pay for myself. I don't need your heals, I still have oodles of hitpoints. | ||
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On December 11 2012 02:03 Keirathi wrote: I really don't think austin is scum. I didn't think ZB was scum, and austin hasn't really changed that. His play just feels COMPLETELY different than his scum play in Aperture 2. I don't know what you expect from a town austin, but accusing him for going after the 3rd party is silly. Not that I particularly want to lynch Acro either, but "I think you're scum. Go prove that you aren't by finding scum for us because I'm too lazy and don't feel like looking at anyone except you" is silly. Fine. I'll go and read Aperture 2. However, if you don't think austin is scum, who do you think IS the remaining scum? You know it's not me (or should, because even austin cannot make that case). You can use my handy colored chart to see what abilities confirm whom and work from there, or you can strike out on your own, but we know there is still scum left, or Lavos would've been summoned 2 cycles ago. So if not, austin, you have to find someone else. You cannot just say "austin isn't scum". The game doesn't work that way. | ||
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In the meantime I'll look at Hapa, but I really doubt I'll find anything new. | ||
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On December 11 2012 03:25 kitaman27 wrote: Acro only needing to kill a mafia member seems somewhat unlikely. At some point, he claimed his win condition hadn't been met yet and I believe Toad was dead by that point, but a 38 page filter is impossible to search through. I wonder if the all function goes away on a 50 page filter :p That is correct. I lied, because I didn't want my wincon known, or guessable at that point yet. I have a hard time believing that the Magus boss battle had absolutely nothing to do with his character. Perhaps he was recruited based upon the outcome of the event? Either way, I think he should be roleblocked into oblivion. His 100 damage doesn't help much if it is aimed at one of us, while jailing our damage output in the process. Once we lose the lynch, we have no way to punish his actions since all kp will be aimed at lavos. Insofar as I know, the Magus boss battle had absolutely nothing to do with my role. My role pm at least mentions nothing about it. I gave arguments for what I thought were the best options for town to win the event, based on how the fight goes in the actual game. Syllo should definitely block him just in case. I might also, even if he is claiming that I can't. <snip> You can't tonight. You can tomorrow night and afterwards. I am fine being roleblocked. I don't think I need my heal. I don't particularly NEED to shoot Lavos either. I will, however be aimed at Lavos tomorrow, so Syllo the watcher could confirm that I am targeting Lavos if you really want to be paranoid. Other than that, I have to use Dark Mist tonight (either that, or Black Gemstone, and I prefer Dark Mist right now). | ||
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Three quarters of the town is confirmed because they have consistently backed up each other's actions. Not because they have claimed to have taken damage. In other news: I read Hapa's filter and find he actually looks townier than last time I checked. The only possible way I can see him being scum after going nuts at phagga last cycle, is if he is scum together with austin. In that case, I still prefer to lynch austin first. While austinmcc is making a valliant attempt, he is still scum. | ||
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1. If he had been scum with Sandro, he could simply have withheld his scumread on Sandro and laughed their way to the bank on D1. 2. He put together a successful party. We have seen that party with Keirathi and a 3P fails. It seems impossible that Syllo is scum based on the D1 party. 3. He blew risk.nuke's mason chat wide open. If this was a scumplan, it was retarded. 4. He claimed watcher seeing SnB visit someone he shouldn't. Killing yet another scum. With all of this pretty much confirming Syllo as town, his damage claim sounds truthful. NOT the other way round. If you want, I can do this for all the people I marked as green in my list. Could save you about 350 pages of filters before you are forced to conclude that you, in fact, are the final scum. | ||
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1. He was on a successful party 2. The whole "low success modifier" was too weird for a fakeclaim when the OP explicitly states that the success modifier was hidden. His reaction at me made sense. 3. He claims he gets abilities from successful parties he's on. By being on the party he was able to jail syllo. Syllo claimed roleblocked and nobody counterclaimed. Other nights he claimed no abilities. Number 3 means that either scum has a roleblocker who only roleblocked once (all other blocks are claimed), or roleblocked people like CJ. There also seems to be less KP on N2 than on N1 or N3, making it likely that scum targeted Syllo while he was jailed. The rest of my town read on Keirathi was based on him not playing like scum. Also, Tata makes absolutely perfect sense for Keirathi's earlier claims. It is a hilarious troll role by Greymist. | ||
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Also, I totally told you so about austin. Again. I presume THAT is what was redacted and probably why I shouldn't have claimed. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:00 Hapahauli wrote: Did you receive any info about how much HP Toad spawned with? I'm going to assume full HP. No clue really. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:02 Toadesstern wrote: sup guyses. Thx for reviving me Was there any way I could have avoided it? :S | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:06 Keirathi wrote: Does Acro even need to have Toad dead to win? I mean, do you have to complete both the primary AND secondary win-cons simultaneously to win? I was just told that and repeated it in the thread. I need to kill Toad... again, to win the game. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:09 Toadesstern wrote: What's acros win-con? I didn't really pay attention to anything past d1.5. I highly doubt that he has to kill me for a wincon though. Just got told by Greymist I couldn't have prevented your revival. Guess I'll just have to kill you AGAIN to win. Still waiting to hear whether my sword hits through my black hole, or whether I cannot roleblock you if I want to do max damage. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:12 TheChronicler wrote: I'm guessing he hasn't used it since he just learned it. Probably does dmg to both toad and Lavos. Sick shit  Should be an easy win from here just target Lavos and if he dies then we can help acro by killing toad? I'm assuming toad respawned with full hp. So since acro says he can hit toad for 200 dmg a turn 5 cycles til toad death. I think Lavos killing us off will mean 4 cycles til he's dead. So maybe we coordinate the dmg abilities so we can split the last cycle? I can't do shit, sorry guys. Doesn't look like it matters, though. Anyways, claim dmg in thread so we can plan this out? I need to kill Toad before Lavos dies. Toad has to be dead when the game ends for me to win. | ||
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On December 11 2012 09:29 TheChronicler wrote: Just occurred to me that acro could be the last scum who knew toad would resurrect when Lavos came back if there was faction kp last night. Based on what idiocy did you get that conclusion? | ||
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