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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On November 25 2012 03:40 Dienosore wrote: I'm going to be rather afk from now until the vote. Going to go ahead an lock something in. As far as I can tell, the three big candidates for the gallows are looking like either Sandroba, Kitaman, or TheChronicler. I'll delay my afk-ness for as long as possible so these three can make one last case for me why they shouldn't get my vote. Rather than proving someone else is scum, I'd like for them to prove their innocence. Have it it, boys. I don't have much time left. If none of you reply to this, then im going to have my sister who has no idea what mafia is to randomly pick one of your names. This is ludicrous. I am town and I have no idea how I would go about 'proving my innocence' to you if I wanted to try. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
The purpose of my candidacy was quite clear; To get elected and to get my preferred team chosen. I provided my list of people I would bring along, explained my thought process, and then attempted to get syllo to reveal his team so I could provide input. As for my scum reads, my initial scum post was 24 hours into the game. It was basically the people I didn't want to come along under any circumstances due to their play. The focus on day one was town hunting, which is what I also focused on. Today I think I've been quite open with my reads. I explained why Cave has to die, I explained why I am on the fence about sandroba, I explained why I have a scum read on nuke (which you don't even bring up). You mention that I haven't been drawing on past games with my drazerk case. I read through pokemafia and aperture yesterday and steamship/one of the normal games today. I could bring up a bunch of examples of how he fake claims and posts nonsense, but that's common knowledge. I am well aware of the fact that he has a history of doing this as town. To me, the difference comes down to motivation. At the current point, I don't see how his post benefits town, rather than personal amusement. He has responded a couple times to my questions and completely dropped off the map. The thing that you are completely overlooking is how open I am being. Every game as town, my number one goal is to share my thought process and hope that other people are seeing the same things. Why do you ignore the 200 damage that I've been targeted with in your case. Do you think this is a town ability or that I'm lying about it? @whoever asked me to reveal my guessing game pick, I picked the player I thought most likely to get lynched. At the point where I had to submit it, I wasn't sure who I'd be pushing and that seemed like the most logical choice. @Acro, I currently have the players in the game ranked and I have TheChronicler in the top 10 for likely scum suspects due to his reactionary playstyle and his focus on his himself. I've devoted my time elsewhere however so I've only read his filter once. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17956 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Toad vs. Marvel] + On November 22 2012 02:06 Toadesstern wrote: Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle. I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo. So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong. So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job. On November 24 2012 23:19 marvellosity wrote: I didn't want to go there, because it didn't seem worth it, but you've been straight out lying about LV all game. Mainly to make yourself look better. You excuse yourself in LV for inviting me into your mason chat as either "you were trolling" or there were 2 kenpachi-like people left to invite. This is simple false. You invited me BEFORE confirmed town EchelonTee, because I appeared so town to you, and BEFORE extremely townie newbie austinmcc. You invited me because your read on me was wrong and you thought it was the useful thing to do. Given I replaced in night 1 LV, and pushed a scum straight away who got modkilled, I was viewed as town from very early and that remained the case throughout the game. So saying "I wasn't so much involved early on" is once again a flat out lie. Just to dig the boot in, mafia (me/wiggles) left you alive that game, despite you were confirmed town, for many many cycles because you were so completely and utterly useless. Stop referring to games where you've managed to talk yourself into having a really rosy view of the outcome when in reality your read on me was 100% wrong and you got completely outplayed, and left alive by scum for being an irrelevance. And stop lying about it now. I giggled. If you misrepresented your ability to read people, I am confused why you wanted to be party leader. