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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 08:13 GMT
#6141
CJ how is 600AD a death trap?
As far as I know we havent actually lost anyone there.
Also I really dont think it matters ALL that much where we go other than where people get bonuses.
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 04 2012 08:15 GMT
#6142
I assume we'll get different events, or that people will be differently potent in the party depending on where we go. Or the reward is time dependent. I dunno what but I bet we get more than just some individual bonuses.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:15 GMT
#6143
On December 04 2012 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
@Drazerk. Your "logic" already failed. Cycle 4 was at the end of time and was an event. Fail logic is fail. Why end of time?


Picking a party for another time's event isn't really an event in EoT.
Mafia smurf
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:16 GMT
#6144
On December 04 2012 17:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
CJ how is 600AD a death trap?
As far as I know we havent actually lost anyone there.
Also I really dont think it matters ALL that much where we go other than where people get bonuses.


600AD has the largest collection of enemies in the game. Why on earth you people actually want to go there is beyond me its greedy and silly.
Mafia smurf
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 08:17 GMT
#6145
On December 04 2012 17:15 Promethelax wrote:
I assume we'll get different events, or that people will be differently potent in the party depending on where we go. Or the reward is time dependent. I dunno what but I bet we get more than just some individual bonuses.


As far as rewards go something to bring people to life is found at the end of time...wouldn't that be interesting.
Mafia smurf
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 04 2012 08:29 GMT
#6146
On December 04 2012 15:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Speaking of Phagga, I'm currently having some reservations that push me closer back to null on him. While I still find his stuff on CJ and his early-game really scummy, he's had several opportunities to discredit me and push suspicion on me with other players taking the lead, and has taken no part in it. Something to sleep over I suppose.


Hapa, you are aware that GK is pretty much doing this with me in the last few days? I pointed this out here. There was at least one other occasion where he just blatantly ignored that I said beforehand that I would be inactive and attacked me for my inactivty. This behaviour just further convinced me that he is scum.

Regarding VE: Being inactive on the verge of a modkill does not really say anything about his alignement. If it turns out that he is just going to post again this circle to not get modkilled, then he is mainly vigi-stuff. If he still wants to participate in this game properly, I expect him to step up his game drastically.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
December 04 2012 09:49 GMT
#6147
On December 04 2012 17:15 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
@Drazerk. Your "logic" already failed. Cycle 4 was at the end of time and was an event. Fail logic is fail. Why end of time?


Picking a party for another time's event isn't really an event in EoT.

That way you can rationalize everything. We were in EoT and had to pick a party.


On December 04 2012 12:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
<snip>

Regarding spite towards draz:
As you say, its 'weird' not scummy. I see it as spite towards draz for no other reason than that he's draz. That's an argument for vigging him down, not deciding where to epoch ourselves to, and that's why I have a problem with it. We weren't considering the merits of the EoT, we were considering the merits of not giving draz what he wanted. In any case, I have my own selfish reasons for going to 600AD. I'm not particularly expectant, as my role pm doesn't explicitly allude towards anything, but what the hell, right?

K I'm going to bed. 'Nite.

What the hell H1? You are fine with shooting Drazerk in the face, but want to listen to his advice?! Do you think Drazerk is town? If so, why do you want to shoot him in the face? Do you think Drazerk is scum? If so, why do you want to listen to his advice?

Anyway, my main argument is not even that it's Drazerk, it's that it's Drazerk arguing something that doesn't make any ingame sense. While EoT is a safe zone in Chrono Trigger there is no guarantee that it is in the mafia game as well. In fact, Drazerk puts forward that all Greymist can think up for us if we hang in EoT is lynches, which is clearly false given what already happened in the game.

In other words, it is Drazerk making up bullshit arguments... and Drazerk making up bullshit arguments is something to mistrust to the extreme. I can make up similarly speculative arguments:

Random speculation 1: If this game follows Chrono Trigger, then Crono is going to get himself killed in this mission. Next stop is to replace real chrono with fake chrono, for which we need to travel to the future! Alternatively we skip this part and go straight to 600 AD to kill Ozzie.

Random speculation 2: If you try to kill Lavos at any point in the game before you've killed all the other bad guys, he is pretty much unbeatable. We should therefore travel to all the time zones to take out the bad monsters before we can successfully take on Lavos.

The point is: we have NO clue how this game is going to work and what we need to defeat Lavos. Drazerk implying he knows more makes me very suspicious of him and his motives.

Note: I still don't give a crap where we go. I am fairly certain I can fulfill my secondary wincon pretty soon and it is not dependent on the time zone. I just seem to be the only one who has played with Drazerk before and you deserve the warning: sheep Drazerk at your own peril.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 04 2012 10:16 GMT
#6148
I don't care at all about speculation about what kind of events are linked to which time period or whether we have to travel to certain time zones period defeating lavos. We do not have enough evidence to make any conclusions about these things and I do not think it would be fair or make sense to expect us to.

What I do care about is the potential for mafia to get double actions or some other bonus in certain time period and there is some, albeit weak, evidence suggesting that the end of time is not a good place to be. The fact Drazerk, a person of dubious motives, wants to go there is another argument against it.

I think 600 AD or 2300 AD are the best options.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 04 2012 10:19 GMT
#6149
EBWOP: travel to certain time periods before we can defeat lavos*
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
December 04 2012 11:11 GMT
#6150
##lynch cavejohnson
##epoch 1999
Lets get this shit over with yo
Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 04 2012 11:14 GMT
#6151
On December 04 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote:
##lynch cavejohnson
##epoch 1999
Lets get this shit over with yo
Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now


So CaveJohnson is scum? Care to explain why?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 04 2012 12:09 GMT
#6152
On December 04 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote:
##lynch cavejohnson
##epoch 1999
Lets get this shit over with yo
Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now


Can't go there, plus you must be oblivious to the fact of getting lynched to make such a meager post. Pretty sure you just claimed scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 04 2012 14:21 GMT
#6153
On December 04 2012 21:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote:
##lynch cavejohnson
##epoch 1999
Lets get this shit over with yo
Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now


Can't go there, plus you must be oblivious to the fact of getting lynched to make such a meager post. Pretty sure you just claimed scum.

looks like it
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
December 04 2012 14:24 GMT
#6154
Lets get some momentum for something other than EoT. Gooooo 600AD!

##Epoch: Middle Ages
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 14:25 GMT
#6155
oh right, I haven't voted for an Epoch.

600AD is of course fine with me.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#6156
At least get the dreamstone from prehistory if we aren't going to EoT
Mafia smurf
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#6157
On December 04 2012 23:27 CaveJohnson wrote:
At least get the dreamstone from prehistory if we aren't going to EoT

Isn't the dreamstone for restoring Masamune? 1) Dieno is dead, and 2) he had Masamune repaired before he died :o
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 04 2012 14:31 GMT
#6158
I don't like the idea of 600AD its far too risky and is probably where the most scum will have advantages.
Mafia smurf
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
December 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#6159
On December 04 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote:
##lynch cavejohnson
##epoch 1999
Lets get this shit over with yo
Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now

You just claimed scum bro if that's all you gonna do.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
December 04 2012 14:36 GMT
#6160
anywho we should go to the present.

1. because i want to

2. i don't believe in living in the past

------------------------------------------

seriously though i think i can get some upgrades from the wording of my role if im on a successful team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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