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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2012 00:25 GMT
#6301
On December 05 2012 09:21 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:16 Promethelax wrote:
So I guess Oats, Me and Kita aren't scum based on the actions claimed by SnB and VE.

Why you?

Oats took 250 damage. VE only claims he targeted you.

Also Syllo bussing both Sandro AND SnB? Not gonna happen.


Are you retarded? SnB targeted me too. No idea about VE. I don't think Syllo is scum. I looked at actions and I can't justify it to myself. Also think that the flipped scum generally clear Hapa, this team would be retarded to play this out how they have played.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 05 2012 00:25 GMT
#6302
One thing that is worrying me about drazerk:

In every single game, no matter if they are town/town or scum/town, draz and S&B yell at each other and fight because they HATE each other. There was none of that this game?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
December 05 2012 00:27 GMT
#6303
On December 05 2012 09:25 Keirathi wrote:
One thing that is worrying me about drazerk:

In every single game, no matter if they are town/town or scum/town, draz and S&B yell at each other and fight because they HATE each other. There was none of that this game?

That's what I meant with the weird interaction between the two. Also, it's more of a love-hate relationship.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 05 2012 00:30 GMT
#6304
On December 05 2012 09:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:25 Keirathi wrote:
One thing that is worrying me about drazerk:

In every single game, no matter if they are town/town or scum/town, draz and S&B yell at each other and fight because they HATE each other. There was none of that this game?

That's what I meant with the weird interaction between the two. Also, it's more of a love-hate relationship.

Yea I didn't actually see your post before I started writing mine
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:30 GMT
#6305
On December 05 2012 09:27 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:25 Keirathi wrote:
One thing that is worrying me about drazerk:

In every single game, no matter if they are town/town or scum/town, draz and S&B yell at each other and fight because they HATE each other. There was none of that this game?

That's what I meant with the weird interaction between the two. Also, it's more of a love-hate relationship.

There is only love between us. Also I brought this up on like Cycle 2.
Mafia smurf
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 05 2012 00:31 GMT
#6306
On November 27 2012 00:41 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.


I can tell... Notice how even SnB hasn't acted against me?

I thought I'd bring it up to you since you know our relationship a little too well

Mafia smurf
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 05 2012 00:33 GMT
#6307
On December 05 2012 09:24 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:20 Promethelax wrote:
I'm not a big fan of Risk's play. I'd love a transcript of the qt though to judge for myself. I don't get why Syllo won't share it with us.


My only reservation with Risk is that he's often a very easy mislych in games that he's town. However in this game, his play just feels waaaay to clean from what I've seen of his game. It looks like he's really trying to be careful and blend in. But at this point it's process of elimination. I have reasons to think just about every other player (save Drazerk) is town/third-party. Risk... not so much.


Do you get the feeling that he is playing careful or not playing at all? Could you give examples that made you lead to this conclusion please?


Well in town games I've seen him play (i.e. Liquid City), he really didn't give much of a shit about the game, and was posting seemingly "scummy" things left and right. At one point he posted something like "I'm going to wait after the Night Deadline to make a case on (playername) because I'm lazy".

In this game, he's inactive per usual, but his play is remarkably... clean. He has none of those stupid comments that plague his other games. He's also feels more detatched than normal.

But also his actions line up really well with what I'd expect mafia to do:
Day 1) Strong early support for Sandroba. Then switches to GoodKarma (who has Sandroba on his team).
Day 2) Strong early vote on Sandroba

He also voted both SnB and Toad quickly and decisively. His SnB vote also reads as pretty weird to me:
On December 03 2012 17:00 risk.nuke wrote:
##Vote strongandbig

Hapas first ability sound like bogus. The second sound like scum.


This kind of post is what I feel scum would make. He votes SnB without a word of the previous pages of conversation, then calls me scum. Being so willing to jump on another player in such a situation strikes me as scummy. Furthermore, both SnB and VisceraEyes have pushed suspicions on me fairly aggressively, and it lines up real neat with a mafia "strategy."
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
December 05 2012 00:35 GMT
#6308
On December 05 2012 09:25 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:21 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:16 Promethelax wrote:
So I guess Oats, Me and Kita aren't scum based on the actions claimed by SnB and VE.

Why you?

