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TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
December 02 2012 22:06 GMT
#5741
Holy shit I hadn't voted. That was close.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 02 2012 22:08 GMT
#5742
On December 03 2012 07:06 TheChronicler wrote:
Holy shit I hadn't voted. That was close.


Posting this cycle would be kinda nice too.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
December 02 2012 22:12 GMT
#5743
On December 03 2012 07:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 07:06 TheChronicler wrote:
Holy shit I hadn't voted. That was close.


Posting this cycle would be kinda nice too.


Shhhh thats how you scare them away
Mafia smurf
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
December 02 2012 22:12 GMT
#5744
What's to post about? I didn't get rolled back.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:14 GMT
#5745
On December 03 2012 07:12 TheChronicler wrote:
What's to post about? I didn't get rolled back.


You made a pretty bad argument for it and the day after (the day I would have rolled you back) you never showed up.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
December 02 2012 22:15 GMT
#5746
Didn't want to post. It's whatever. I didn't want to get all my gold back for more parity checks. Oh wait.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:17 GMT
#5747
You can tell me you didn't want to post at all.
You can tell me you wanted to get rolled back.

You can't tell me both, that's just absurd.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
December 02 2012 22:17 GMT
#5748
Oh wait. = Implied sarcasm. I'm pretty certain I said I had a good reason to get rolled back.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#5749
On November 30 2012 03:07 TheChronicler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 30 2012 02:59 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 30 2012 02:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay, TC. You mentioned you used your 1 shot last cycle but it didn't do anything because you weren't on the party.
Is there any way you can tell us what your 1-shot is? Also note that the heal you received will not have happened, you will take damage equal to the heal.

Wait the rollback wouldn't act as a protection?


The rollback is a rollback. The way you were 48 hours ago (1 full cycle). So the hp you had, the abilities you had, the items etc you had. So any heal that happened in the last 48 hours will be reversed.

I think it's worth it.


Ya, real convincing.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 02 2012 22:23 GMT
#5750
Risen: if you had claimed your 1 shot ability you probably would have been rolled back. Your play was sub optimal. Don't start hating town for that.

SnB: why you have to hurt me?

Ozzie: B
Magnus: A

I'm sheeping people who know CT
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18117 Posts
December 02 2012 22:28 GMT
#5751
On December 03 2012 06:01 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:15 Acrofales wrote:
On December 03 2012 03:39 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, so here's an observation. Last event, we grabbed for the sword. There was no phase 2 of the Slash fight. So we know that these events don't play out 1:1 with the analogous bits of the game. We both chose something you CAN'T do in game, and got a result that CAN'T HAPPEN in game.

I still like using the game to inform our choices in the events, but we need to be careful not to think we KNOW that this will work out the same as the game.



As to the path, would rather avoid traps. Something like "traps in the game --> xp and items" is one of the things i DON'T think will carry over. This mafia game is already incredibly complex, but that seems like going a little too far with it. So I'd rather take the path that looks like it might not hit traps, B.

Magus also probably isn't 1:1 with his game version. We're basically starting on the second phase of the fight, after his barrier is down. From what I remember, healing in the fight draws things out and you probably eat a bunch of dark matters while trying to stay ahead of them with heals. But the limits of this game mean Grey (probably?) can't draw the magus fight out for a bunch of 24 hour periods, and so healing/not dying sounds better to me than trying to end the fight quickly by attacking with everything. So even though I'd probably go with B in the game itself, A sounds like a better deal within the confines of mafia.


I'm used to better from you. Your analysis in LVI impressed me enough that I pushed the scumteam to shoot you over some more renowned players. Your posts so far have been speculation about the events, which while important, are basically a distraction from the game of Mafia. This post in particular is using a lot of words to rehash what has been said already.

Despite this, I realize replacing into this game must be hard. Reading 180 pages of posts is tough, but you come in with some fresh views. All I want from you at the moment is that you share some of these thoughts. Zbo was lurking badly after some rather dubious actions in the early game.

You got anything other than setup speculation? Lets hear from you, a fresh perspective: what do you think of Hapa, SnB, GK, risk and anybody who struck you as looking like scum. What is your opinion of CJ and his inconsistent claims? Come out of the shadows and share your ideas!
I overestimated my ability to read through 260 pages of mafia, let alone 260 pages in a game that was heavily themed and so there's all sorts of other stuff going on.

Right now I'm playing this like I did PTP3. I'm a warm body; I plan on mainly doing setup speculation when needed, just because I have no idea what's gone on before. It worked out alright there as the game progressing, but I guess I was confirmed that game so I wasn't under any suspicion.

