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On December 05 2012 01:32 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:29 Keirathi wrote:
How was he twisting your words in that post? He was asking a legit question: do you think there's any way s&b can be town? If so, why? No. But there are third parties out there. There may even be a second scum faction that we know nothing about yet (although it seems unlikely). Going to say that snb is sure scum just seems wrong in that context. We don't know what alignement snb has except that it is very unlikely town.
I understand that S&B isn't 100% confirmed scum. It is very likely that he is scum, but he's not confirmed in a game like this until he flips.
But I'm super confused by your "twisting my words" thing.
Here's what went down:
GK: "s&b is sure scum"
you: "Why is s&b sure scum?"
GK: "Here's my reasons. Do you think he could be town?"
you: "Quit twisting my words and leave me the fuck alone"
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I just dont understand your response.
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Guys leave phagga alone
It's not his fault
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On December 05 2012 01:41 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:32 phagga wrote:On December 05 2012 01:29 Keirathi wrote:
How was he twisting your words in that post? He was asking a legit question: do you think there's any way s&b can be town? If so, why? No. But there are third parties out there. There may even be a second scum faction that we know nothing about yet (although it seems unlikely). Going to say that snb is sure scum just seems wrong in that context. We don't know what alignement snb has except that it is very unlikely town. I understand that S&B isn't 100% confirmed scum. It is very likely that he is scum, but he's not confirmed in a game like this until he flips. But I'm super confused by your "twisting my words" thing. Here's what went down: GK: "s&b is sure scum" you: "Why is s&b sure scum?" GK: "Here's my reasons. Do you think he could be town?"you: "Quit twisting my words and leave me the fuck alone" ..... I just dont understand your response.
That is not what he said. He wrote
Perhaps a better question is: how can you in any way think at this point strong could be town?
Which implies that I think SnB is town. I never said that. I never thought that. At the very moment when syllo wrote that snb visited Djo it was clear that no sane townie would do this.
The point is, he is implying that I said something which I never did. That is what is pissing me off. If he would have asked the question the way you did above, it would have been completely different.
Additionally, my impression is that GK is a player who cautiosly words his posts (when he does not claim to be drunk) and who is aware of the power of a well written post. I am pretty sure he knew exactly what kind of impression his phrasing would leave with the reader.
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On December 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:
Guys leave phagga alone
It's not his fault
You should try that concede ability from Mario again, see if it works here.
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On December 05 2012 01:23 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:20 goodkarma wrote:On December 05 2012 01:10 phagga wrote:On December 05 2012 00:40 goodkarma wrote:So just briefly: On December 03 2012 20:33 phagga wrote:
@risk.nuke I also still would like to know what you think of hapa.
Regarding SnB: Having two damaging abilities, him visiting Djo who is in the party is damning in any case. However, I am also confident in my scum read on Goodkarma, so I am happy to lynch either of them. For now, my vote stays on GK. Your vote post is pretty funny. Because it basically says, "I'd rather lynch my favorite scum read over a sure scum." The scum motivation here is apparent: trying to set up a counterwagon to prevent the snb lynch. Btw, from where do you know that SnB is sure scum? All I know is that his behaviour was extremely anti-town, hence the lynch. But town does not know his alignement yet. SnB was caught in a lie when syllo found he targeted Djo, he made a very implausible story about being bussed, and then posted this: On December 04 2012 20:11 strongandbig wrote:
##lynch cavejohnson
##epoch 1999
Lets get this shit over with yo
Both of these things are gonna happen eventually might as well do them now So yeah, strongandbig is scum. Perhaps a better question is: how can you in any way think at this point strong could be town? There we go again. I am so sick of this. you always turning around my words to create meanings that were not there. Where is the town motivation in that? In case you have not noticed yet, there are other alignements besides town and scum. Now leave me the fuck alone.
What the hell is this. I know you two are having a happy little tunnelfest at each other, but how can you think SnB is anything other than scum? If he were a survivor caught in this kind of a bind, he would be claiming and yelling at the top of his lungs not to lynch him.
Instead he as much as admitted to being scum by posting a joke vote (more on that when SnB actually flips) and contributing as little as possible to the thread.
He is behaving as scum caught with his hands in the cookie jar, which is exactly what he is.
Sure, there is nothing that conclusively links him to the scumteam so far, allowing him to be an SK or a member of a second scumteam, but there is no doubt in my mind that he is a non-town-aligned baddy.
I am unclear on why you are making excuses for him. The easiest way to make sense of this is if you are scum and SnB is not on your scumteam. More information will be had after the flip.
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On December 05 2012 01:32 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:29 Keirathi wrote:
How was he twisting your words in that post? He was asking a legit question: do you think there's any way s&b can be town? If so, why? No. But there are third parties out there. There may even be a second scum faction that we know nothing about yet (although it seems unlikely). Going to say that snb is sure scum just seems wrong in that context. We don't know what alignement snb has except that it is very unlikely town.
