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On November 22 2012 23:38 Toadesstern wrote:
A finally TL is working for me again, back to what I was saying earlier in the morning when I wasn't able to open the votingthread or this thread anymore.
I think we should be voting Kita.
I love voting Kita.
##vote Kita
If I understood correctly, you base your vote on nothing other than the fact two players already have a few votes and this third person does not. Is this correct?
I don't see anything in your filter that indicates you care about alignments or figuring things out, besides your initial post in which you randomly called someone mafia.
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Okay acro, if you are town you are compelled to vote for me now for being inside your mind
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I can't explain it better than I have. It doesn't feel like he cares about figuring things out and there is no sense of urgency despite him being one of the most likely people to be elected. He has made no attempts at figuring out who mafia is and it seems to me he is hiding behind the fact he doesn't have to. There is being lazy and then there is just not caring. My other reasons rely on my knowledge of how he thinks and some of the things he has said feel off; can't elaborate more on that.
Yes, I might gain more votes by making my reads public. I would also gain more reads by pretending to be completely confident in my reads; I'm not. I have not finalized my team yet (right now I've 2 whom I'm likely to take and a few possibilities for the third) and may not finalize it until the end. An honest assessment as to why I'm not going to is a combination of considering it optimal play (if I get the votes), being lazy and because sometimes my town reads rely on things other players may find flimsy or the reasons are otherwise difficult to explain (tone, whether the person feels earnest).
If I were mafia, there would be absolutely no reason not to make the list of people I intend to pick public.
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On November 23 2012 00:34 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:19 Mementoss wrote:
Vote Count
Kitaman27 (4): Kitaman27, Promethelax,phagga, Toadesstern
Goodkarma (2): djodref, goodkarma
Sandroba (4): risk.nuke, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, kushm4sta
Dienosore (1): Dienosore
Syllogism (5): Oatsmaster, Marvellosity, Clarity_nl, iamperfection, TheChronicler
Players who have yet to vote (9): CaveJohnson, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, strongandbig, BioSC, Keirathi, syllogism, Adam4167, sandroba
Remember that voting is mandatory.
All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) I forgot to unvote. ##unvote: Sandroba
##Vote: goodkarma
You say that you do not trust me. Does that mean you don't think that I'm town or just that I'm less likely to pick a good team than goodkarma. Why did you trust sandroba over me?
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There has been no sudden flip and insight has been provided. You keep posting without actually reading the whole thread or just skimming some parts.
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I don't see why you would know your success modifier and why do you think 4 is low? I assume that is a third party claim, what do you claim your win con to be?
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On November 23 2012 02:58 Dienosore wrote:
If CaveJohnson is telling the truth (and it feels like he is), then I'm going to have to reevaluate my relationship map. He was catching a lot of flak from a lot of people, so now I'm going to reverse the pipes and see what comes up.
It's no surprise he doesn't like marv, but I didn't predict him having any opinion on Djo. My only link between Cave and Djo was a stretch that included a pitstop through possible scum Acro and Kitaman.
It's extremely difficult to believe that you aren't being disingenuous with these posts. If you are town, please make some attempt at taking the game seriously.
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I confirmed that nothing in the OP is a lie, including this line
"Each character in the game is assigned a hidden number value"
Drazerk, or whoever you are, if you are somehow town I'm pretty certain that I'm never joining a game with you again.
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I guess if Sandroba is mafia, what I said about marvel's play not making strategical sense from mafia point of view is moot. In addition, he doesn't seem worried about dying in the near future, considering his hp related remark and him already announcing that he may run for an election in the future. Regardless, it's not relevant now and I am not going to go through his filter to determine whether it makes sense content-wise. That's not important right now though and a content based evaluation has to be made when it is.
I've a team ready. Not entirely satisfied with it as usually figuring out 3 virtually certain townies is easier; perhaps it's the format or the players complicating things or me just not being familiar with a lot of people here. Around 4 hours until deadline, is this correct?
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The only way me providing information regarding my picks gives you more information is if mafia decides to fight harder against my election due to my team being all town. I don't find it particularly likely that mafia would have behaved any differently today, unless perhaps if I had revealed my team much earlier. Revealing the team right now or even a few hours ago would have achieved nothing as I've been pretty much inevitable for longer than that. The reasons against disclosing the team, however, still stand.
You don't need more information about me than can be found by reading my posts. I'm town and whether town reached the correct conclusion based on blind faith or deduction isn't relevant.