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On November 25 2012 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: I explained why Cave has to die, I explained why I am on the fence about sandroba, I explained why I have a scum read on nuke (which you don't even bring up). You mention that I haven't been drawing on past games with my drazerk case. I read through pokemafia and aperture yesterday and steamship/one of the normal games today. I could bring up a bunch of examples of how he fake claims and posts nonsense, but that's common knowledge. I am well aware of the fact that he has a history of doing this as town. To me, the difference comes down to motivation. At the current point, I don't see how his post benefits town, rather than personal amusement. He has responded a couple times to my questions and completely dropped off the map. Why do you ignore the 200 damage that I've been targeted with in your case. Do you think this is a town ability or that I'm lying about it? Everyone wants Cave to die, what you didn't do is explain why he is scum. Do you actually get a sense from these other games that he ever posts to benefit town? If so, could you provide examples, because I've never been able to see it. I ignored the 200 damage because I have no way of telling whether it's a town ability, you're lying about it, or you're town after all targeted by scum, so I see no point in speculating about it. Same with sandroba's damage and roleblock. I have no way of verifying that either. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I want a name with an explanation of why you thought he was prolly getting lynched. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 03:56 marvellosity wrote: It is somewhat tempting just to kill sandroba simply on the basis that kita is at least trying. I would prefer to kill CJ in this case. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 25 2012 01:11 kitaman27 wrote: Oh really? So now I'm scummy? Funny because before I brought you up, you've never mentioned me. Strange considering I was one of the three main candidates yesterday, yet you completely ignored me. No need to get worked up. I know I mentioned how I'm used to seeing you aggressive, but it doesn't really count if it comes after I mention it. Why should I have to ask for your opinions? Why not give them yourself and then push your thoughts on people once you do post them? I started disliking Sandroba when Sandroba stopped acting like a townie. If you think that's suspicious you need to learn how to play this game. Furthermore the reason I'm voting sandroba is not inactivity and if you don't think he's scummy I want to hear concrete reasons why from you. Main candidate... your campaign was a joke. Also, nice selective quoting and responses. Cutting out my defence of your bullshit. here is the uncut post. + Show Spoiler + On November 24 2012 20:43 risk.nuke wrote: Scummy post from a scummy player. I don't question that Sandroba is town or not? You're not the first person to bring it up so perhaps I've phrased it poorly but I did absolutely believe Sandroba was town at the time. As I said his activity was promising and from what I had seen at that time he looked townier by far then anyone else. The next person who disagrees with that better be able to tell me why Sandroba was scummy at that time. You other point is bullshit. I had a townread on sandroba. Acrofales didn't have townreads on his three candidates. He just wanted to send them because they were good players and for that reason. If you want opinions from me you're free to ask me for them and I may or may not give you an answer, but if you don't I'll be damned if I'll accept that you show up later accusing me of not sharing opinions when all game you've not given a fuck about them. I started disliking Sandroba when Sandroba stopped acting like a townie. If you think that's suspicious you need to learn how to play this game. Furthermore the reason I'm voting sandroba is not inactivity and if you don't think he's scummy I want to hear concrete reasons why from you. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 25 2012 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: Marv, in response to your case against me: -snip- @Acro, I currently have the players in the game ranked and I have TheChronicler in the top 10 for likely scum suspects due to his reactionary playstyle and his focus on his himself. I've devoted my time elsewhere however so I've only read his filter once. Could you provide your top five scum suspects? It would be a shame to let such a list go to waste... | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
On November 25 2012 03:59 goodkarma wrote: Could you provide your top five scum suspects? It would be a shame to let such a list go to waste... "Could you provide your top five scum suspects? It would be a shame to let such a perfect opportunity to paint a target on you if you are close". | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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TheChronicler
Macedonia260 Posts
On November 25 2012 03:56 marvellosity wrote: It is somewhat tempting just to kill sandroba simply on the basis that kita is at least trying. Giving yourself a way back onto sandroba? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 25 2012 04:02 Dienosore wrote: "Could you provide your top five scum suspects? It would be a shame to let such a perfect opportunity to paint a target on you if you are close". No, GK is right. He might get lynched tonight. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On November 25 2012 04:03 TheChronicler wrote: Giving yourself a way back onto sandroba? I already gave myself a way back on to sandroba, quite openly, and said I would be happy to lynch him. What is the point of these pathetic little snipes at everybody? | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On November 25 2012 04:02 Clarity_nl wrote: A lot of people haven't, why does this condemn him but not others? This is not a defense of him, just curious. because most people are useless and kita is not | ||
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