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On November 16 2012 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:37 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 16 2012 06:28 DarthPunk wrote:
OK just got up. Hapa was super obvious scum at the end. there was no way to reconcile hapa's behaviour with his town play. While I might be highly suspicious of ZB I was sure of Hapa at that point.
I don't know if ZB is trying to imply that somehow I was being scummy by changing my reads when presented with new information. But that's what I did. I was positive I was going to get lynched and wanted to get my positions as soon to be confirmed town across.
For the record I am pretty sure ZB is scum.
He WIFOM bombed at the end, and they read as such rather than genuine attempts at catching scum.
Hapa tried to derail the ZB lynch and outed himself in the process.
This is on top of the case by marv.
When the lynch was going down yesterday I became highly suspicious of ZB/BH and hapa. I'm not trying to imply anything. I want to certify my read on you. Why was Hapahauli super-obvious scum at the end? What made him change your mind? I didn't change my mind. I was already suspicious of hapa. Read my death posts. Then he tried to derail the lynch far too late after trying to lynch me for making a case that wasn't on a leading candidate. He wanted to Vote for DEBEARS of all people when there was no way he was getting lynched. There was no way town Hapa would play that way.
Yes, and Hopeless wanted to do the same thing. As a matter of fact, he did. Does that make you suspicious of him also?
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Namely hopeless and BH. BH is posting tons but it is all crap - not to mention making the game 1238712897312387x more confusing for town.
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who gives a fuck if he's fucking jailkeeper?
if he's jailkeeper he'll not be able to pull off his saves because he'll be roleblocked.
Don't shoot a lurker, because, maybe you're not good enough to, but others are good enough to get reads on them.
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maaaarv say something about hopeless's list post so i can move on to something else
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EBWOP: I will make a post giving some detailed thoughts later. At this moment I have another commitment so I have to dip out but I will get the post up before night actions.
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On November 16 2012 06:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:46 Dandel Ion wrote:On November 16 2012 06:43 marvellosity wrote:On November 16 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:On November 16 2012 06:36 debears wrote:
And if bh is sk its a wasted shot if he's nk immune not necessarily. because if he's jailkeeper, scum would be roleblocking him to try to prevent him saving their scumshot. And scum would only know he's not-scum. And if he doesn't die, then town knows 100% that he is SK. That would be extremely valuable. EBWOP: to clarify a little, roleblocking removes one-shot immunity. No, in this game it doesn't. Are there any other rules that are non-standard that I should know about?
The only other thing I am aware of is that Keir set the night action resolution priority to "scum RB > town RB/jail > everything else".
Not sure if that's non-standard though.. I am but a newbie after all.
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On November 16 2012 06:49 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:On November 16 2012 06:37 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 16 2012 06:28 DarthPunk wrote:
OK just got up. Hapa was super obvious scum at the end. there was no way to reconcile hapa's behaviour with his town play. While I might be highly suspicious of ZB I was sure of Hapa at that point.
I don't know if ZB is trying to imply that somehow I was being scummy by changing my reads when presented with new information. But that's what I did. I was positive I was going to get lynched and wanted to get my positions as soon to be confirmed town across.
For the record I am pretty sure ZB is scum.
He WIFOM bombed at the end, and they read as such rather than genuine attempts at catching scum.
Hapa tried to derail the ZB lynch and outed himself in the process.
This is on top of the case by marv.
When the lynch was going down yesterday I became highly suspicious of ZB/BH and hapa. I'm not trying to imply anything. I want to certify my read on you. Why was Hapahauli super-obvious scum at the end? What made him change your mind? I didn't change my mind. I was already suspicious of hapa. Read my death posts. Then he tried to derail the lynch far too late after trying to lynch me for making a case that wasn't on a leading candidate. He wanted to Vote for DEBEARS of all people when there was no way he was getting lynched. There was no way town Hapa would play that way. Yes, and Hopeless wanted to do the same thing. As a matter of fact, he did. Does that make you suspicious of him also?
Not necessarily because I don't expect the same things out of hopeless that I expect out of Hapa. That being said I will read his filter again.
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On November 16 2012 06:52 strongandbig wrote:
maaaarv say something about hopeless's list post so i can move on to something else
what do you want to know? I don't think anything of it in particular. I can see either alignment posting it.
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On November 16 2012 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
who gives a fuck if he's fucking jailkeeper?
if he's jailkeeper he'll not be able to pull off his saves because he'll be roleblocked.
Don't shoot a lurker, because, maybe you're not good enough to, but others are good enough to get reads on them.
