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On November 25 2012 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
that he's useless and uncharacteristically quiet for either alignment.
Do you find that indicative of alignment?
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On November 25 2012 07:18 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 07:17 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 07:14 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:10 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:On November 25 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:01 iamperfection wrote:
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hes probably making an assumption based on the mission success. Don't give him ideas for an excuse... you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen. That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post. almost as silly as pointing it out Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there Would you like to share something with wrt your abilities ? Something that we could confirm tomorrow ? Not without giving away which one I'm using and who I'm targeting with which I don't want to do right now. So I guess you'll have no problem with calling you full of shit tomorrow ^^ I'll probably be dead to be honest
Drazerk just claimed scum.
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On November 25 2012 07:36 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 07:35 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 07:18 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:17 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 07:14 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:10 Djodref wrote:On November 25 2012 07:08 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:08 iamperfection wrote:On November 25 2012 07:07 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:05 iamperfection wrote:
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you know when people tell me to do something i usually don't listen. That wasn't a command it was pointing out a silly post. almost as silly as pointing it out Pointing it out does nothing once its already out there Would you like to share something with wrt your abilities ? Something that we could confirm tomorrow ? Not without giving away which one I'm using and who I'm targeting with which I don't want to do right now. So I guess you'll have no problem with calling you full of shit tomorrow ^^ I'll probably be dead to be honest Drazerk just claimed scum. Please do tell me how I did that
When you are scum you whine about how you will be shot by scum for having whatever outrageous role you claim (HRM springs to mind immediately). Town I have not seen you do this ever.
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On November 25 2012 07:42 CaveJohnson wrote:
Also I'm saying I'll be killed by town not scum etc this time.
I look forward to it. Unfortunately I won't be the one pulling the trigger 
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On November 25 2012 07:46 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 07:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 07:44 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 25 2012 07:43 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 07:42 CaveJohnson wrote:
Also I'm saying I'll be killed by town not scum etc this time. Yet you never tried to talk anyone out of it. Ugh. I was dead as soon as I had to role claim to save acro / snb You think you saved acro and snb by roleclaiming? Saved them from what? They was drawing heat since they knew my identity due to my posting style. Better the life of 2 than 1
We were? Why was I not informed?
You leaking info from your QT?
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On November 25 2012 07:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Acro, do you think that there are mafia on the Toad wagon?
Your case is ok, but I would like to see some defense from Toad and since that is not happening, I dont feel comfortable with a Toad lynch today
There are people I have not filtered in detail this cycle on the Toad lynch. Do I have any immediate concerns about Clarity or Zbo? No.
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I took 30 damage. Also, good job. I was wrong. Toad still scum, though.
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Okay. ##unvote
##vote Keirathi
However much I think Dieno is confirmed town I have no confidence in his ability to pick other town. Oatsmaster is also dubious, so that leaves Keir.
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On November 25 2012 10:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Chronicler.
Hmm is there a scum reason for doing this?
YES THERE IS. Toad was under pressure last cycle, chronicler was also under pressure. So fake a 'dt' check and BAM TOAD IS SCUM
There is no doubt in my mind that the man is telling the truth. Lay off him.
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On November 25 2012 10:44 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 23 2012 14:05 syllogism wrote:
I took 50 damage.
I'm going back to bed, but very briefly him suggesting that his modifier is likely low was something that probably makes people less likely pick him. He also pointed out the fact that if parties are announced in public, mafia has easier time choosing who to support and that was a pretty towny observation and something that occurred to me as well. In addition he wasn't afraid of asking me and sandro whether we thought he was suspicious. @PromSyllo took damage, but you managed to catch sand with a roleblock. He freely admits it, but later it seems you weren't sure. Were you bluffing him out when you said you knew he targeted syllo? Either way, if you're telling the truth it means that syllo was hit by a multi-target ability or he was hit by recoil from his own abilities, because you would have protected him form anything else. If someone is able to account for the 50 damage on Syllo in such a way that it proves Prom is lying about his roleblock ability, Prom is not town. I don't think that is the case, I just want to make that apparent to anyone that knows more than I do. Unless someone chimes in, I currently have a town read on Prom for trying to protect the successful party leader. Yeah I was bluffing but I thought it was a safe bet. There were only two roleblocks and it seemed inconceivable that no one targeted the leader of the town party besides me. So I took a gamble, i knew my credibility was pretty low but I knew my role could make or break this lynch (theoretically) so I challenged Sand on it. I was pretty shocked about the damage which Syllo claimed (I thought I would block it all and that mafia would have individual abilities and NOT factional kp but this is false, mafia has kp!) and I assumed that it was Mafia KP (another reason which I didn't state earlier that i thought he was Town in the 'one of Sand/Syllo is scum' argument). I looked at my pm again in writing this to confirm my abilities, it only roleblocks players so I imagine that factional kp is not blocked.
