EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXXI - Page 33
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Kickstart
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Mr. Cheesecake
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JacobStrangelove
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On November 28 2012 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: 2-3 people is hardly everyone, Jacob. Yeah but compared to the competition the second most liked person is helio with two accounts that stood out? Not saying OMG HE LIKES PEOPLE HE MUST BE SCUM or anything just putting down what I have observed. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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Kickstart
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Oatsmaster
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I say everyone say their top scum reads. My Top Scum read is: Heloknight. After Munk-E appears, he agrees with munke but still keeps his vote on him??? It is obvious that munk-e wasnt actually a scum read for him so why did he still vote for him? Also he asked a series of questions for me which I completely missed and he didnt pressure me to answer them. This shows that he is not interested in actually finding scum but to look like he is involved | ||
yamato77
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Hapahauli
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On November 28 2012 13:00 yamato77 wrote: Can mafia KP be roleblocked? Yes | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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yamato77
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JacobStrangelove
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It seems rather well thought out, (inspired by my munkey is confirmed town lets see what he had to say post?) However one thing he said you had the largest filter int he game about 5 pages. But in checking your filter I see 4 pages with only your latest post in the 4'th page? Formatting error or not paying enough attention to his reads. But I will re read your reply... actually i can't find it clearly could you link to it? | ||
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yamato77
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On November 28 2012 09:22 yamato77 wrote: i'm at work right now so I don't have a lot of time but that "case" against me is just kick pointing at Munk's read of me and going, "Look! I know you guys already saw this but I think it means something now!" The revelation that Munk-E is town does not make his read on me automatically correct. For your viewing pleasure. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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Well that isn't much on an defense to be completely honest. Just because it isn't automatically right doesn't mean it's wrong. There are still points brought up against you that you need to cover. If you are town take my opinion that it's actually a good case and needs to be discussed in enough detail to prove you innocent. if you are mafia then do whatever lol. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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yamato77
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But honestly, you haven't done much to prove you are town at all. I ask you for reads and opinions and you answer, but I don't really see you making any posts putting pressure on people or attempting to make cases against your scum suspects. I don't really know who they are, to be honest. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
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 )This has been based on. originally my read was he was to 'bad' to be scum however he has been doing so many stupid things I am unsure if he has employed it as a tactic. the 1 down 5 to go thing I mentioned has moved him into my limelight as I as well as sonic?(forget who exactly) Almost posted something like that when we were mafia. Only puts him neutral though but before I was reading him town due to style. | ||
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Aquanim
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On November 28 2012 02:23 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: I don't particularly like this broad question and I don't particularly think voting for Munk-E was scummy. I think it's much better to focus on someone who actually did look really scummy during the voting, throwing out those questions makes it so easy for scum to slip by in a sea of answers. My explanation: + Show Spoiler + I was one of the first to express suspicion of Yamato (I actually think Aqua was the first but I can't be bothered to go back and check). I later made the case against Cake, which I thought was pretty good but after Cake had responded didn't feel was strong enough. When I made the case against Cake, Yamato sheeped it hard with really poor motivation, which made me switch to him since I had already been suspicious of him. When Yamato started explaining himself I got the feeling he was genuine. Yes, this is kind of abstract, but I thought his effort to change read townie. Also, Yamato expressed before the game started that Marv was his role model for town play. From what I've seen from Marv he tends to post a lot of one-liners, so I was getting the feeling yamato had tried the Marv strat, it had backfired, and now he was feeling bad because he had fucked up. He explained what his thought process through-out the game and tried to be more transparent than his one-liners had been. Some attacked him for just restating events, but I thought his way of explaining himself was rather good. What was still lacking was original cases, but I let that slip by because making original cases while defending himself isn't really that easy (and honestly, when it comes to a lack of original cases he had competition of a lot of other players). (As an aside, the Yamato wagon still gained momentum even after I jumped off. I thought his response to this wagon was rather townie. This is getting really long-winded so I won't go into detail, but for obvious reasons this part of the defense had nothing to do with me switching to Munk-E At that point I switched to Munk-E. He really had shown no effort and I convinced myself he was an ok vote. I still think he was a better vote than Yamato, but I also still think it was a bad vote in the sense it was a coin-flip. Like I said at the time, it was a cop out and admitting that I couldn't find a good scum read. Basically a policy lynch. Now Aqua, I'm a bit curious about your vote on Munk-E. If found it weird. If I recall correctly, you made a short post voting for Munk-E. Then 45 minutes later you had typed out a long-ass case on Kick. I know those posts take a lot of time to write. Did you really read through Kicks filter, decide he was scummy, type up that post with all the formatting and stuff all in 45 minutes? If yes, then it seems you couldn't have put a lot of thought into your case and weighing it against other possibilities (weird considering how confident you seemed it was the best case out there). I asked that question because I didn't have any idea of the spirit of the thread or thoughts at that time - if I'd been reading and interacting with the wagons I wouldn't have asked. The question is indeed broad and I didn't expect to gain a huge amount with it. As for my vote on Munk-E, I came back, read the thread, saw he still hadn't posted much of anything and voted him on principle. It was a vote intended to make him post some more - any decisions on my part as to whether he was scum worthy of a lynch was going to come after his posts. I had written up half of the case on Kickstart the day before, but I wasn't fully confident in it without seeing another day of his posting patterns before I shook the tree (which didn't change much - if they had I'd have thrown the case out). Having gone back and read through exactly what he'd said since, I added his new posts and posted the case. On November 28 2012 06:33 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: @Aqua How did you become so convinced Kick was scum (or at least the best lynch candidate)? You don't seem to put that much time into this game, so it seems a bit weird to me. I had a lot more time to put into it the first day, and that was when the nucleus of the Kick case was born. Also, I put a little more time into the game than might be apparent - most of my time for the next few hours (whenever that is in your timezone) has been put into reading the game, there's just not many people around to interact with. Most of my time last night no-one was posting at all. | ||
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