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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
December 01 2012 01:12 GMT
#5381
djo your at full health as well so if you think you should attack first for some reason speak up
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 01 2012 01:19 GMT
#5382
On December 01 2012 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
djo your at full health as well so if you think you should attack first for some reason speak up


I could attack first because I don't have anymore ability. So I'm not afraid of them being disabled.
I also think that I'm at full health. The only reason I could think for not sending me first is that my attack is more likely to be weak, given my role.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#5383
On December 01 2012 10:19 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
djo your at full health as well so if you think you should attack first for some reason speak up


I could attack first because I don't have anymore ability. So I'm not afraid of them being disabled.
I also think that I'm at full health. The only reason I could think for not sending me first is that my attack is more likely to be weak, given my role.


Flavor wise I am probably weaker when it comes to physical attacks.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:21 GMT
#5384
On December 01 2012 09:51 Keirathi wrote:
I like Acro's idea for taking the sword rather than using Tech Attack. We may need the MP during the second part of the fight.

Don't really have an idea for what would be best for Flea though.

While I really like taking credit for this, it wasn't me.

What we need to ask ourselves is: does scum have knowledge about these fights that we don't? I can't imagine how scum is supposed to "win" here, if they don't have some extra information and convince town to take the wrong choice.

In the game, there is no option to take the sword. However, it feels somehow right: if we can do that, then we avoid the hardest part of the Flash fight and get an awesome sword to use against him. On the other hand, it could be a trick option.

Regarding Flea: I like sending Dienosore at him. It's unlikely he'll live much longer in any case, sitting at 1 HP does not seem like a recipe for longevity this game. Dienosore: are there any awesome abilities you were planning on using that mean we should not send you in to suicide?

I seem to recall beating the crap out of Flea with slurp slashes and cleaves. I didn't even have a triple tech yet. Some kind of triple tech might do lots of damage and doesn't risk sending Dieno with his 1 HP.

Just before Flea there's a savepoint. I vote option F: use shelter, then let Frogger attack Flea.



Random setup speculation: if we had succeeded both events, we might have gotten the dreamstone and repaired Masamune, making this fight easier?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#5385
We have Masamune.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 01 2012 01:23 GMT
#5386
@Acro

How do you know that Dieno has 1HP ?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:25 GMT
#5387
On December 01 2012 10:23 Djodref wrote:
@Acro

How do you know that Dieno has 1HP ?

I don't. I just assumed. He has been saved from death twice now. Actually, if that is following game rules it's 50 HP, not 1.

Also, I just read Frogger has Masamune. That means we should probably save him for the second part of the day, in which I presume we battle Magus.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 01 2012 01:25 GMT
#5388
I took 75 damage. Strange. I can only assume it was a scum shot as a town shot would be pretty stupid.

I do not know the lore well, so I go with what GK digged up from Gamefaq:

##Slash: C
##Flea: C


Going off into the weekend, my activity will be low for the next 48 hours.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 01 2012 01:27 GMT
#5389
On December 01 2012 10:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:19 Djodref wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
djo your at full health as well so if you think you should attack first for some reason speak up


I could attack first because I don't have anymore ability. So I'm not afraid of them being disabled.
I also think that I'm at full health. The only reason I could think for not sending me first is that my attack is more likely to be weak, given my role.


Flavor wise I am probably weaker when it comes to physical attacks.


Ok, we'll save this for the end game then
But I bet I'm weaker than you ^^
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:28 GMT
#5390
Oatsmaster should just rocket punch him in the face, imho
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:30 GMT
#5391
##Slash A
##Flea E


Lets have some daring doing. If we have the option to grab the sword, it should be the best option. And rocket punching Flea in the face and saving Masamune for another day sounds pretty good to me.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 01 2012 01:33 GMT
#5392
On December 01 2012 10:27 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:19 Djodref wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:12 iamperfection wrote:
djo your at full health as well so if you think you should attack first for some reason speak up


I could attack first because I don't have anymore ability. So I'm not afraid of them being disabled.
I also think that I'm at full health. The only reason I could think for not sending me first is that my attack is more likely to be weak, given my role.


Flavor wise I am probably weaker when it comes to physical attacks.


Ok, we'll save this for the end game then
But I bet I'm weaker than you ^^


You're on
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:34 GMT
#5393
@SnB
I know we have other stuff on our mind right now, but your defense of Phagga is weird. CJ didn't claim Drazerk after the vote and when Phagga changed his mind. He claimed well before. That was NOT the reason for Phagga to change his mind.

That said, there were 2 entire cycles (3 if you count when Phagga placed his vote, rather than when he took it off to sheep onto Sandro) between Phagga having a scum read on Drazerk, and Phagga stating his HP to enable Drazerk's ability. That is 96 hours and on estimate 100 pages of thread. Seems like enough time for Phagga to have changed his mind.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 01 2012 01:35 GMT
#5394
I should definitely attack here. Besides Robo, I'm the only offensive character in the squad right now. I also am pretty sure I cannot die. AND I HAVE MASAMUNE. Let me use it at least once, I implore you all.

As for Slash, I said C earlier, but maybe we should consider saving our mp for a more dire situation. Marv's KISS advice sounds good here for option A. If he has no sword, then how can he hurt us? Unless of course it's a trap. Then option B fuck it starts to sound good, but then he'd most likely get the sword next turn and our battle becomes harder.

Right now I'm leaning towards A, but I wont change my vote just yet. I'll wait to see what y'all think.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 01 2012 01:36 GMT
#5395
I dont mind attacking flea, I still have a shitton of hp but I wouldnt mind some heals and my abilities arnt all that awesome
No gg, No skill.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 01 2012 01:37 GMT
#5396
What gives you the impression that you cannot die?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:39 GMT
#5397
On December 01 2012 10:35 Dienosore wrote:
I should definitely attack here. Besides Robo, I'm the only offensive character in the squad right now. I also am pretty sure I cannot die. AND I HAVE MASAMUNE. Let me use it at least once, I implore you all.

As for Slash, I said C earlier, but maybe we should consider saving our mp for a more dire situation. Marv's KISS advice sounds good here for option A. If he has no sword, then how can he hurt us? Unless of course it's a trap. Then option B fuck it starts to sound good, but then he'd most likely get the sword next turn and our battle becomes harder.

Right now I'm leaning towards A, but I wont change my vote just yet. I'll wait to see what y'all think.

Seeing as we're in Magus' castle and this is the first "event", we have the 2nd 24 hours of the cycle to go still in which we probably have to fight Ozzie and Magus.

Given that Masamune is absolutely amazing against Magus, we definitely need you around. What makes you think you can't die, btw?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:40 GMT
#5398
Oh, we might skip Ozzie. That fight is hardly a fight in any case.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 01 2012 01:40 GMT
#5399
I feel so grossly unequipped to give any advice on this situation, having never played the game.

I have no outstanding time commitments, how long would it take me to finish, assuming I started right now?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18115 Posts
December 01 2012 01:44 GMT
#5400
Next question: what in the blazes was that countdown? Lavos didn't crash despite us being in prehistory. That event is still in the "future" in the game. So what the hell did we count down to?
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