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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 07 2012 23:19 sylverfyre wrote: I'll also point out you aren't flaming anyone else for being sure about Clarity. Why me? I was posting about him early, but one of the last ones to vote because I wasn't sure and your arguments don't make sense to me. Why you ? You are the scummiest player alive to begin with Alsn is 100% confirmed blue in my eyes. I would like everybody to accept this as a fact... Obzy and daoud are very likely to be town considering the way they reacted to Cheese claim, even if it was after the fact. I really like how they directly went for Clarity and his fake "PM to marv". As far as I know, only you and Rad believed in this PM. I know daoud town meta and he shows his usual paranoia. Daoud has accused me of bussing my partner and wants to go after me if Clarity flips green. I don't think any mafia player would imagine such bullshit  Obzy has made a very good case against Clarity while Clarity case against Obzy was totally half-assed. The way Clarity attacked Obzy hints very strongly at a town Obzy. Not to mention the incredible emotional post he gave us. Rad hard-defense of Clarity was motivated because of his sympathy for Clarity which is a townie feeling. For example, your play shows apathy. So my list of players is like, from the most townie to most scummy: Alsn Obzy Daoud Rad Sylverfyre I hope for you that you are the roleblocker  | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 08 2012 00:39 sylverfyre wrote: No I'm not accusing you to be scum. I'm saying you have massive confirmation bias about me. Clarity was saying the same thing... | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
I need to work, better than I did yesterday - yesterday I just defended the shit out of myself and neglected work. Today I need to focus, but I'll try to read and get caught up slowly as well. I have meetings set up from 2:30-5:30 EST today but I'll try to get back and truly focus on everything at 6:30. I'm sure I will have some questions for clarity at some point. I'll probably have to sheep someone tonight but will try my hardest to come to my own conclusion before the lynch. | ||
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sylverfyre
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sylverfyre
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 07 2012 23:54 Alsn wrote: I gotta leave for those two hours I was talking about pretty soon. But I'd like to point out that there's a pretty easy way to proceed once Clarity flips red. Djod blocks someone he thinks is the last scum(and tells us, last minute I think is best, since he could theoretically be blocking a town who got attacked, although I'd say the chances of that are slim to none), if Djod or someone else dies, whoever Djod blocked is guaranteed to be town. If no one dies, we have less information, but we have a prime lynch candidate because even if the last scum "faked" not killing anyone, we get another chance at having Djod block is top scum read the next night, and so on, until we find the real scum. @ Alsn No, a mafia roleblocker would block and kill me. I've already asked marv about it... So if sylverfyre is mafia RB, he wouldn't be confirmed even if I die while saying he is in jail I think it's possible for us to have 2 mafia RB by the way. Let's not discard any possibility. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Rad
United States935 Posts
Is there a link to 100% djo partner then if clarity flips blue? Alsn could be second cop with him, and probably is since there are no more blue claims. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 08 2012 00:46 sylverfyre wrote: Also Djo, if you're secretly a scum roleblocker and lucked out that there is no jailkeeper and only 1 power role, I WILL hate you for this play. @ Sylverfyre Don't make me laugh, I'm going to achieve 20 pages filter when you have 5 and I would be the scum. I told you that Alsn and me share the same secret "extra information" that you were asking me for. We are both 100% confirmed to each other. The fact that Clarity could not write a proper case against Obzy is a very strong proof that Obzy is town. Mafia writes good cases when they bus, but it's way more difficult for them when they have to frame. On top of that, Obzy shows a very likely behavior for a first time player as VT. I would also say that he deserves his victory if his emotional post was fake. @ OnbzyOnce again, congrats for your analysis on Clarity According to me, the remaining scum is among Rad, daoud and you. You look the worst among these 3 so you spend your night in my jail. That is if you are not a mafia roleblocker... | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 08 2012 00:44 sylverfyre wrote: I believe Clarity's scum for my own reasons. Your reasons suck. Forcing out a claim -> counterclaim sucked, though it 100% confirms that Clarity is scum. Why should we believe you about any of your other scum reads? What if we rely on Alsn at night, but the person he investigates is framed because you're wrong about me? You've completely turned the game into power roles vs. power roles, us vanilla townies have no power right now. We have to follow our blues now. @ sylverfyre Yeah, sure. Thank you for your support. I don't know if we would have been able to lynch Clarity today without you. Truth being told, I don't feel like I've committed enough for this lynch. I'll give you the town credit that you deserve when Clarity flips red. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
DISCLAIMER - A Mafia RoleBlocker would kill me even if I target him Conclusion => I cannot confirm anyone with my power | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I would worry about this kind of shit after the flip | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
No, I need to worry about it now. I get the benefits of if clarity flipped red, but I need to think about the case of him flipping blue, and see if there's a better candidate to lynch based on information given from the flip. At this point, I don't think it's a trust issue anymore, it's probably best to lynch whoever gives us the best scenario afterwards, so thinking about the scenarios is a good idea. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Compare the quality of the claims from Alsn and me and the claim from Clarity. Please note that Clarity is AWOL. Don't be stupid, don't waste your time. By the way, you are very close to find the key for the "extra information" which Alsn and me are sharing. Unfortunately, we cannot really disclose it ^^ Anyway, Alsn and me are confirming each other, so we must be the scumteam which you are looking for if Clarity flips blue. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
If your vote is not properly formatted it might not be counted. Everyone is required to vote. Clarity_nl (5) - da0ud, Djodref, Obzy, Alsn, sylverfyre, Obzy (0) - sylverfyre (0) - Alsn (0) - Djodref (0) - Not Voting - (2) - Rad, Clarity_nl Currently, Clarity_nl is set to be lynched! If you see that your vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 8 hours and 30 minutes left to vote! Deadline is at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Going to wake up with red blood spilling on the floor GG Clarity, sorry for the imb4 counter-claim but the cases should have been enough I think... Long life to free porn ! | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Association case incoming after the lynch ^^ | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
Oh, that's unfortunate about the JK roleblock thing. Hopefully either Clarity is the roleblocker or there isn't a roleblocker(since he said he was roleblocked in order to get out of having to share a cop read, it might mean that he wanted to be able to roleblock people in order to keep his story straight if we somehow didn't lynch him). | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On November 08 2012 00:58 Djodref wrote: @ Sylverfyre Don't make me laugh, I'm going to achieve 20 pages filter when you have 5 and I would be the scum. I told you that Alsn and me share the same secret "extra information" that you were asking me for. We are both 100% confirmed to each other. The fact that Clarity could not write a proper case against Obzy is a very strong proof that Obzy is town. Mafia writes good cases when they bus, but it's way more difficult for them when they have to frame. On top of that, Obzy shows a very likely behavior for a first time player as VT. I would also say that he deserves his victory if his emotional post was fake. @ OnbzyOnce again, congrats for your analysis on Clarity According to me, the remaining scum is among Rad, daoud and you. You look the worst among these 3 so you spend your night in my jail. That is if you are not a mafia roleblocker... A TWENTY PAGE FILTER IS RIDICULOUS. Does anyone in the Acme mafia game have a 20 page filter? I looked at a bunch of them. Most active players have around 5 pages. The most active players have 8 and 9 page filters. It's night 2 over there. BTW, they also are a 13 player game and have 20 less pages than we do. You post like a madman. I think you're right about Clarity, but I also think you're crazy and full of confirmation bias. | ||
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