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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#681
Sandroba why do you think Clarity "smells funny"?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 15:27 GMT
#713
Can someone link me a game where kush is mafia, thanks
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 15:37 GMT
#728
On November 22 2012 00:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Holy fuck this thread is so long and 99% of it is about who are we voting leader, which I really don't care about.
Not much thought put into this decision but
##vote sandroba
Good town, easy to distinguish town from scum.

You usually have a million page filter when you are town, I've a hard time believing you find the size taunting. What do you care about then and what are you going to about it? Why do you say sandroba's town play is easy to distinguish from his mafia play, my impression from looney lynching was that you had no idea whether he was town or mafia on day 1 (he got shot n1)?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 16:00 GMT
#751
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 16:32 GMT
#774
I'm going to spoil to you what he does, regardless of alignment. He picks 3 players, day post happens and then it's day 2 and we likely have a new decision to make. What else?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 17:40 GMT
#809
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 19:05 GMT
#856
Sandroba: when you are back, I would like to know if you have reconsidered Dienosore at all based on new content, in addition to explaining what about clarity_nl's play you find suspect. Some kind of mafia reads would also be helpful. Also any thoughts regarding the current candidate situation?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 21 2012 20:25 GMT
#880
kush4masta you stealth voted sandroba, which isn't a big deal as you already voted in the thread, but it indicates that you have been around and yet haven't addressed my questions. Usually it's hard to keep you from posting, but in this game you haven't even begun playing? Why is that?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 06:32 GMT
#1112
Sandroba I can't shake the feeling that the flurry of activity was just for appearances rather than with intend of actually being useful. You didn't answer my question regarding as to who you think is mafia. A lot of the posts you decided to reply to didn't seem important and you did not make any attempts at extracting useful information from anyone.

Today I think it's a good idea not to reveal, at least if I'm the leader, who the party is going to be until the action resolving period, because that minimizes potential of mafia roles somehow messing with the success of the party (doesn't eliminate it though) and prevents them from sniping party members in case it's an all town party. The main advantage in revealing who is coming is to provide more information regarding the alignment of the party leader, but I do not think that is necessary if I get elected. I have never been lynched as town and will never likely be; it should soon be extremely clear whether I'm town or not, it already is in fact.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 06:53 GMT
#1116
Right now I would say there is a >50% chance that sandroba is mafia. His interest in the game feels superficial and some of his posts feel off. For instance him saying that he is "torn" about clarity_nl as opposed to actually stating whether he now thinks it is more likely that he is town or mafia. His explanation as to why he thought clarity was mafia is also pretty weak by his standards. Pouncing with one-liners on weak stuff? That probably applies to many, many people in every single game.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 06:59 GMT
#1119
I also have a tough time determining mafia's strategy today if sandroba isn't mafia. None of the candidates besides us two are getting much traction. Marvel isn't running and I think he as mafia could easily run, possibly win and not look suspicious. He could still be mafia of course and there may be some mechanic we aren't aware of that explains why mafia doesn't feel the need to win today. None of the above is conclusive, but day 1 isn't unfolding in the manner I thought it would, unless sandroba is mafia. I suppose one possibility is that mafia did run candidates, but don't want to risk other mafia supporting them early unless they first get some town votes, indicating the possibility of them actually winning. Seems rather weak in this format though.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 07:45 GMT
#1128
On November 22 2012 16:23 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 16:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
@Syllo
I think that it is a better idea to talk about your party members and give reasoning rather than keeping it quiet, at least for the first cycle. This way it gives us more info about the players and your reads on them which will help us when the flips start happening.

What do you think about my point that party leader candidates expressing who they plan to choose as their party giving mafia extra influence as to who they want to vote to elect in the event that one of the candidates has a scum member in their proposed parties while the others might not?

This is absolutely true, although we don't know whether 1 mafia is enough for an event to fail. Balance wise I think it makes sense for that to be case, unless the party consists of townies with a high hidden factor numbers.

I'm not going to reveal who I am going to pick. I may do that after the day post if that is necessary; that is to say, if the event fails.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 07:52 GMT
#1131
On November 22 2012 16:12 Adam4167 wrote:
Syllo, what are your thoughts on Kitaman.

