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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 20 2012 14:51 GMT
#3321
@ Clarity

Can I ask you to elaborate on your slight town read on me ? I'm saying slight town because I feel like I'm in between a town and a neutral read. A short post with your main points should be enough.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 14:57 GMT
#3322
Your play just seems super similar to your two last games as town.

I don't see a scum djo jumping on blazing in that situation
I don't see a scum djo being so into the setup speculation. Generally I'd call stuff like that scummy but you really seemed like you wanted to figure shit out, and you did. The going overboard thing is your meta.
I don't see scum anyone suggesting a mass roleclaim plan like you did.

Those are my main points I guess. You're the same as the last two games, and you were town in those.
I haven't had a moment of "yeah he's clearly town because of this", that's why my read is so slight.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 15:08 GMT
#3323
On November 20 2012 23:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Your play just seems super similar to your two last games as town.

I don't see a scum djo jumping on blazing in that situation
I don't see a scum djo being so into the setup speculation. Generally I'd call stuff like that scummy but you really seemed like you wanted to figure shit out, and you did. The going overboard thing is your meta.
I don't see scum anyone suggesting a mass roleclaim plan like you did.

Those are my main points I guess. You're the same as the last two games, and you were town in those.
I haven't had a moment of "yeah he's clearly town because of this", that's why my read is so slight.

you know s&b suggested a mass role claim right
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:11 GMT
#3324
I certainly don't remember him doing so. Fairly sure that was djo. Let me check.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 15:12 GMT
#3325
anywho clarity what do you think of s&b's point here for day 1

- he's been asking a lot of questions, but often without sharing his own positions or thoughts until being pushed

i know you said you ask those questions to elicit a response but i looked through your filter and you took almost 0 hard positions at all. Worrisome for obvious reasons but if you look at the shitstroms that happened on day 1 your only hard stances came at the end of the day when you said lynching cross and hapa were stupid.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#3326
On November 19 2012 08:04 strongandbig wrote:
okay listen up guys

I thought of this on the way back from work.

If we massclaim, it will instantly confirm half of the town.

The scum will have to either claim a blue role, or claim VT.

We look at the blue roles that get claimed, we back out the DCTVetc, and we calculate "for this set of blue roles, how many VTs should there be"

Then there will either be too many or too few VT claims. If there's too many, all the blues are confirmed. If there's too few, all the VTs are confirmed and one of the blues is scum.

sup now blazingasshole

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#3327
On November 19 2012 08:04 strongandbig wrote:
okay listen up guys

I thought of this on the way back from work.

If we massclaim, it will instantly confirm half of the town.

The scum will have to either claim a blue role, or claim VT.

We look at the blue roles that get claimed, we back out the DCTVetc, and we calculate "for this set of blue roles, how many VTs should there be"

Then there will either be too many or too few VT claims. If there's too many, all the blues are confirmed. If there's too few, all the VTs are confirmed and one of the blues is scum.

sup now blazingasshole


Ah, this. It's different though because it's Djo who suggested this, snb is simply taking the credit.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:16 GMT
#3328
I did take a hard position on day 1, namely darth. I later agreed with marv's case on zbo and went there, and stayed there.
I would've stayed on darth if people were interested in lynching him day 1, but they weren't.

snb didn't ask questions day 1 at all. He gave "opinions" on stuff, but they boiled down to "you're dumb" or "I (dis)agree with this"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:20 GMT
#3329
Yeah, me trying to stop people from jumping on cross and hapa looked bad, but realize that I wasn't defending THEM, I was trying to stop last minute shenanigans. My entire play during the last hour or two on day 1 was trying to get us organized rather than creating chaos.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:27 GMT
#3330
Gonna do groceries be back in 30 ish
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 15:30 GMT
#3331
im talking more about the major points of the thread though day 1

- The vt slip by S&B= You voted for it but didn't really take a hard position just asked for an explanation

- Bh wierd play in the beginning= Not much at all

-hapa's attack of me- Not much at all

-Hapa's attack on debars- You slightly considered voting him but not much of your own reasons why
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 15:37 GMT
#3332
like i think looking back at it if you look at what we know now the people that were fighting it out the most have been town.

BH, Marv, Debars and myself were all right in there getting our hands dirty you were just kind of there on day1 if you know what i mean.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:54 GMT
#3333
Yeah I get it. Let me try to explain my reasoning as best as I remember:

snb vt slip: I voted for him to pressure and to explain. He kind of explained but the explanation was terrible. I hit a point where I realized my vote was doing nothing

bh: the claim was dumb regardless of alignment, I said it was dumb regardless of alignment. I didn't want everyone to dwell on it for too long since lynching a day 1 blue claim is bad unless there's a counter claim, I stand by this.

hapa's attack on you I don't even remember, I'd have to look back, I will after this post.

hapa's attack on debears (is the debars thing some sort of inside joke?), I don't think I ever considered voting hapa day 1, the only thing that stood out was him trying to say the snb vt claim and cheese vt claim were alike.
Debears's case on hapa was complete OMGUS, so I commented on it when the post went up.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 15:59 GMT
#3334
You mean this?
On November 14 2012 02:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 02:41 iamperfection wrote:
I changed my mind deal with it bro. When I get home I might do it again. does that make me scum? If so continue if not don't waste my time


Yes I think it makes you scum. It's not a coherent thought process. Look at how much you rationalize your town read on Z-Boson from that claim:

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
zbos explained it in his post would have been very risky in my view.

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.


Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away.

Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise.

its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so.


...then you abandon all of this because of the "iamperfection rule" or some shit like that?

I call BS.


Yeah I recall seeing that and agreeing with marv, doing a complete 180 that early into day 1 is not scum like.
No one really talked about it afterwards so there was no point to comment on it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 16:03 GMT
#3335
On November 21 2012 00:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
You mean this?
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 02:45 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 14 2012 02:41 iamperfection wrote:
I changed my mind deal with it bro. When I get home I might do it again. does that make me scum? If so continue if not don't waste my time


Yes I think it makes you scum. It's not a coherent thought process. Look at how much you rationalize your town read on Z-Boson from that claim:

On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.

On November 13 2012 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
zbos explained it in his post would have been very risky in my view.

On November 13 2012 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.


Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away.

Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise.

its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so.


...then you abandon all of this because of the "iamperfection rule" or some shit like that?

I call BS.


Yeah I recall seeing that and agreeing with marv, doing a complete 180 that early into day 1 is not scum like.
No one really talked about it afterwards so there was no point to comment on it.

not really just that he spent a good amount of time trying to push a lynch on me. A grave mistake in my eyes . right hapa?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 20 2012 16:05 GMT
#3336
##unvote
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 16:05 GMT
#3337
also the getting the name's wrong on purpose is my thing
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 20 2012 16:06 GMT
#3338
On November 21 2012 01:05 Blazinghand wrote:
##unvote

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 20 2012 16:09 GMT
#3339
I don't get names wrong on purpose I'm just an idiot sometimes. Blazing why did you unvote snb?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 20 2012 16:12 GMT
#3340
hey so i should be here for like half an hour
then gone for a while
then back



I like that darthpunk actually did something, that was refreshing. and it looks like the aggro darthpunk i remember from back when.


I don't have enough time to read one of you monster-filter-ers so I decided I'm going to give kickstart a close look and see what comes up
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