Cool marv. Flaming cuz I disagree with you. That's real pro town there
You're making a huge deal out of this. Just lynch him if u feel he's that detrimental. Don't make a vig waste a shot (cuz 2/3 things he could be are wasted shots)
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On November 16 2012 03:11 Z-BosoN wrote:iamperfection is also someone on hapa's train I can't make much sense of. In GSL, he showed that he has no problem bussing. Did so with marv getting lynched on day two quite fast. Now let's take a look at his filter: He's basically been sheeping marv like mad this game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:11 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
why is he making that post instead of bothering to read the thread, where BH is clearly not a possibility?
It's just nonsense. exactly its so terrible. Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:45 marvellosity wrote:
yeah this is gonna be a mislynch i agree ## Unvote Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:49 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote z-boson
in marv i trust When suddenly, out of nowhere, he says: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 debears wrote:
Save Hapa for d2 BH yeah basically this well i actually wouldnt mind doing it now this is not town hapa. going herp derp scumslip scumslip I'd like to know what herp derp "scumslips" he's referring to. When going through his filter, the only mention of scumslip I found is this: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:Holy scumslip DP iamp - good stuff OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote? ##unvote##Vote DarthPunk ya i dont like that hapa i wouldn't call it a scum slip its a more of being stupid slip. Which to me doesn't look much like a scumslip (or stupid-slip) So I would also like him to clarify why he suddenly decided that he was going to not sheep marv and go for hapa. Also, this is open to interpretation, but his exchange with hapa, regarding my explanation, makes it seem like he's more suspicious of me than of hapa Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 09:50 Hapahauli wrote:http://postimage.org/image/9ilt0jqpt/Hapa = Melvin Z-Bo = Paulo The above is a small snip of a skype convo we had a few weeks back. I obviously don't want to screenshot the whole thing (it goes on a while), but this should get the gist of it - Z-Bo really wanted to play a less-active style of play and was running it by me (I advised against it, but he was unconvinced throughout). This makes me think that this could be town Z-Bo. I know what Ver's guide says about the random 1-liners and what not but I really just disagree with it in this specific case. I think it's just a product of him wanting to post less. He could be scum, but at the end of the day, debears is much scummier to me. that all from the skype conversation? He doesn't really say much about changing his style fundamentally there just that he is going to post less and he failed to do so. Especially when earlier on he agreed with the case on debears with hapa: Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:On November 14 2012 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:On November 14 2012 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
i'm starting to ponder debears also Looking at debears, there's not much to say other than there's not much substance in his 4-page filter. Lots of short, 1/2 line posts with banter. He jumps on Hopeless really quickly, who's one of the easier targets in the game. He's then pretty quick to jump on iamperfection, and has been pushing that "read" since. As previously stated, his "vote post" looks like an overkill-case. But the thing that really sticks out to me is that he's been tunneling iamperfection for the last few hours yet still has his vote on Hopeless. He's using a lot of strong language against iamperfection (much stronger than against hopeless), and from his filter it looks like iamperfection is his top scumread. At this point he's much more content to push the read on iamperfection than his one on Hopeless, and I see no townie reason why his vote isn't where his mouth is. ##Unvote##Vote debears i might be able to get behind this but i will wait for him to respond. Looking at it your absolutely right because i had to double check i could have sworn his vote was on me but it in fact isn't. He did use strong language but didnt put the vote out there and was curios to see what others thought (Testing the waters maybe?) however i will wait for him to respond. So, iamperfection, would like you, as well, to explain your thoughts, and be more clear on what you are referring to when you said "herp derp scumslip scumslip" and why you chose hapa over me. and i aired some misgivings about hapa well before so i dont really know what to say to you.
i litteraly have no idea what your talking about. I always sheep marv and i really haven't done it this game.
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On November 16 2012 03:11 Z-BosoN wrote:iamperfection is also someone on hapa's train I can't make much sense of. In GSL, he showed that he has no problem bussing. Did so with marv getting lynched on day two quite fast. Now let's take a look at his filter: He's basically been sheeping marv like mad this game: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:11 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
why is he making that post instead of bothering to read the thread, where BH is clearly not a possibility?
