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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:45 Acrofales wrote: No. You're either lying about the way your ability works, or not thinking straight. If you targeted Dieno and your protection is the ability that got randomly moved, then the rest of the game you would be protecting someone other than Dieno. On D4 and D5 the daypost said someone protected Dieno. Either that someone isn't you (seems unlikely) or your ability hit Dieno and stuck there. Sorry, I was talking about S&B ability, not mine. I was persuaded that my ability went trough and stuck on Dieno because I thought he was saved during the second cycle. I thought that the mafia KP missing had been sent on Dieno. In fact, I'm pretty sure now that the mafia targeted syllo and that he was nicely jailed by Keir. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
Dieno's claims: 445 damage N1 0 damage N2 (doesn't matter why) 0 damage N3 (doesn't matter why) and healed for an unknown amount. 475 damage N4 I see no reason to doubt these claims given that Dieno flipped town. On neither D3 or D4 dayposts did we get the message that Dieno had been mysteriously protected. We only got that on D5. Dieno had 750 HP. 750 - 445 - 475 = -170 AKA dead (unless the heal was for more than 170, in which case we have multiple discrepancies and things start to get weird again). In this situation it makes sense for the daypost to say Dieno was protected from death on N4, but not before According to SnB's claim, he didn't actually do 250 damage, but instead healed for 50. That leaves: 750 - 145 - 475 = 130 (plus whatever he was healed for). In this situation it makes no sense for the daypost to say Dieno was protected from death on N4, but not before All I was using your claim for was to make sure that N4 was not the first time this ability could kick in. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:51 syllogism wrote: So it doesn't say that you are Alfador? No, it's just saying that I'm Janus's Cat and it explains my ability. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:52 Djodref wrote: Sorry, I was talking about S&B ability, not mine. I was persuaded that my ability went trough and stuck on Dieno because I thought he was saved during the second cycle. I thought that the mafia KP missing had been sent on Dieno. In fact, I'm pretty sure now that the mafia targeted syllo and that he was nicely jailed by Keir. Ahhh, okay. However, nobody claimed the damage, meaning it either hit scum or SnB is lying. The only people I can realistically see Dieno targeting on D1 are Djodreff and GK. A big big maybe on CaveJohnson. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I pushed him to be in the party because I was sure he was going to survive if I survived myself. That's why I was requiring for protection so much and I thought I would get this protection if I campaigned a lot for being in the party myslef. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Why not Sandro? I targeted him d1 Did you look at Dieno's filter? He never mentions Sandro being scum. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Why not Sandro? I targeted him d1 No, GK and me were Dieno's topscumreads at that time, Acro is right. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 30 2012 00:15 Djodref wrote: I think that we should prioritize people who need to be in the party for ability related stuff or because they have bad ass role like robo or frog with a possible high hidden value. I believe that you are town but I would prefer you to remain non "confirmed" town if you don't mind. I think that the protection type roles like you and me shouldn't try to get under the spotlight too much. I would vote a party with you as a member though... Why did neither of these two things apply to you Dienosore? You are just a cat with presumably a low hidden modifier and you are also an extremely powerful protective role. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 02 2012 23:29 syllogism wrote: Why did neither of these two things apply to you Dienosore? You are just a cat with presumably a low hidden modifier and you are also an extremely powerful protective role. They applied to me. But I wanted Dieno to be in the party because I knew he was going to survive the night. I wanted to make sure that all the party members chosen by Clarity would be alive. I think it was better to officialy state that Dieno was protected again by me. But, by doing this, I was afraid that the mafia would target me. Because it would have been easier for them to see that my protection was extremely powerful. And me dead would have meant Dieno dead. I didn't want to say that I required protection too much so I've decided to show myself as very likely to be a party member, so a good target to protect. So, at that time, I've decided to out myself even more. To ensure that I would not die and also to prevent the other protective roles from taking care of Dieno... Between the post you quoted and the time when I decided to push Dieno and me in the party, I've changed my mind because I thought it was very important to make sure that the party member chosen would be alive for today. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 02 2012 23:24 syllogism wrote: Djodref you said that you "also suspect that I could get an ability if [you] get the chance to have a seat on the party". Why did you suspect that? I honestly thought that something could happen if I was in the same party as my master. Also I thought that my era was coming soon... But it was also to push people into protecting me, without saying it out loud. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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syllogism
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
You state here you have no time to play, yet you don't /out from Paranoia. You then show more activity in 2 days of Paranoia Mafia than 10 days here. Why do you not want to play with us? Are you scum, happy to lurk while the townies accuse each other? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On December 02 2012 23:50 syllogism wrote: Your PM allegedly doesn't even say what your era is and presumably also nothing about you getting more abilities in that era. Your answers are highly unsatisfactory, but I guess we will see. Pretty convenient that Dieno ended up dying and mafia didn't even feel like shooting at anyone on the party. Oh yeah, because as a mafia player, I totally knew that Dieno was going to take damage during daytime. My saves on Dieno have not been counterclaimed. Please have a look at the construction of the sentence: On December 01 2012 08:59 GreYMisT wrote: *snip* Dienosore is Protected by a Mysterious Player, and was prevented from dying *snip* The tense of this sentence implies that the protection is not temporary, in opposition to the fact that he had been prevented from dying (this event happened twice). I feel already terrible about what happened because I have been the one pushing for it so much. Dieno is dead partly by fault and I have wasted my ability (my only one-time per game ability). And I'm afraid all this is going to backfire if we don't complete the event in a successful manner. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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