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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:10 GMT
#741
He's pretty unhelpful and posting lots of oneliners without a lot of content, but that's just literally how the man plays. Clarity or Marv can back me up on this. Not sure what to make about the vote vs attacks thing. He's not on my lynch radar for today presently.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:11 GMT
#742
On November 14 2012 11:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:00 Blazinghand wrote:
I claimed Jailkeeper!

You claimed jailkeeper less than half way through day 1!? The vote count that was just posted had like 4 votes on you. Why did you claim!? Were you really assured of being lynched that early day 1? You must have been acting really scummy to have like everyone against you so quick on day 1. If you were acting that scummy, maybe this is a ploy because who in their right mind claims so freakin early day 1?


I claimed half way through day 1 and we're better off for it. If you think I'm scum, feel free to come at me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:12 GMT
#743
we are not better off for it.

i'm not going to shout at you any more, but i will if you say stuff like that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:13 GMT
#744
On November 14 2012 11:10 Blazinghand wrote:
He's pretty unhelpful and posting lots of oneliners without a lot of content, but that's just literally how the man plays. Clarity or Marv can back me up on this. Not sure what to make about the vote vs attacks thing. He's not on my lynch radar for today presently.


who is, then? your two main reads have basically become town or null reads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:14 GMT
#745
We're not lynching me today, which would have been a definite mislynch. If you disagree with the timing of my excellent claim, I understand. I played poorly and was forced to claim D1 as jailkeeper-- the play that led to the circumstance in which the claim was necessary was definitely bad. But the claim itself was good, just and necessary. Marv we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:17 GMT
#746
On November 14 2012 11:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:10 Blazinghand wrote:
He's pretty unhelpful and posting lots of oneliners without a lot of content, but that's just literally how the man plays. Clarity or Marv can back me up on this. Not sure what to make about the vote vs attacks thing. He's not on my lynch radar for today presently.


who is, then? your two main reads have basically become town or null reads.


Currently Thrawn and Hopeless. It's not really that hopeless isn't active at this moment but that over the course of the first 24 hours he hasn't made any direct attacks-- just asked questions and made mild accusations. I'll have to compare to WLIIA mafia and do some homework to write up a real case. Thrawn for obvious reasons.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:18 GMT
#747
no you're claim is shit and you're wrong.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:19 GMT
#748
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. We can do so with civility and help move the town along, or we can rage incoherently and be a little shit about it. What are your thoughts on which option we should pick, Marv?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 14 2012 02:21 GMT
#749
Easy on the claim stuff guys - it's pointless to argue about something that already happened unless you actually think BH's claim is scummy - and it's too suicidal to be scummy IMO. He could be scum, but it's pretty unlikely.

BH - can I get your thoughts on Debears?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 14 2012 02:21 GMT
#750
I wanna lynch darthpunk. I remember his town play as somewhat aggressive and stubborn, and what I'm seeing from him in this game is completely different from that impression. I still think the whole snb 4 votes early on thing was a little silly and probably had scum behind it.

On November 13 2012 15:56 DarthPunk wrote:
I am just throwing my vote around trying to see what's up. I think I explained both my votes on him adequately maybe you disagree with the reasons and that is fine.

The reason I unvoted S&B the first time was that I voted for Clarity for what I perceived to be an easy jump onto an easy wagon. He gave his explanation, I unvoted and then I re-voted S&B.

You unvoted snb, who you originally voted for because of a dumb reason, in order to vote for clarity who had voted for snb because of a dumb reason?

On November 13 2012 15:56 DarthPunk wrote:I cannot find the townie reasoning behind several things S&B has posted thus far. I cannot reconcile using WIFOM about his scum game as townie behaviour and I do not buy the too scummy to be scum shit.

I am far from certain about him. But if he is town I want him to shape up. I don;t like using FoS's anymore so a vote it is.


Specifically, this is what i'm talking about with dp's tone. This...

On November 13 2012 15:56 DarthPunk wrote:@blazinghand. Guess I am bad.

...is not what I expect from dp. I expect him to be argumentative and to challenge anyone who accuses him of being wrong.

I don't like his votes/unvotes for snb or the explanations for the votes.

His last voting action was an unvote, and the next 8 posts contain mainly fluff and jokes, not much information that's pertinent to the thread.


