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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On November 14 2012 11:45 Hapahauli wrote: I still want to know where the hell he has been. He's posted 3 times - this is unlike anything in his town games. how will me explaining my irl reasons for my low activity help you with your read on me? i specifically remember you telling me in coaching that you dislike irl excuses and you normally dismiss them as a null tell. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 14 2012 11:50 Blazinghand wrote: Also I'm not voting debears this is not the same debears who in his last newbie game was abnormally excited about reaching a 30 page filter length, and was very very much the centre of attention. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 11:55 Blazinghand wrote: kickstart said this over course of reading the thread just now I think, which is why he didn't make an earlier post? He said in post that he wanted to post it "before school" (presumably earlier). This screams a "wait and see" approach. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On November 14 2012 11:50 thrawn2112 wrote: The fact that he hasn't taken a position is worrying-- but the joking and fluff are characteristic of his play. See NMMXXVIII http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370487¤tpage=17#322 That game is one of the specific ones I'm thinking of in regards to dp's town play. He stays on his targets till he gets a flip, he is sorta.. aggressive.. with his language, especially when people are disagreeing with him. This game he's made extremely questionable votes while not pushing his reads. Town dp reads as the most convicted guy ever and that's not what i'm seeing this game.[/QUOTE] The reason I don't sound convicted is that I literally have no convictions whatsoever right now. I am barely keeping up with the game. I am spending obscene amounts of time reading filters in my other game. Once I have some clue as to the state of the game. I will be busting peoples balls and generally aggressive as per usual. Do you think as scum I couldn't fake some contributions by now? and get all up in your faces about it. The reason I am not is because I care about being right and I have not put enough thought nor analysed enough information to be right about much at all. My strongest read so far was a town read on BH when he was under pressure. But then he claimed JK so I didn;t need to defend him as I was planning to. Like. What you are saying is reasonable. But playing twow games is kicking my arse and I just don;t have the time to play as well as I would like to. Lynching me is a mislynch. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 11:57 thrawn2112 wrote: how will me explaining my irl reasons for my low activity help you with your read on me? i specifically remember you telling me in coaching that you dislike irl excuses and you normally dismiss them as a null tell. I'm genuinely interested 'cause you're like 99% more inactive than anything I've ever seen from one of your town games. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On November 14 2012 11:58 marvellosity wrote: this is not the same debears who in his last newbie game was abnormally excited about reaching a 30 page filter length, and was very very much the centre of attention. oh i meant literally not in germs of willingness | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On November 14 2012 12:00 Hapahauli wrote: I'm genuinely interested 'cause you're like 99% more inactive than anything I've ever seen from one of your town games. made a post last night, got high, watched gsl, passed out, got high, passed out exciting shit, i know | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 12:07 Kickstart wrote: Blazing is right, I clearly stated on page 22 that I am sleeping now and will attempt to post before heading to school later. I wake up and there are 10+ pages to read and I did not have the time to read all that and form a proper post in ~30 minutes (you constantly saying that I post something and then peace-out is a bit annoying because every time I go to class or sleep I have explicitly stated that I was doing so). And to your second question yes I do view that as you and bh working together, that is why I said I would have auto voted you if BH flipped red otherwise would have had to really reevaluate. And I did not say I believe his JK claim???? I said it was a horrible claim and makes him "deadweight" now (3rd time saying this now...). Your logic right now: "I was 100% down with lynching BH... and then he claims jk" "I still don't like his posting before or after the claim " "I would love to flip him just to see" ...and then you vote me for starting a "bandwagon" on a player. Yeah ok. That totally makes sense. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On November 14 2012 10:13 Hapahauli wrote: Looking at debears, there's not much to say other than there's not much substance in his 4-page filter. Lots of short, 1/2 line posts with banter. He jumps on Hopeless really quickly, who's one of the easier targets in the game. He's then pretty quick to jump on iamperfection, and has been pushing that "read" since. As previously stated, his "vote post" looks like an overkill-case. But the thing that really sticks out to me is that he's been tunneling iamperfection for the last few hours yet still has his vote on Hopeless. He's using a lot of strong language against iamperfection (much stronger than against hopeless), and from his filter it looks like iamperfection is his top scumread. At this point he's much more content to push the read on iamperfection than his one on Hopeless, and I see no townie reason why his vote isn't where his mouth is. ##Unvote ##Vote debears This is your post for voting debears. Your reasoning is fine and I get where you are coming from, I just view his actions differently so far. I think debears has been pressuring people and creating discussion. You fault him for hard pushing his read and creating an "over-kill" case, how is that scummy? As I said I would like other people input on how they read you and I do intend to further formulate my opinion based on whether others read you as town/scum/null | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 12:16 Kickstart wrote: This is your post for voting debears. Your reasoning is fine and I get where you are coming from, I just view his actions differently so far. I think debears has been pressuring people and creating discussion. You fault him for hard pushing his read and creating an "over-kill" case, how is that scummy? As I said I would like other people input on how they read you and I do intend to further formulate my opinion based on whether others read you as town/scum/null My suspicions on him are far from just the "overkill" thing. I explicitly BOLD that debears isn't voting for his top scumread. That's pretty damn scummy. What about this do you view "differently?" Yet you ignore everything else and focus on one of the minor points in my case. Also still waiting for your response here: On November 14 2012 12:11 Hapahauli wrote: Your logic right now: "I was 100% down with lynching BH... and then he claims jk" "I still don't like his posting before or after the claim " "I would love to flip him just to see" ...and then you vote me for starting a "bandwagon" on a player. Yeah ok. That totally makes sense. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 12:19 Kickstart wrote: I am down for flipping you and BH at this point. I am not really interesting in arguing with you about it - I find the fact that I was down for voting BH and you, then after him claiming jk just voting for you to be perfectly reasonable. Again I want other people to weigh in though. I don't. Your logic is completely disproportionate. You show every indication of wanting BH dead and are very eager about "flipping" him. You don't trust his claim, don't like his posts, don't like anything about him, then magically twist your vote on me because apparently you don't like a "bandwagon" I started. Yet you sympathize with my logic, yet disagree with it by ignoring all of my emphasized points. It. Makes. No. Sense. And I"m having a very difficult time figuring out if you're just dense about it or you have a mafia motive for all of this. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
and I see we are quickly posting back and forth so I will just reiterate on: On November 14 2012 12:11 Hapahauli wrote: Your logic right now: "I was 100% down with lynching BH... and then he claims jk" "I still don't like his posting before or after the claim " "I would love to flip him just to see" ...and then you vote me for starting a "bandwagon" on a player. Yeah ok. That totally makes sense. Again, I am reading both you and BH as scummy. I was going to vote him and if he flipped red auto vote you, but now that he jk claimed I am just as content to do the opposite - vote you and if you flip red vote him. And the above should do fine in response to BHs snarky comment. My voting has nothing to do with being a man or not, you are overusing that line. I am keeping my vote on Hapa for now  , and if he does get lynched and flips red, I will gladly vote for you immediatly. | ||
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