I am trying to grasp if he is taking this game seriously when he delivers a list of 'reads' with as lousy reasoning as he did.

I've seen him play well as both scum and town, and this doesn't look similar to either.

I don't currently find him particularly suspicious. Some elements of his posts point towards him being interested in figuring things out and nothing stands out as clearly mafia motivated. When he puts in effort his mafia play is good, however.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 07:53 GMT
#1132
When I said I may reveal who I am going to pick after the day post, I meant that I might explain why I picked the team I did, not just list the names as that is obviously unnecessary
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 08:02 GMT
#1135
On November 22 2012 16:58 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 16:53 syllogism wrote:
When I said I may reveal who I am going to pick after the day post, I meant that I might explain why I picked the team I did, not just list the names as that is obviously unnecessary

What? What benefit would it be not to explain the reasoning for why you picked them?

If the mission is a success and everyone considers me town anyway I don't think that's necessary and I would then rather be lazy.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 08:22 GMT
#1137
On November 22 2012 17:13 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 17:02 syllogism wrote:
On November 22 2012 16:58 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 22 2012 16:53 syllogism wrote:
When I said I may reveal who I am going to pick after the day post, I meant that I might explain why I picked the team I did, not just list the names as that is obviously unnecessary

What? What benefit would it be not to explain the reasoning for why you picked them?

If the mission is a success and everyone considers me town anyway I don't think that's necessary and I would then rather be lazy.

I'm not a fan of your lazy-when-I-feel-like-it strategy. It still feels like you should have your reads on why you picked your team already. It shouldn't be that much of an effort to scribble them down.

What do you think of leader-candidates outside you and sandroba? (feel free to ignore kitaman)

Acro seems like the only other serious candidate and I do not like his play so far. The most recent post of his that I found off was the one where he suggested for Frog should attempt to run a campaign without claiming and he based this on, in my view, laughable suggestion that frog was a playable character in the first mission of the game. It seemed like a complete fluff post rather than a serious well-thought of suggestion.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 08:34 GMT
#1142
It's more likely than not real and he seems kind of towny, but in a crazy way that has often posed me problems. As you know, I'm convinced that at least some of the main characters either aren't in the game (and mafia knows this so they are safe claims) or some of them are simply mafia.

I'll be back in maybe 6 hours
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 13:04 GMT
#1197
What kush has told us so far about his ability makes no sense at all. I think cyrus is a character that could be a third party flavor wise, but no point speculating about that right now.

Sandro: you said that you don't mind me being the leader. Does that mean you are open to throwing your support behind me and withdrawing your nomination?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 13:49 GMT
#1211
Goodkarma your system relies on a very questionable assumption; in every single game it is beneficial for mafia to be proactive and not lurking, yet few ever do. Overall I would characterize as your play and posts as droning and overly explanatory. Unfortunately you appear to show similar characteristics as town and mafia, so I'm not sure if that means anything.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 14:13 GMT
#1217
I'm not going to read Promethelax's previous games as he apparently posts way too much, but limited to just this game I think his play is suspicious so far.

Whomever is elected i will support in their choice of team 100%, we as a town gain more (information and, I believe a better chance of mission success) by giving that power to one person.

This doesn't feel like town mindset, which is that of suspicion. It makes no sense at all to suggest that whomever is elected you will support the choice of team 100%. How do you gain more information by giving that power to one person? If that person is mafia, what information do you gain from his choices? Better chance of mission success regardless of whom is elected?

This might also be nitpicky depending on how he plays usually, but first he has this to say about Hapa
He is a great town player and a kinda crappy scum player, seems like the right guy to have along for the ride.

I just don't have that town feel from Hapa. (as Hapa knows I never have a town feel from him).

First Promethelax asserts that hapa is a great town player and crappy scum player and thus prom wanted to have him on his team. In the second quote he says that he never has a town read on Hapa. This feels like the kind of contradiction that indicates a mindset other than town. If you aren't comfortable reading Hapa, why would you want him on your team? In general I find people who immediately suggested teams based on nothing at all.

His reasoning for not wanting to vote for me or sandro are also curious as I think I saw him only explaining why he chose not to vote for sandro, but didn't provide any reason for not voting for me.
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