Oats took 250 damage. VE only claims he targeted you.

Also Syllo bussing both Sandro AND SnB? Not gonna happen.


Are you retarded? SnB targeted me too. No idea about VE. I don't think Syllo is scum. I looked at actions and I can't justify it to myself. Also think that the flipped scum generally clear Hapa, this team would be retarded to play this out how they have played.

Yeah, I meant SnB, not VE.

I had you down as town anyway, so it's not a big deal you claiming this. I just don't see the confirmed.

Here's my list, btw (no reasoning and horribly out of date. I'll do the reasoning sometime tomorrow on the scummers and nulls):


Oats
Syllo
Clarity
Keirathi
TC
Prom

H1
Iamp
Phagga
GK
Adam



Kita
CJ
austinmcc


risk.nuke


Btw, my main problem with risk is that he is doing the same as last game: when he feels he/his team cannot win anymore he just afks out. A town risk.nuke would be more active and in your face. At the very least, he would be up in my face. He's not. Ergo, he is scum who has given up.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2012 00:35 GMT
#6309
Also note that SnB refused to think about using his power to name check Risk. Like, didn't even think about it.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
December 05 2012 00:37 GMT
#6310
EBWOP: wow, fucked that up:

On December 05 2012 09:35 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:25 Promethelax wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:21 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:16 Promethelax wrote:
So I guess Oats, Me and Kita aren't scum based on the actions claimed by SnB and VE.

Why you?

Oats took 250 damage. VE only claims he targeted you.

Also Syllo bussing both Sandro AND SnB? Not gonna happen.


Are you retarded? SnB targeted me too. No idea about VE. I don't think Syllo is scum. I looked at actions and I can't justify it to myself. Also think that the flipped scum generally clear Hapa, this team would be retarded to play this out how they have played.

Yeah, I meant SnB, not VE.

I had you down as town anyway, so it's not a big deal you claiming this. I just don't see the confirmed.

Here's my list, btw (no reasoning and horribly out of date. I'll do the reasoning sometime tomorrow on the scummers and nulls):


Oats
Syllo
Clarity
Keirathi
TC
Prom
Hapa


H1
Iamp
Phagga
GK
Adam



Kita
CJ
austinmcc


risk.nuke


Btw, my main problem with risk is that he is doing the same as last game: when he feels he/his team cannot win anymore he just afks out. A town risk.nuke would be more active and in your face. At the very least, he would be up in my face. He's not. Ergo, he is scum who has given up.

austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 00:40 GMT
#6311
On December 05 2012 09:25 Keirathi wrote:
One thing that is worrying me about drazerk:

In every single game, no matter if they are town/town or scum/town, draz and S&B yell at each other and fight because they HATE each other. There was none of that this game?

Certainly not on par with Aperture, where they were voting each other because each should be able to read the other's mind at all times.


Prom, you asked me about Drazerk/EoT.

I don't think there was NO town support, I was hyperbolic if I phrased it like that. I promise I can read votes. But there were far more claims from people that 600 and 1000 AD were important for them. I want to hit those time periods rather than EoT for the reasons I've stated before: (1) get whatever needs getting; (2) metagaming Grey's setups, assuming staying in one place = less useful for us; (3) metagaming Grey's setups, suspicion that SOME of the players claiming an interaction with a time period are scum.

The more players that need a time period, the more I think we should be headed there. As far as I can tell, we can fail some events even without scum in the party (magus had an all-town party from what I can see). So I'd rather make sure we get things done in those areas, get people their stuff, and then EoT is fine once there's more need to go there than to another era. There's a chance we can't just zip era to era each cycle if we fail an event somehow.


I'm still curious about past risk.nuke scum games. In bureaucracy, he was just absent forever. In this game, he was at least around early and posting more than I'm used to seeing him post. With VE mafia, if risk.nuke was mafia that would mean that most/all the mafia team basically went dark after Toad died - snb posted a little but not much, VE not at all, risk not much. I'd like to BELIEVE that if risk were mafia, he wouldn't do that, and would actually try to ... do something.