It is strange you bring this up with regards to SnB, yet never mentioned anything like it with Toad. Why were you sure Toad was scum, yet are now bringing up 3P and second scumteams that we have NO evidence of (note, I made the previous post prematurely and hadn't read the rest of the discussion yet).
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On December 05 2012 02:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:32 phagga wrote:On December 05 2012 01:29 Keirathi wrote:
How was he twisting your words in that post? He was asking a legit question: do you think there's any way s&b can be town? If so, why? No. But there are third parties out there. There may even be a second scum faction that we know nothing about yet (although it seems unlikely). Going to say that snb is sure scum just seems wrong in that context. We don't know what alignement snb has except that it is very unlikely town. It is strange you bring this up with regards to SnB, yet never mentioned anything like it with Toad. Why were you sure Toad was scum, yet are now bringing up 3P and second scumteams that we have NO evidence of (note, I made the previous post prematurely and hadn't read the rest of the discussion yet).
Don't be dumb Acro.
Toad had a parity check that said he was the same alignment as sandro, and your role check had him listed as red.
Maybe parity checks work the same across scum/3p/potential scum team, but it's unlikely. He was directly linked to sandro.
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On December 05 2012 02:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:32 phagga wrote:On December 05 2012 01:29 Keirathi wrote:
How was he twisting your words in that post? He was asking a legit question: do you think there's any way s&b can be town? If so, why? No. But there are third parties out there. There may even be a second scum faction that we know nothing about yet (although it seems unlikely). Going to say that snb is sure scum just seems wrong in that context. We don't know what alignement snb has except that it is very unlikely town. It is strange you bring this up with regards to SnB, yet never mentioned anything like it with Toad. Why were you sure Toad was scum, yet are now bringing up 3P and second scumteams that we have NO evidence of (note, I made the previous post prematurely and hadn't read the rest of the discussion yet).
Seriously?
On November 25 2012 10:32 TheChronicler wrote:
200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different.
Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.
Gee, if Sand flipped scum, and Toads was the same alignement, what alignement does Toads have?
Also, you have no idea how many scum are in this game. Or how many third parties. We are just guessing. We do not have night flips that might give us any indication on what the numbers and factions are in this game. All we know so far is that we have town and mafia and one claimed 3rd party. Everything else is in the dark.
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EBWOP: Oh right, I even forgot about your parity check on him.
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There have barely been any damage claims other than me and oats taking damage from the mission. Makes me think scum is stacking to kill someone this cycle. Protective roles should keep this in mind
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Or we protectives did a great job last time around. We'll keep you guys safe though, no worries.
I see SnB claimed scum in the thread. So ah, I guess I'll vote SnB. Also I still like the end of time, I don't get bonuses (that I know about) in antiquity.
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I was under the impression roleblocks did not block scum factional damage, but fair enough.
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On December 05 2012 04:05 Promethelax wrote:
Or we protectives did a great job last time around. We'll keep you guys safe though, no worries.
I see SnB claimed scum in the thread. So ah, I guess I'll vote SnB. Also I still like the end of time, I don't get bonuses (that I know about) in antiquity.
You blocked me.
Last cycle was terrible for protection
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On December 05 2012 03:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
There have barely been any damage claims other than me and oats taking damage from the mission. Makes me think scum is stacking to kill someone this cycle. Protective roles should keep this in mind
It's possible the damage to you came from wrong choices in the fiendlord's keep. However, it is also possible scum targeted you two (and Djodref). We don't have enough information to say whether scum is saving KP or what is going on. Also, Syllo roleblocked 250 damage from SnB.
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On December 05 2012 04:16 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 04:05 Promethelax wrote:
Or we protectives did a great job last time around. We'll keep you guys safe though, no worries.
I see SnB claimed scum in the thread. So ah, I guess I'll vote SnB. Also I still like the end of time, I don't get bonuses (that I know about) in antiquity. You blocked me. Last cycle was terrible for protection
Scum may also be smart enough to not claim their RBs anymore, I am not the only prot role. Syllo RB'd 250 damage. we did alright.
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EBWOP: Hmm, we have to vote for an epoch, too? Looking through it doesn't look like there's a consensus anywhere. I'll vote for the time period I'm from. AD1000
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On December 05 2012 04:37 TheChronicler wrote:
EBWOP: Hmm, we have to vote for an epoch, too? Looking through it doesn't look like there's a consensus anywhere. I'll vote for the time period I'm from. AD1000
Do you get a bonus there?
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So, since we are set on lynching SnB do we believe that VE is scum too (I do). If VE just comes in to vote/post once per cycle he is lurking way too much. I don't like his attitude, as I explained earlier, and I believe that he is scum motivated.
VE: if by some chance you are town it is time for you to do anything. First: claim all of your actions up til this point and second give three scum reads and the reasons for them, I don't need a huge case on each one but I do need some reasoning. Go! Do as I say.
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On December 05 2012 04:40 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 04:37 TheChronicler wrote:
EBWOP: Hmm, we have to vote for an epoch, too? Looking through it doesn't look like there's a consensus anywhere. I'll vote for the time period I'm from. AD1000 Do you get a bonus there?
Nope
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