It's just nonsense. exactly its so terrible. Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:45 marvellosity wrote:
yeah this is gonna be a mislynch i agree ## Unvote Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:49 iamperfection wrote:
## Vote z-boson
in marv i trust When suddenly, out of nowhere, he says: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:54 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:On November 15 2012 10:53 debears wrote:
Save Hapa for d2 BH yeah basically this well i actually wouldnt mind doing it now this is not town hapa. going herp derp scumslip scumslip I'd like to know what herp derp "scumslips" he's referring to. When going through his filter, the only mention of scumslip I found is this: Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:Holy scumslip DP iamp - good stuff OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote? ##unvote##Vote DarthPunk ya i dont like that hapa i wouldn't call it a scum slip its a more of being stupid slip. Which to me doesn't look much like a scumslip (or stupid-slip) So I would also like him to clarify why he suddenly decided that he was going to not sheep marv and go for hapa. Also, this is open to interpretation, but his exchange with hapa, regarding my explanation, makes it seem like he's more suspicious of me than of hapa Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 09:58 iamperfection wrote:On November 15 2012 09:50 Hapahauli wrote:http://postimage.org/image/9ilt0jqpt/Hapa = Melvin Z-Bo = Paulo The above is a small snip of a skype convo we had a few weeks back. I obviously don't want to screenshot the whole thing (it goes on a while), but this should get the gist of it - Z-Bo really wanted to play a less-active style of play and was running it by me (I advised against it, but he was unconvinced throughout). This makes me think that this could be town Z-Bo. I know what Ver's guide says about the random 1-liners and what not but I really just disagree with it in this specific case. I think it's just a product of him wanting to post less. He could be scum, but at the end of the day, debears is much scummier to me. that all from the skype conversation? He doesn't really say much about changing his style fundamentally there just that he is going to post less and he failed to do so. Especially when earlier on he agreed with the case on debears with hapa: Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 10:19 iamperfection wrote:On November 14 2012 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:On November 14 2012 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
i'm starting to ponder debears also Looking at debears, there's not much to say other than there's not much substance in his 4-page filter. Lots of short, 1/2 line posts with banter. He jumps on Hopeless really quickly, who's one of the easier targets in the game. He's then pretty quick to jump on iamperfection, and has been pushing that "read" since. As previously stated, his "vote post" looks like an overkill-case. But the thing that really sticks out to me is that he's been tunneling iamperfection for the last few hours yet still has his vote on Hopeless. He's using a lot of strong language against iamperfection (much stronger than against hopeless), and from his filter it looks like iamperfection is his top scumread. At this point he's much more content to push the read on iamperfection than his one on Hopeless, and I see no townie reason why his vote isn't where his mouth is. ##Unvote##Vote debears i might be able to get behind this but i will wait for him to respond. Looking at it your absolutely right because i had to double check i could have sworn his vote was on me but it in fact isn't. He did use strong language but didnt put the vote out there and was curios to see what others thought (Testing the waters maybe?) however i will wait for him to respond. So, iamperfection, would like you, as well, to explain your thoughts, and be more clear on what you are referring to when you said "herp derp scumslip scumslip" and why you chose hapa over me.
ebwop quote fuck up
i litteraly have no idea what your talking about. I always sheep marv and i really haven't done it this game. and i aired some misgivings about hapa well before so i dont really know what to say to you.
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marv you dont think bh is just playing wifom mind games with the mafia in being a jk?
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On November 16 2012 07:02 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
who gives a fuck if he's fucking jailkeeper?
if he's jailkeeper he'll not be able to pull off his saves because he'll be roleblocked.
Don't shoot a lurker, because, maybe you're not good enough to, but others are good enough to get reads on them. Cool marv. Flaming cuz I disagree with you. That's real pro town there You're making a huge deal out of this. Just lynch him if u feel he's that detrimental. Don't make a vig waste a shot (cuz 2/3 things he could be are wasted shots)
I'm making a big deal out of this because I'm telling the vigi what's optimal, and you're saying it's not.
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Eh. Nvm marv. I agree with u
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On November 16 2012 07:22 iamperfection wrote:
marv you dont think bh is just playing wifom mind games with the mafia in being a jk?
BH could be doing fucking anything.
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On November 16 2012 06:34 Kickstart wrote:
And this shit about me lurking is getting annoying, I have posts all throughout the thread, I have given my views on people and been completely genuine. Just because I'm not spamming up the thread with useless one-liner shit posts like half the people here doesn't mean I'm lurking.
i am by no means an activity fiend and i have a 9 page filter to your 2 so yes that would be defined as lurking. And dont knock 1 line posts. We killed hapa with 1 line posts.
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meh vig do what you think is best you dont have to listen to marv.
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Kickstart has 30+ posts and we are still in the first cycle.
That is not lurking.
Just because he's not activity fiends like the rest of us doesn't make him a lurker. 30+ posts in a cycle is quite adequate actually.
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On November 16 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Kickstart has 30+ posts and we are still in the first cycle.
That is not lurking.
Just because he's not activity fiends like the rest of us doesn't make him a lurker. 30+ posts in a cycle is quite adequate actually.
Well if he wants to complain about it there is only one way to fix it.
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On November 16 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
Kickstart has 30+ posts and we are still in the first cycle.
That is not lurking.
Just because he's not activity fiends like the rest of us doesn't make him a lurker. 30+ posts in a cycle is quite adequate actually.
What do you think of his content marv?
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