SnB has popped up a bunch recently; I'll look back through his past stuff. My gut read right now is that he's scum, but I want to see if there's anything beyond the roleclaim to go off of. Can you narrow down the other folks to one or two that you're particularly interested in? I know CJ is drazerk(yes?), but I haven't really seen much from non-SnBs in that group and would need to hit a filter or two for thoughts.

Yup, CJ is Drazerk.
GK would be good to have your opinion on. He has been rather actively defending himself and I fear everybody here is getting some confirmation bias one way or the other.
Hapa for a similar reason.

That should be a decent start
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
December 02 2012 22:29 GMT
#5752
Claim and get shot, or say it's good. Either way you have to trust me on it. One way gets me shot, one doesn't. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18117 Posts
December 02 2012 22:31 GMT
#5753
On December 03 2012 06:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 06:49 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Hey guyses! I just hit a bunch of you for 250 damage a pop, but I swear I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. 250 damage to name claimers.. oh, and it has a side effect which is:

1. Useless and
2. Unverifiable.

Trolololol.

The only question that remains in my mind is why would SnB be dumb enough to claim this and verify that it really is an utterly destructive ability for town? In fact, if there is one person in this game who should know better, it is a scum SnB: he was scum in SSM, the only game where I have seen an early mass claim completely wipe scum from the face of the game, due to a combination of Sandroba's genius and scum completely bolloxing up their fakeclaims.

so the conclusion is SnB is town or retarded scum?

Well, I see absolutely NO reason for town to have this ability in the first place. Scum trueclaiming is not going to happen, so all it serves is to shoot fellow townies. Raising max HP seems so utterly useless (unless we suddenly get to use a shelter/inn sometime in the game, which seems horribly unlikely) that I guess I mixed in a bit of postgame discussion there. SnB is scum for claiming an ability that has no town purpose at all.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:32 GMT
#5754
On December 03 2012 07:29 TheChronicler wrote:
Claim and get shot, or say it's good. Either way you have to trust me on it. One way gets me shot, one doesn't. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Yeah because me rolling you back won't get you shot either way. Did you even listen when I said I have to announce when I use it?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:33 GMT
#5755
I'm done talking to you TC, go be bitter and whiny somewhere else.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
December 02 2012 22:33 GMT
#5756
How about you announce it right before deadline? Nah, that would be smart.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:35 GMT
#5757
On December 03 2012 07:33 TheChronicler wrote:
How about you announce it right before deadline? Nah, that would be smart.


Yeah, only you'd have to send in your night action after I roll you back AND YOU WERENT ANYWHERE TO BE FUCKING FOUND
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 02 2012 22:37 GMT
#5758
On December 03 2012 07:31 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 06:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
On December 03 2012 06:49 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Hey guyses! I just hit a bunch of you for 250 damage a pop, but I swear I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. 250 damage to name claimers.. oh, and it has a side effect which is:

1. Useless and
2. Unverifiable.

Trolololol.

The only question that remains in my mind is why would SnB be dumb enough to claim this and verify that it really is an utterly destructive ability for town? In fact, if there is one person in this game who should know better, it is a scum SnB: he was scum in SSM, the only game where I have seen an early mass claim completely wipe scum from the face of the game, due to a combination of Sandroba's genius and scum completely bolloxing up their fakeclaims.

so the conclusion is SnB is town or retarded scum?

Well, I see absolutely NO reason for town to have this ability in the first place. Scum trueclaiming is not going to happen, so all it serves is to shoot fellow townies. Raising max HP seems so utterly useless (unless we suddenly get to use a shelter/inn sometime in the game, which seems horribly unlikely) that I guess I mixed in a bit of postgame discussion there. SnB is scum for claiming an ability that has no town purpose at all.

You're discounting Greymist being Greymist.

I almost EXPECT him to have some roles/abilities that don't follow the normal role/alignment patterns just to mess with everyone and discourage this sort of stuff.

The scumminess is the questions he SHOULD have had and asked if this were his real ability. You don't not check whether your damage can kill someone.
Fe fi fo fum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18117 Posts
December 02 2012 22:37 GMT
#5759
Why are you two discussing something that is now entirely irrelevant, because the rollback is for 1 day, not two. TC did not get rolled back, end of story. In postgame you two can bitch at each other over it.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 02 2012 22:40 GMT
#5760
There is no discussion, there is only TC showing up after afking for 2-3 days and whining about how he stopped trying because he didn't get his toy firetruck for christmas. It pisses me off and I had to get it out of my system, which I now have.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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