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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
December 06 2012 13:09 GMT
#6621
On December 06 2012 21:36 Acrofales wrote:
Which makes me wonder: why is Kita lying about his night actions?


lol

If I didn't target Cave with my roleblock, who did I target?

So I was the strongest opponent to a scum sandroba election, I roleblocked a scum toad twice, I got targeted by VE's abilities, I roleblocked a scum VE, I mentioned multiple times that I thought VE was scum, I caught S&B in his fake claim, and I've been targeting Cave (and hopeless once n2) with my night hits. Clearly my strategy is to bus my entire team, shoot the troll, and hope Lavos can take out the 15+ remaining townies.

@syllo, does a roleclaim benefit us right now? I'm clearly not scum, only the third party player is suspicious of me, and revealing how my role works provides the mafia team with extra information.

Like I said before, I'd be willing to claim if Acro wants to come clean. At least that benefits town information wise.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#6622
Still nothing from risk.nuke

I guess hes packed it in like sandroba

##Lynch risk.nuke
##Epoch Middle Ages

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#6623
It probably doesn't benefit at all, I just don't like having unsolved mysteries and it doesn't seem like mafia can do anything even if you do claim
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
December 06 2012 13:18 GMT
#6624
Do you agree that now would be a good time for phagga to reveal his name?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2012 13:20 GMT
#6625
Yes, I've my own assumption about his role and if it works as he has described it's hard to see how it is a mafia role, but again I can't imagine what mafia could possibly do with the information
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
December 06 2012 13:36 GMT
#6626
Something that we should try to do is to coordinate our roleblocks. It might be possible to shut down the mafia kp this way.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 06 2012 13:44 GMT
#6627
On December 06 2012 22:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Something that we should try to do is to coordinate our roleblocks. It might be possible to shut down the mafia kp this way.


do you read the thread?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2012 13:47 GMT
#6628
We can't shut down factional KP, but we can shut down their damaging abilities and it's clear that they still have some. Anyway, not sure if coordinating is worthwhile since it has to be done in public.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 06 2012 13:47 GMT
#6629
For Kita

So many posts just got buried in this game.

I don't regret having a 6 page filter.

At all.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 06 2012 13:49 GMT
#6630
So be it then.

first letter of the words:
On November 23 2012 02:56 phagga wrote:
Kush is now on my "never-play-with-him-again"-list.

@CaveJohnson I'm confused, are you Drazerk and your role name is The Chef or is your role name Drazerk?


First letter of the n-th word in the n-th sentence in each paragraph:
On November 23 2012 06:52 phagga wrote:
I went through Syllos filter. I agree that he looks very townie indeed. Before I make a final decision where my vote stands, though, I want to hear from Kita again.

Kita, are you still running with the same team? Or is it possible you'll switch someone out?

Now, I finally need to drive home, it's almost 11pm and I'm still at work. I ought to be home in about 30 minutes, will therefore be online again before deadline if nothing crazy happens.



I am Kino.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 06 2012 13:50 GMT
#6631
Okay that is not at all what I was expecting. Why didn't you want to claim?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 06 2012 13:52 GMT
#6632
I just did not want to reveal information unnecessary. It was already incredibly stupid how I revealed my ability.

Also, I think I never said I do not want to claim, I just asked kita why he wants me to claim, and he never answered.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17954 Posts
December 06 2012 13:57 GMT
#6633
On December 06 2012 22:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:36 Acrofales wrote:
Which makes me wonder: why is Kita lying about his night actions?


lol

If I didn't target Cave with my roleblock, who did I target?

So I was the strongest opponent to a scum sandroba election, I roleblocked a scum toad twice, I got targeted by VE's abilities, I roleblocked a scum VE, I mentioned multiple times that I thought VE was scum, I caught S&B in his fake claim, and I've been targeting Cave (and hopeless once n2) with my night hits. Clearly my strategy is to bus my entire team, shoot the troll, and hope Lavos can take out the 15+ remaining townies.

@syllo, does a roleclaim benefit us right now? I'm clearly not scum, only the third party player is suspicious of me, and revealing how my role works provides the mafia team with extra information.

Like I said before, I'd be willing to claim if Acro wants to come clean. At least that benefits town information wise.

If you had read my post you would also have seen that I don't think you're scum. Doesn't mean I don't think you're lying.

As for claiming, I don't know why you're trying to connect my claiming my identity to you claiming how your ability works. I don't really care about having the knowledge out there. I care about resolving things that don't make sense. Your claiming helps with the second part. My claiming anything further is only putting information in the thread for the sake of sating your curiosity.