I've seen him be quiet/mostly missing/etc. But for the entire game, not partway through. And the way his activity has dropped off, just based on this bit, leads me to believe that he's not mafia.
Fe fi fo fum.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 05 2012 00:41 GMT
#6312
I claim the heal on hapa btw.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 00:41 GMT
#6313
Acro, is that scum risk's mo? He was silent all through bureaucracy even from D1. Can you give me a game to check where he fades out as his team starts losing?

If he's done that, then I'm on board.
Fe fi fo fum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
December 05 2012 00:44 GMT
#6314
On December 05 2012 08:00 Hapahauli wrote:
I mean I'll switch cause I don't give a damn either way, but Acro - weren't you the one saying that you didn't trust Drazerk and wouldn't follow where he wants to go?

He wanted to go to EoT. His reasoning for that was dodgy. If he changes his mind and wants to go somewhere else, I am cool with that. Main reasoning was Prom, anyway, who I have a town read on.

Oh, and if Drazerk's main goal was to not go to 600AD, then I guess I helped him with that, but that just seems like a really weird goal. In that case I believe it's some funky supersticion, rather than malevolent manipulation.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#6315
Kita, I believe you have silver points. Do you know what you can do with them?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
December 05 2012 00:54 GMT
#6316
On December 05 2012 09:41 austinmcc wrote:
Acro, is that scum risk's mo? He was silent all through bureaucracy even from D1. Can you give me a game to check where he fades out as his team starts losing?

If he's done that, then I'm on board.

ACME. Read the postgame. I thought he was fading out because we lynched two of his team mates. He was fading out because he thought scum knew who he was and he thought he had lost even if he managed to keep town off his back.

It's not that he is ever particularly active, but in GoT mafia and DFM2 (games I played with town risk.nuke) he was active and posting ideas fairly consistently: it was clear he was reading the thread.

This game I don't get that impression from him at all past D3 (basically when we caught Toad).
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 00:57 GMT
#6317
On December 05 2012 09:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:41 austinmcc wrote:
Acro, is that scum risk's mo? He was silent all through bureaucracy even from D1. Can you give me a game to check where he fades out as his team starts losing?

If he's done that, then I'm on board.

ACME. Read the postgame. I thought he was fading out because we lynched two of his team mates. He was fading out because he thought scum knew who he was and he thought he had lost even if he managed to keep town off his back.

It's not that he is ever particularly active, but in GoT mafia and DFM2 (games I played with town risk.nuke) he was active and posting ideas fairly consistently: it was clear he was reading the thread.

This game I don't get that impression from him at all past D3 (basically when we caught Toad).

Alright, gonna give that a read.
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 05 2012 01:08 GMT
#6318
On December 05 2012 09:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Kita, I believe you have silver points. Do you know what you can do with them?


Nope.

Anyone wanna sell me something?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
December 05 2012 01:12 GMT
#6319
This flip provides an abundance of information.

Kita can be nearly "confirmed" as not scum by simply asking around and confirming that no one else was playing the guessing game the days he claimed to be + Show Spoiler +
(I mean maybe they opted not to use their ability multiple nights so he could do this but I find that incredibly unlikely and suboptimal...)
.

Cave claimed to take headbutt one night. I'm actually not inclined to buy into this as "confirmation" he isn't scum. Headbutt has the unique ability of hardly doing any damage at all. The other of strong's abilities can only be used when a role name is known, making strong effectively in a position of uselessness if he doesn't have a role to go off of. I could completely picture Cave fake claiming headbutt, or even actually taking 1HP headbutt damage + Show Spoiler +
(on a night where scum didn't have a role name to target)
, as scum to get town cred. It would cost scumteam almost nothing to do...

If VE's afk lurk modkill is any indication, scum is disheartened and have given up on this game. Looking for the last one (assuming 5 scum setup) may be as easy as seeing who else has stopped caring. In this context, I can understand how some have decided risk is a good lynch candidate for today. However, I still have reservations. Did it occur to anyone else how absolutely crazy it would be for a mason-type role to be scum-affiliated? I have yet to see this in a game... That aside, I've already discussed how I feel about a risk lynch. I'm still against it.


I will be reassessing my reads either tonight or tomorrow morning and making my case for who I feel we should lynch.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 05 2012 01:12 GMT
#6320
On December 05 2012 10:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Kita, I believe you have silver points. Do you know what you can do with them?


Nope.

Anyone wanna sell me something?

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona I could sell you....
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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