What is so hard to understand? Syllo got BUSSED. All the abilities that targeted him, targeted someone else instead and everything that targeted that someone else targeted Syllo.
Scum shoots flying-under-the-radar-town. Sandro busses all damage from that townie onto Syllo and all the protection (just Marv) on Syllo onto the flying-under-the-radar-town.
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Err, not just Marv. Prom and Marv, of course.
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On November 25 2012 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would take
Acro,
Marv,
Clarity.
I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum
Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment.
Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him.
I don't want to come. Swap me out for Dieno or Syllo... given the new information, I also prefer Chronicler over Clarity. I can see no reason for scum to bus Toad right now.
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On November 25 2012 11:23 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:19 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would take
Acro,
Marv,
Clarity.
I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum
Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment.
Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him. I don't want to come. Swap me out for Dieno or Syllo... given the new information, I also prefer Chronicler over Clarity. I can see no reason for scum to bus Toad right now. and you really didn't want to be party leader d1. Explain.
No.
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To be fair, I don't know that I will screw up our chances of winning the event, but I'd rather not risk it.
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Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given.
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On November 25 2012 11:29 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:27 Acrofales wrote:
Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given. Because your claim doesn't make sense. Remember this? Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote:On November 22 2012 05:36 phagga wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view). If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss. How the hell do you have any idea what your HIDDEN success modifier is? What CaveJohnson's post made me think of was 3rd party. I thought syllo was referring to the fact that a 3rd party didn't want to come along on the mission was "townie", because he at least cares enough about the town to warn them off. Now you're trying to portray that you being in a party could cause us to lose the event somehow.
I didn't say you didn't WANT any more information, just that you don't NEED any more information. My goal right now is to get this mission over successfully. It is safer if you don't take me.
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On November 25 2012 11:41 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:17 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 11:14 Hapahauli wrote:@ GKOn November 25 2012 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:46 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:39 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:37 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:30 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Marvellosity
I think he's town, and I trust his town-reading ability more than any possible alternatives at this point. Keep in mind there are other ways of going about this. Working under the premise that the successful team day one is all but confirmed town, we can cherry pick from that to form a team as quickly as possible. Pick a decent townie (like Keir), and then use the member whose judgement is arguably strongest (syllo) to determine the remainder of the party to be selected. Sure, it involves lots of sheeping, but it is a very sound way of removing any potential for mafia manipulation in the selection process. Well I think there's more consideration than just to create a team that's as "safe" as possible. One of the functions of running these missions is to confirm people as town. In that regard, I don't mind electing players that I'm strongly reading as town, as opposed to "confirmed" townies (via previous mission). We can confirm strong town reads if success, or a possible failure could alert us to a dangerous scumplayer. Really? I thought the function of these missions was winning... We can only have half the party from last time anyway, so some confirming will be involved. But why not leave the reigns in the hands of people we (pretty much with absolute certainty) know to be town? I see no down-side. Well I honestly don't know what the success/failure of a mission determines behind the scenes. However, missions can confirm people as town, and we also need to consider that aspect of it when making a decision. All that winning gave us last time was the chance to lynch. If that's all that happens when things go well, then, yeah, I'd rather not learn what happens when we fail... Hint: I doubt we'll be able to lynch. Wait what? How do you know what success/failure of a mission does? Mission success wasn't explicitly linked to a lynch day in any host-post I saw. I don't understand what you want to know from this question... I have no psychic abilities that forsee what Greymist might do to us if we fail, if that's what you're getting at. And if you were to look at my comments, I believe I have clearly conveyed that. Well you seemed to come up with this idea out of thin air, so either I missed something in Greymists filter or you made that comment having either a) extra knowledge that town wouldn't know or b) a bad assumption. Either way, I want to know.
Eh, that idea was bouncing around all day. Not sure who mentioned it first. GK states it with a weird amount of certainty, but the idea wasn't new.
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On November 25 2012 11:42 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok right, in that case,
I will take Dieno (Froggy :D)
Ribbit! I intend to run against you for leader, but it will be a friendly race. I can promise you'll have a spot with me too, so no fear my friend.
Why do you feel more confident in taking Oats than in Syllo?
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On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern
You're an idiot. He's lying.
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