As for whom you roleblocked? Maybe you didn't roleblock anybody. You've only roleblocked 2 people who have claimed and not been counterclaimed. While you seem to have a roleblock, I am starting to doubt you have used it every night since N1. Did you breadcrumb your roleblocks before they happened? Because claiming roleblocks on scum posthumously is a pretty easy thing to do.

I think you're probably 3P and your wincon may or may not be helpful to town. My guess is that it's not. However, it's probably not worth lynching you for, with risk.nuke pretty much claiming scum with his absence.

@Syllo: you have not roleblocked someone who was untargettable and had your action fizzle.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
December 06 2012 14:25 GMT
#6634
Forgot to vote for time period...

##Epoch: Middle Ages
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 06 2012 14:30 GMT
#6635
How many 3p do you think exist Acro?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
December 06 2012 15:08 GMT
#6636
On December 06 2012 00:30 risk.nuke wrote:
I have payed minimal attention to this game for the last weak. Nobody listened to me saying Viscera didn't play this as scum. Nobody listened when I told people don't claim your name or MY name there will be repercussions(Hi s&b). I couldn't go on missions and we had no lynches and when we did there were always obvious scum.

I'm active now because now I have something to do and this game doesn't make me drowsy looking at it.

For someone that is happy to finally have stuff to talk about you really haven't been doing it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 06 2012 15:51 GMT
#6637
Really tired: might be crazy. If scum have use for silver coins: kita=scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17954 Posts
December 06 2012 16:30 GMT
#6638
On December 06 2012 23:30 Promethelax wrote:
How many 3p do you think exist Acro?

No clue, but 2 doesn't sound outrageous.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 06 2012 18:00 GMT
#6639
Well, I waited until 4:30am my time for your defense, risk.

You better damn well flip scum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
December 06 2012 18:04 GMT
#6640
On December 06 2012 22:44 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 22:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Something that we should try to do is to coordinate our roleblocks. It might be possible to shut down the mafia kp this way.


do you read the thread?


Yep I'm aware of your thoughts on factional kps, but that still doesn't mean we shouldn't coordinate roleblocks. If they don't exist (which is possible if syllo wasn't targeted by the ability he recieved damage from or if you are misleading us), then we shutdown their damage output. If factional kps do exist, then we still shut down their abilities and limit their damage output.

I won't be back until after the deadline so I'll likely be on Cave tonight once again -_-

On December 06 2012 22:57 Acrofales wrote:
As for claiming, I don't know why you're trying to connect my claiming my identity to you claiming how your ability works. I don't really care about having the knowledge out there. I care about resolving things that don't make sense. Your claiming helps with the second part. My claiming anything further is only putting information in the thread for the sake of sating your curiosity.


In my opinion, I think the town would be much more interested in you providing further information about a player who has come up dirty on an alignment check and caused us to fail a mission, than hearing about the conditions under which I can use my abilities. What's not making sense is the condition that you suddenly met based on your claimed actions.

The reason you claim to want to keep your identity hidden is that player X might be hunting you.

Suppose player X is looking for his target to hunt.

He can choose between Robo, Kino, or the player who won't reveal his name because he is being hunted.

Who is player X going to go after?

On December 06 2012 22:57 Acrofales wrote:
As for whom you roleblocked? Maybe you didn't roleblock anybody. You've only roleblocked 2 people who have claimed and not been counterclaimed.


So you don't think I'm scum, but you think Cave and nuke are willing to lie for me? You've clearly thought this through.

On December 06 2012 22:57 Acrofales wrote:
I think you're probably 3P and your wincon may or may not be helpful to town. My guess is that it's not. However, it's probably not worth lynching you for, with risk.nuke pretty much claiming scum with his absence.


So you're guessing that I have an anti-town win condtion. That must mean that you've considered what type of win conditions I possibly could have.

What did you come up with based upon my night actions?

A serial killer who takes half the game to kill Cave?
A village idiot who isn't trying to get himself lynched?
Your mysterious hunter who has been shooting another target?
The evil chef killer?

You've clearly started trying to discredit me ever since I started pressuring you for a claim. Once we lynch our fifth scum, it's still my opinion that we should direct a lynch at you unless you stop witholding information.

As for the Kino claim, I'm don't recall any flavor for him involving absorbing other players abilities. Phagga doesn't really need to roleclaim this cycle, but it might help clearing things up the next time we reach a lynch cycle.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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