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I don't believe you are entirely confident with your team either. I'm capable of honest self assessment and I don't see why you are attempting to use me being transparent about my thoughts in an attempt to discredit me. It doesn't particularly make sense for mafia to attack me at this stage though.
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On November 23 2012 04:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 04:08 syllogism wrote:
I guess if Sandroba is mafia, what I said about marvel's play not making strategical sense from mafia point of view is moot. In addition, he doesn't seem worried about dying in the near future, considering his hp related remark and him already announcing that he may run for an election in the future. Regardless, it's not relevant now and I am not going to go through his filter to determine whether it makes sense content-wise. That's not important right now though and a content based evaluation has to be made when it is.
I've a team ready. Not entirely satisfied with it as usually figuring out 3 virtually certain townies is easier; perhaps it's the format or the players complicating things or me just not being familiar with a lot of people here. Around 4 hours until deadline, is this correct? I find this quite curious given you corrected drazerk on something in the op and apparently asked the host about it. Why not just check the deadline yourself?
I don't understand your point here, how is something like that alignment indicative at all?
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On November 23 2012 05:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 05:01 syllogism wrote:On November 23 2012 04:45 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 04:08 syllogism wrote:
I guess if Sandroba is mafia, what I said about marvel's play not making strategical sense from mafia point of view is moot. In addition, he doesn't seem worried about dying in the near future, considering his hp related remark and him already announcing that he may run for an election in the future. Regardless, it's not relevant now and I am not going to go through his filter to determine whether it makes sense content-wise. That's not important right now though and a content based evaluation has to be made when it is.
I've a team ready. Not entirely satisfied with it as usually figuring out 3 virtually certain townies is easier; perhaps it's the format or the players complicating things or me just not being familiar with a lot of people here. Around 4 hours until deadline, is this correct? I find this quite curious given you corrected drazerk on something in the op and apparently asked the host about it. Why not just check the deadline yourself? I don't understand your point here, how is something like that alignment indicative at all? Because a conversational question you could easily find yourself seems somewhat out of character. Do I really have to connect the dots on why that could be alignment indicative?
I was reasonably sure and was writing a post. Feel free to interpret it in any way you like, but it is not indicative of anything.
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Phew, that was pretty stressful
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I took 50 damage.
I'm going back to bed, but very briefly him suggesting that his modifier is likely low was something that probably makes people less likely pick him. He also pointed out the fact that if parties are announced in public, mafia has easier time choosing who to support and that was a pretty towny observation and something that occurred to me as well. In addition he wasn't afraid of asking me and sandro whether we thought he was suspicious.
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I suppose I can mention that I received a useful gift tonight, in case someone claims something later and I'm not around to confirm. Also I recommend listening to chrono trigger soundtrack while reading the thread.
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I agree with what marvel said about thechronicler.
As for goodkarma, I don't like how he tied me with sandroba and used that as an excuse not to consider me
Yet, at this point I would go so far as to say that sandroba has put so much faith into syllo that a vote for either is semi-interchangable. Between the two of them, I see one party leader ticket.
He also seemed to suggest that my post filter was a sea of one-liners and that made it incredibly challenging to read or something
While many here give Sandroba/Syllo respect for being a "vet," it's incredibly hard for me to sort through a sea of one-liners and go, "That guy is definitely town..." Actually, insert Marv's name here too as he's guiltiest of this...
He concluded by claiming he wouldn't vote for me until I provided more information
what I am certain of is that there's not a snowflake's prayer in hell I'm voting for either sandroba or syllo (or should I say sandollo?) until they provide more information on who they're bringing and why
But then decided to end his candidacy, because it was important to consolidate on me or something, although there were pretty much no other viable candidates and almost 8 hours of time left
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I'll give my thoughts as to who should be our lynch tomorrow. Taking a break today and not just because I'm lazy and there is no night cycle.
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On November 24 2012 04:19 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 04:09 syllogism wrote:
I'll give my thoughts as to who should be our lynch tomorrow. Taking a break today and not just because I'm lazy and there is no night cycle. Considering I have to submit a lynch guess tonight or else I receive a huge chunk of damage, it really would be nice if you would be able to take tomorrow off instead  Also, I've been pulled into watching an awful family movie. Looks like I'll be posting in a couple hours XD
That's pretty annoying. When do you have to send the answer in? It doesn't sound like a mafia ability to me
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