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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:18 debears wrote: Hey S&B When were those posts? Early D1 if I recall What have you posted that's so great? You trolled in the beginning. Now you're being hypocritical in your vote Spread more shit on every other player. That'll save you 100% | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:18 debears wrote: Hey S&B When were those posts? Early D1 if I recall What have you posted that's so great? You trolled in the beginning. Now you're being hypocritical in your vote Do what i said or feel my wrath. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:18 marvellosity wrote: debears is right, by the way. Some of Hapa's pushing on him is fucking nonsense. was that a tease? | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 15 2012 06:14 marvellosity wrote: I'm finding you kinda scummy all of a sudden actually. "He can definitely be scum" is not a read, by the way. Anyone can definitely be scum. Isn't it fucking obvious that I mean that to me he has a good chance of being scum, especially given what I've written on him? 10x better than your "I'm finding you kinda scummy" which adds shit to the thread. If Hopeless is a 10, DP is a 7, go with that. Try answering the question now? I phrased it very clearly and I find it important enough that I insist. Anyways, Hopeless´s meta explanation makes sense, and that was my main issue with him. Right now I´d rather lynch DarthPunk. Gonna let marv finish to see if he will/will not change my mind. ##Unvote | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:18 marvellosity wrote: debears is right, by the way. Some of Hapa's pushing on him is fucking nonsense. this is true like all that stuff about "not voting your top scumread" that's only important when votes actually matter, i don't get this obsession people have with who voted who for what reason during the first six hours of the day | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
thrawn2112 - has ACME. Been afk. Null Hapahauli - Scum. Terribad reasoning for his cases. Pushing someone making scumreads over people who aren't (which scumhunting is his number one thing in his book). Blazinghand - I believe his jk claim for now. I'd like to see some more scumhunting though strongandbig - Trolled early d1. A vet. Null leaning scummy. Also, hypocritical in his vote DarthPunk - Same as thrawn. Null Clarity_nl - Has disappeared lately. Liked his posting early though. Null leaning town Hopeless1der - Scum. Look at my filter so my thoughts on his lecturing/lack of caring for town iamperfection - Town. We had some serious mental connections after I realized I was wrong on his timing of his read switch on BH Kickstart - No original contributions. Null leaning scummy Crossfire99 - Modkill Z-BosoN - has posted very little, but has huge posts. Null tell leaning town. You could say his huge posts are good because of content, but it makes it easier as scum imo to just post big posts that you can think out, instead of just reacting. He seems pretty reasonable | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:19 Hopeless1der wrote: Spread more shit on every other player. That'll save you 100% I don't need saving. I'm not gettin lynched | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Given the legit concerns I raised earlier about the downsides of claiming Jailkeeper, plus the fact you're a good enough player to avert your lynch if you're town, I just wanted to know your thought process when you decided to claim. I'd quite like to make a read on you because it will help with my Z-Boson read. At the moment I think he is scum. Although I am struggling to make an excellent case out of it because so much of it comes down to tone. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
If SnB is vet then I've been playing great this game and Marv has good control of his temper. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HOPELESS FROM THE BEGINNING. HOLY SHIT.I wasn't under serious suspicion. Now, you're lying Ok this bit is fair, however: HE WAS IN NO WAY THE "EASY LYNCH" WHEN I FIRST HAD SUSPICIONS OF HIM. This is complete bullshit. This coming from the guy who accused me of going after "easy" targets in iamperfection and you. And oh look. I NEVER VOTED YOU HAPA CUZ YOU AREN'T GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. Now, you're making stuff up More lies The voting is a big deal because I still don't see how the hell you arrived at Hopeless being your top scumread. Hell you started all this "OMG OMG HOPELESS SCUM" thing the second I called you out for not pushing him and pushing iamperfection instead. Maybe at some point you'll actually respond to this instead of spouting your "bad assumption" nonsense about your "suspicion" on Hopeless: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=47#937 Hell you're entire read on me is OMGUS and that I'm somehow not following my principles. This is retarded and I can't imagine you'd ever come up with this shit as town. By all means show me how I'm not - the "overkill" read I've mentioned in some of my other town games as well. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
the first half of it is mega terrible like, there's a bunch of unimportant one-liners and then like his only big posts until he starts getting accused are about the "who knew when whether crossfire was a smurf" thing, which just doesn't matter so hard it hurts but then later i like hopeless's responses quite a bit more but then i actually read his list post and it contains gems like "Hapa - town, largely due to connections between him and debears, and between him and kickstart. This read has severely influenced my current scumreads. " town b/c he attacked your scumread, debears was attacked by your townread therefore he's scum lolwut "BH is trolly as fuck, but unlynchable today due to an uncountered JK claim. I haven't read into his meta, because there is no chance to push his lynch, even if I can make a convincing case. Despite this, I think the trolling is scummy, and I'll need to read the threads he's referenced during the night (assuming I'm not lynched)." he claimed so he's gonna be hard to lynch today so why bother thinking about him lolwut "Clarity - Town. He seems to misread the thread or just confuse people alot. I feel that type of repeating 'mistake' is less likely to happen as scum." yeah confusing people totally isn't in a scum's interest lolwut "Z-Bo - Town. I liked his pursuit of his case against BH and thought he brought up some legitimate points. Apparently they were so good BH had to claim to escape. " lolwut no other comments just lolwut oh actually yes other comments - zboson is town because bh responded stupidly to his case? "Strongandbig - Null-Town. Strange vt claim feels townslippy. However, Kenpachi rule shenanigans and insists on lynching BH for a while, despite blueclaim. Too strong of a scum motive to just let that slide, but I also think BH is scummy, so this read flips to Null-Scum if BH is in fact JK." lolwut - is this, like, a reverse connection theory? like, if bh is telling the truth then I must be scum? i really don't think that makes sense yeah so now i'm suddenly torn between wanting to test the kenpachi rule and hopeless's filter actually being terrible I guess if I really really had to I might vote hopeless to push that past a darthpunk lynch, because the reasons for lynching darthpunk are actually the worst. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:30 Blazinghand wrote: I mean, I personally don't think ZB is scum right now. Earlier I did for the way he was trying to set up town cred with his voting pattern, but iamp correctly noted that ZB straightened up after his initial OMGUS on me. This could be due to scum thread coaching, I'll admit, but the aggression he displayed, however wrong-headed, is town to me. wasn't what i asked dear | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:28 Blazinghand wrote: The assumption that anyone is getting modkilled D1 when there are 4 people sitting on the replacement list is bad. Giving thrawn or DP null reads simply because they're in another game is also bad. If someone's lurking, give them a null for lurking if that's your take-- but don't consider the existence of another game as a mitigating factor for activity levels. If SnB is vet then I've been playing great this game and Marv has good control of his temper. sticks and stones bh sticks and stones | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Off the top of my head he is usually a bit more active in his town games and was a tad lurky in his scum game (can't draw conclusions from that though). I generally think his posts have been fewer in number but higher in quality. I'm inclined to think it's a stylistic change and not scummy given some of my previous conversations with him. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:28 Hapahauli wrote: Hell you're entire read on me is OMGUS and that I'm somehow not following my principles. This is retarded and I can't imagine you'd ever come up with this shit as town. By all means show me how I'm not - the "overkill" read I've mentioned in some of my other town games as well. I'm not sure how debears questionable posting and his bombastic aggression towards you is indicative of him being scum. If I were trying to advise debears, a relatively (though not super) new player on who to attack, I'd not suggest you, and I'd certainly not say to do so the way he's done. His aggression against you isn't particularly townie but I don't get why you get scum vibes from it. | ||
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