Summary: He took the easy vote on snb and was wishy washy about it (voting then unvoting then voting then unvoting) because he knows the vote looks bad. After voting the first time, he unvoted then challenged clarity for doing the exact same thing that dp himself did (hasty bandwagon voting for snb) and then he unvoted for a final time and his filter after that point contains no scumhunting or any of his reads/thoughts.

##Vote: Darthpunk

The other people that voted for snb during that time were hapa, clarity, and boson. With boson... the miller claim didn't seem to come at the right time to be a scum fakeclaim. I'd expect fake claims to come along much later after everyone has been given a chance to post/claim. Hapa, I'm wary of. BH made a comment along the lines of "whoever voted for snb is bad or scum," and hapa is definitely not bad. But he as well as clarity continued giving reads and interacting with the thread after the snb stuff, while dp has been wishywashy with his vote and not talked about much of anything else. The snb bandwagon grew so quickly that I think it's very likely that there were scum behind it, and dp looks scummiest out of all of them. There was his original voting/unvoting, not following through with any reads afterwards and having a fluffy filter, and being extremely peaceful and not willing to get in fights. That's the exact opposite of town dp.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:22 GMT
#751
my rage is perfectly coherent.

what's even more infuriating is that you don't understand why you are bad.

any sensible townie would argue his way out of his lynch (3 votes, cmon) and only if necessary, a few hours from deadline, claim if he could absolutely not avoid getting lynched.

Jailkeeper is a very strong role and now you've made it so it cannot protect anybody, plus a confirmed bluesnipe on you, if you are town. Which I'm not even convinced of yet, I just can't bring myself to lynch the claim day 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:23 GMT
#752
See, there's a reasonable critique of my claim! No swear words, and well thought out. I see that we disagree, and we'll have to agree to disagree. We can discuss it in the post-game rather than clogging up the thread with it. Is that okay?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:24 GMT
#753
i'm not agreeing to anything with you. the fact you disagree is mindboggling to me and i find it scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:25 GMT
#754
If you're saying, btw, "blazinghand's claim makes no sense and is scummy" that's a perfectly fine (though wrong) thing to say and we should discuss it now. But if you're saying "blazinghand's claim was bad, even though he is town, so I want to beret him for it, or use constructive criticism to help him improve", I disagree, but it's not useful to discuss it now. So yeah just let me know if you think it's a scummy play, rather than just saying "blazinghand is bad" or whatever and we have something to talk about. How about for now, though, we turn our attention to thrawn?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:26 GMT
#755
i find the fact you maintain your claim was a good play scummy, yes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:26 GMT
#756
The fact that I disagree should not be any more mind-boggling than the fact I made the claim in the first place. After all, if I thought it was a bad time to claim, I would have not claimed, right? Given that I did claim, I *must* have thought it a good time to claim. So I don't see how my disagreement with you is any more mind-boggling than the claim itself.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 14 2012 02:26 GMT
#757
Holy hell where have you been Thrawn?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 14 2012 02:27 GMT
#758
On November 14 2012 11:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 14 2012 11:00 Blazinghand wrote:
I claimed Jailkeeper!

You claimed jailkeeper less than half way through day 1!? The vote count that was just posted had like 4 votes on you. Why did you claim!? Were you really assured of being lynched that early day 1? You must have been acting really scummy to have like everyone against you so quick on day 1. If you were acting that scummy, maybe this is a ploy because who in their right mind claims so freakin early day 1?


I claimed half way through day 1 and we're better off for it. If you think I'm scum, feel free to come at me.

I'll come at you if I think you're scum. Honestly after WLIIA, I'm skeptical of all blue claims. I don't know if I'll ever take a blue claim at face value again. I'll make my judgment based on your play.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 14 2012 02:28 GMT
#759
the fact you claimed is mindboggling to me also, i believe that was implied.

if this game was purely marv-world i'd flip you right now out of spite.

In essence, your claim does not in any way match up to the esteem I generally hold your town play in.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 14 2012 02:31 GMT
#760
Are we arguing about my claim here, or are we arguing about votecounts in GSL III? Or is this made up? Because I really don't get how you're so "mad" at me. Everyone else managed to move on or critique the play from the "is he scum" perspective, not the "I'm gonna pretend to be mad so I have an excuse not to contribute" perspective. In fact, the marv I know is pretty able to move on and focus on the task at hand. Let's talk about thrawn and see what we have to say about his case. No more hiding from giving reads by being "mad" please.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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